/tg/Station 13

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Please define "treated badly", "go batshit", and "rampage". Does one or two jackasses permit a silicon to plasmaflooddoorshock? Does a significant fraction of the crew being jackasses permit such? Does a majority of the crew being jackasses permit such? And on a paralle...

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Did the captain, at any point, indicate that he didn't want the soap taken? If not, I can't see a drone as being at fault for using something that wasn't being used. If using something in somebody's workplace/quarters that's sitting untouched is considered a breach of KEEPER law one, then they're al...

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What is the most difficult part of setting up events? Predicting and guiding player behavior. Almost all really good events share the common element of "And then the players took it and made it great", and the trick to eventing is to provide a framework that the players can play off of to...

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There's no admin with the ckey grayrachnid on /tg/station, and we don't ban for bigotry. You most likely got banned on a server that didn't properly replace the appeals URL for the ban message, and were erroneously directed here. E: A quick google search indicates that grayrachnid appears to be a yo...

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There's also the people who hate it, and will bitch your ear off for half an hour over some admin hitting a button that made them lose their greentext. And the people who see it happen once and won't stop asking for it to happen again. And the people who'll complain about how they never get to be pa...

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I wish the two headmins involved in making this decision would step forward and answer concerns and questions in the thread. It's really embarrassing for the community as a whole to see HG lock his announcement thread on the issue and then for both of them to drop of the face of the earth and just ...

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I asked HG in #adminbus, he said proper response for an admin is to issue a "Cut that shit out", not to just jump to banning.

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Traitor cyborgs who haven't yet scrambled their codes, differing interpretations of a vague lawset, lawsets that specify different behavior for the AI and borgs, and cutting lawsync and changing just the borg's laws can all create a situation where the cyborg is acting "rogue" and the AI h...

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Looks legit to me. Lifting now.

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There's a lockdown button. There is ALSO an unlock button. The AI can use the unlock button on locked borgs slaved to it.

I question the viability of the lockdown button.

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Wait, since when was "You'll get antagbanned if you're clearly just here to fish for antag" NOT policy?

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Why isn't it an option?

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An0n3, did you or the handling admin check prints on the mop after it vanished from your PDA tracker?

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BlessedHeretic:
How do you propose that arming up should be enforced? Under what circumstances should a 'min PM someone over their equipment?

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The issue is that if people keep citing ASIMOV by Asimov, other people WILL come to think that Asimov's interpretation is fair game, with all the grief it allows. And that'll lead to banning. angry appealing, drama, and an unnecessary headache for everyone.

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>Logic isn't really tied to anything. It just exists. The issue is that if people keep citing ASIMOV by Asimov, other people WILL come to think that Asimov's interpretation is fair game, with all the grief it allows. And that'll lead to banning. angry appealing, drama, and an unnecessary headache f...

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>The psychologist said, "If a modified robot were to drop a heavy weight upon a human being, he would not be breaking the First Law, if he did so with the knowledge that his strength and reaction speed would be sufficient to snatch the weight away before it struck the man. However once the wei...

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>If it was a heuristic intelligence it would've had to learn everything it knows, including its laws, through experience and teaching rather than being programmed like Malkevin suggests or having things instantiated for it logically like I suggest. If someone added a Law 4 to it it would have to go...

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>So the AI should have to beat a few humans to death or dissect some before it knows what they are? Then it can start protecting them. "Oh whoops humans die when you put them in space without a suit. Good thing I know that now." BREAKING NEWS AI PLAYERS NOT ALLOWED TO KNOW ANYTHING AT ROU...

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>If it's truly "intelligent", it will evaluate things via a series of logic proofs and truth tables instead of code. If it's truly intelligent, it's going to be nearly exclusively using heuristics. >By the order in which the AI is forced to instantiate all humans as things it must protect...

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I don't see any reason not to punish people who take sexual actions at other players expense.
I also see no manner in which permitting "me humps XXXX" or "say FUCK THAT PUSSY HARD" would improve the game experience or server culture.

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Why would we separate them? Shouldn't the incident be considered as the sum of the parts? Also, I'm clearly failing to understand your meaning, because "I think the former isn't worth talking about" and "Ruining other people's fun for your own fun is textbook dickery." seem contr...

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>$meatsack = target >If $meatsack EQUALS $def.human >(i.e. the text book definition of human) AAAAAAA YOU'RE COMPARING WHAT LOOKS LIKE A POINTER TO WHAT DOESN'T AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA THERE'S A COMMENT THAT'S NOT COMMENTED AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA OH GOD MY COMPSCI SENSIBILITIES AAAAAAAAAAA...

