/tg/Station 13

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Please no. First of all, fridge is for MDs. Secondly, chemistry uses both windows all the time.

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"Okay we won't borg him AI he'll spend the rest of his days in perma"

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There is literally no point in forced borgification. If player doesn't want to be borged, they will just ghost somewhere in the process. If they do want, it's voluntary and AI doesn't care.

Where's the problem again?

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Just going to say again, the idea behind the chair is only the person strapped into it can choose to have their brain sucked out. If sec wants to force borg they'd have to do it the hard way Security should still choose the punishment and they can escort prisoner to robotics if they choose borgific...

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Seriously. You either offer them borgification and then it's voluntary or you just leave them in perma/prison transfer them. Why would you borg someone who doesn't want to be borged? It's just a waste of metal.

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and? And I can produce 20 drone shells, hide them somewhere with supplies and become an engineer with 20 lives. The Availability of the trigger is irrelevant. Then I encourage you to place a facehugger in every room. your argument was that they should have one, when they already do. k Returning bac...

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Well if its an engineer and he goes engiborg that's not really that bad. Not really. If you have everything on never (or low or whatever) and a borg slot on high and you aren't gonna get it, you will just get RNG job, engineering might not be what you wanted. Not sure why people don't have "be...

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And you can produce them by dozens, as opposed to golem runes which require plasma and extensive breeding.

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Honestly, drones should require someone inside the round to trigger them for them to accept ghosts, like pAIs or golems. I've no idea why any ghost can just get into one at any time with no limitations. They are also dirt cheap and easy to produce, I often see robotics print out a dozen shells.

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Add windows between that and robotics and it looks pretty good then.

Not sure why walls and rwalls are all mixed up.

You forgot borg chargers as well!

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I wonder if chem nades are.

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Seems like a resprited shotgun to me

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Sure, it's not like antagonists want their victim to shut up more than anything except may be dying.

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How the hell does explosion evaporate your items and doesn't kill you, anyway?

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Stun or put into crit are the only options, really. I guess there's stamina damage, but who the hell uses disablers anyway. I'm not really interested in getting into the bullshit that sec should just throw up their hands at a window either. I am. You're using lasers against petty criminals because A...

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1. Lack of a stun weapon - revs and traitors especially. Simply useless. There might be a super special case where you run out of ALL stun weaponry as security and still keep going, but in that case you are probably fine with putting whoever it is you are shooting into critical or just killing them...

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Well, malf AI needs an overhaul, I know that much.

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This would encourage people with lethal guns to neutralize their target and give them one final chance of surrender (attention attention, highly encouraged arr pee -possibilities detected!). They would be down for cuffing or for a "SURRENDER NOW!" shout, and they couldn't just get up and ...

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this is a game about paranoia oh boy There is a difference in having in game relationships and in game sex relationships. It's kind of annoying when I need acid for the machines in Robotics, and I go to chemistry and wait an hour only to find out that the chemist and an assistant decided to go fuck...

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oranges wrote:I will not revert because the other changes are very good

Look at the values used before

Put them in

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That's actually a cool idea, but it will need some balancing.

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I don't know how much it is different from our current one, but I believe it's mostly just recipes?

I think we need something different, something that involves experimentation and not just mixing infinite chems over and over again.

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The ones that were there before change, for one.

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In the beginning of the thread a talked about what exactly I like about Asimov robots. I never suggested to just rip them off, but certain parts of that fit quite nicely into the game in my opinion and I will never accept "if it's from this author it is wrong no matter what" attitude. If y...

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Saintish wrote:Why the fuck does the Syndicate need Chucklefuck McGreyshirt dead?

Because they owe them money, because they used to work for them and went rogue, because they know too much, etc.

Heads are already lacking in popularity. Making assistants less likely to be targets is the last thing that we need.

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Why does it matter where logic comes from? The only thing that matters is whether it's logical or not. I think that Asimov's interpretation is logical enough. Also, your point yet again has no relevance in the discussion, since we're discussing proposed changes to lawset that don't happen in game, s...

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Aurx wrote:SS13 ASIMOV IS NOT BLINDLY SLAVED TO ISSAC ASIMOV STOP QUOTING HIM

Logic isn't really tied to anything. It just exists.