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Then go play with your friend on the other server, obviously.

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>Actually, if we look in Asimov stories
Again, those are NOT policy.

E: Green'd the text at Malk's request

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StickyMayhem, I have to ask.
Why would you spawn a singulo in a crowded area?
What sort of event was it you were running?
And if you spawned it based on some sold item, why would it be acceptable for the presumably non-antag player to request/trigger the spawn somewhere populated?

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>Here's a simple fact that shows that people prefer highpop anyway.
That would only be true if the servers were completely identical aside from mean population. They are not, so player preference cannot solely be attributed to mean population.

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He's also assuming that ASIMOV by Issac Asimov is server policy.

It's not. Hell, in Asimov's books the robots do things that would be considered breach of laws in SS13. SS13 ASIMOV and Asimov ASIMOV are two different things, really.

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Saegrimr wrote:As the chaplain, you're the only one with access to use the button to turn it on.

jakeinmn wrote:a seemily suspicious lawyer comes into my office and goes into my cremitorium.

Their statement implies the lawyer had chapel access. And thus crematorium ignition access.

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Please reference the Pasikonik Doctrine for why your complaint is going to be disregarded.

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Please use the template.

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>at what point do people decide that finally there are enough people unhappy and who exactly will decide that It's called "voting in an election". If people don't like them, they'll vote for someone else and attempt to convince others to do likewise. Assuming electing headmins by player vo...

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I see no reason to have any sort of term limit. If someone's doing a good job, we want to KEEP them doing a good job. If someone's not, they should be pointed to by the other 'mins and announced as such, and then not re-elected. I'd rather not have to deal with fresh heads with fresh "OHH LEMME...

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An automated 1 week job ban for rolling an important job, checking for antag and suiciding when you didn't get it? I know some people would just choose to take the ban just have a roll at that sweet engi/atmos/scientist/etc. antag. Great idea! By what algorithm do we decide if somebody was checking...

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It's got the current headmins, so I assumed it to be accurate. Apparently it was just partially updated.

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And? Why do you think he's asking for that?

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We should decide on some procedure for removing and replacing a headmin if need arises, as well as a way to confirm that need has arisen.

Not saying it's going to happen, but an ounce of prevention ect ect.

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Then the wiki's list-o-mins needs updating, it still lists you as such.

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Given the new crop of headmins, what's to become of the deputy heads, namely Pandar's being Head of Robutts, Ely's being Head of Bans, and TBM's being Head of Trialmin Stuff?

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I'm inclined to agree with CreationPro and say I dont' see any reason to lift this at the moment, but if you play on some other server for a couple months and can get them to vouch that you're a reasonable player, I'd be fine lifting it.

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>I decide to do what any clowns wet dream is and go fuck with the brig, because shitcurity. Did you have any evidence of shitcurity in-round at the time? >I scream over radio "HELP, THE HOS IS SEXUALLY HARASSING ME!" when he says to me in game, "That's it, I was just going to brig you...

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Ban database is acting up.

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Ban database is currently acting up.

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Unbanned.

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What I want is some proof that you have indeed gotten the message, such as putting what IC in OOC means in your own words so I know you understand what you did wrong.

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Your exact words during the second offense were [18:23:32]OOC: Madison Cooper/Bragdolior9000 : this is great. they just got thrashed [18:24:06]OOC: Madison Cooper/Bragdolior9000 : No. I died and someone got trapped in the same department as me and called for help [18:24:11]OOC: Madison Cooper/Bragdo...

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The combination of the two is only a problem insofar as the first is required to make any usage of the second, and the second's where the issue comes from. You also need power to use telesci, but we don't label the APC as part of the problem. Being able to telesci into/out of places like the AI core...

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We're actually looking at TWO issues: 1: Is the use of an external utility for telesci calculations metagaming? 2: Is knowing the coordinate locations of everything on the maps metagaming? The first is mostly a moot point because telesci math is too complex to perform in your head and there's no in-...

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Looking over the provided logs, Tedward1337 came off as very hostile and accusatory for no apparent reason in the exchange of messages. Additionally, demanding answers from a player DURING a tense situation is just horribly shitty to do. I'd sure as hell not be able to effectively do anything while ...

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I must object to this existing, I don't want players admins to try to get listed here and clog up or obfuscate ahelp/pray rounds in the process.
Having it private and 'mins only is would be bad enough, having it be given a spotlight is just begging for trouble.

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