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You pick one sentence, then stop reading. I hope you are only pretending to be retarded. Just because I don't quote the whole thing doesn't mean I don't read it. I don't include the rest because it doesn't change anything. AI can do things that aren't assisting the crew. There is nothing in your la...

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I guess the question is at what point are you allowed to arm up and how do you deal with antagonists trying to murder you.

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I'm yet to see you change your mind about anything, so I guess I'll save my breathe. Points were made, but I guess they're too self-centered.

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Energy relay gives 2 illegal tech I think. Not wormhole for sure, that's just 3 blue-space.

It is stupid though.

However, getting illegal tech through telesci is a matter of minutes. About five minutes to set it all up with crystals and capacitors, about a minute to calculate and get stuff.

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Frankly I don't understand how you can set up two different servers, and map is a HUGE deal in SS13, much more than in other games, and expect 50/50 ratio out of it. Seriously, make them the same at least temporarily. Even if just to test what that will do. Otherwise, don't expect things to improve....

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Random gibs are never a good idea.

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That's like saying if you shoot a gun it's not directly your fault anyone dies; the bullet just traveled to them on its own! That's exactly what I'm saying. That's why the clause is there. Inaction clause forces borgs to have to assist antags from getting dunked more than it does help people escape...

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I think the thing that could attract people to server 2 (whatever its called these days, maybe server 1) is a slightly different ruleset which is more focused on roleplay, more strict with griefing and murder, so a bit more similar to bay. The badger regulars would probably like it, but I am not su...

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Well, whenever someone's disagreeing with whatever, there's bound to be a conflict. It's just natural. I don't consider it much of a problem. Worse is the fact that many people don't give their reasoning, so their feedback is essentially useless, but then that's their own fault for not providing fee...

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I don't understand how people can be so attached to one station layout that they refuse to play anywhere else. That doesn't give you the right to ignore opinions like that, now does it? Hence why I suggested we try putting Boxstation on both servers for a week or two and see what the population num...

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1.3.1 - Silicons may choose whether to follow or enforce Space Law from moment to moment unless on a relevant lawset and/or given relevant orders. Oh, by the way, can I order silicons to stop enforcing Space Law? Seems that way. IMO Law 1 instantiates what a human is because it's the first law to s...

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So what should perfect feedback thread look like?

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Intigracy wrote:Why was there a lockdown added that bolts you in.
Who thought this was a good idea?

Because don't take that shiny gun at roundstart, you powergaming jackass, its value is in its unruined beauty.

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But black gloves look better than silly yellow ones.

And sometimes it is better to show your face and not be the faceless goon without a personality, but lots of various protection.

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It's mildly annoying to everyone else when you slap the cuffs on someone and they immediately break immersions by saying "FUCK THIS", or somesuch, and going catatonic. I never understood this attitude. They basically apply capital punishment to themselves (even worse, they cannot break ou...

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Inspector flies away in 2 minutes: the game mode

Don't get me wrong, it sounds great. I would love to see something like that, but one person deciding the result of the round and when exactly does it end? I don't think that's gonna be possible.

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assisting someone who has been known to cause harm in many cases is legitimately stupid. sillicons are not blithering idiots, they can connect 2+2. if some guy has murdered someone and is now asking for access to a door while holding a bloody stunbaton, you are fully within your rights to not open ...

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Wait, you can activate chem implants yourself? I thought they were only activatable from prison management console.

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Intigracy wrote:Also if you have a screwdriver in one hand and glass in the other, click the grille with the glass, pageup to switch to screwdriver and click it real fast. There, it's not going to move.

But it's not instant any more, it takes some time.

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>Here's a simple fact that shows that people prefer highpop anyway. That would only be true if the servers were completely identical aside from mean population. They are not, so player preference cannot solely be attributed to mean population. So? My point is, if people prefer server one even when ...

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>Actually, if we look in Asimov stories Again, those are NOT policy. I never said it was Not to mention that, again, in this case policy says absolutely the same (I'm pretty sure that you can prioritize orders from command staff, for example). Also, like I just said, it makes a lot of sense in prac...

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If you see a proper escalation to violence happening as a borg you are obligated to at least take interest. Instead of being a cybernetic cartoon character and thinking "they must weally WUV each other" and drooling oil all the way down the hallway. The question was: I'm not allowed to kn...

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Well, even under current policy I would think that denying access because "people in that department are evil and might beat this person up for asking me to open the door" is bullshit.

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