Isane wrote:Wait wait wait. So basically Paprika and a few others started crying so hard about a playerbase vote, that they actually managed to convince themselves and others that there actually was a playerbase vote going on, despite there not being one?
Like, those wall of texts Paprika typed up, complaining about "this current vote" and such, are all basically moot, and complaining for the sake of complaining?
Nah, everyone here is deluded or uninformed.
I said it once and I'll say it again.
Scaredy quite literally said he was going to run a public, PLAYER BASE VOTE on the community meeting last sunday.
I even told you this was the case.
Yet you're saying this is not an issue and I'm making it up.
Jesus christ. Ask anyone that was there in the IRC and they'll tell you that's what Scaredy was planning on. The same thing as last year.
I'm actually getting tired of this amount of stupidity.
YES, the current player poll on the server wasn't scaredy's idea, someone else threw that up or something.
YES, scaredy STILL PLANS on doing a playerbase vote. He even said he was going to ask for players to send him votes via AHELP.
READ THE IRC LOGS. STAY INFORMED. STOP MAKING YOURSELVES LOOK LIKE JACKASSES AND HAVING ME WASTE MY TIME.
bandit wrote:Bullshit. Please provide proof that 90% of the playerbase is this terrible, instead of using it as a buzzword to dismiss anyone who disagrees with you. If you really hold that much contempt for 90% of the playerbase, I'm surprised you can even stomach to play here. I'm sure you think you're naturally part of the 10%, too.
BUT I AM PART OF THAT 10%. I'M HERE, SO ARE YOU. THE LARGE PART OF THE PLAYER BASE IS NOT AND THEY'RE JUST ON THE SERVER TO PLAY THE GAME. This is just how it is, denying that makes -you- look like a fucking asshole.
The problem with that lies in the fact that these same people who rarely go to the forums outside of FNR are going to be the ones voting in the player poll too. They're uninformed and are just going to vote for who they like the best. Why they like them is completely irrelevant 90% of the time because they're not involved in admin politics, this thread, or anything like that. They will literally just not vote for someone because they handled a ban wrong or something once. That's not who we want picking a few people that will handle admin-based decisions that won't really necessarily impact the playerbase in a HUGE HUGE way anyway.
I DON'T hold the playerbase in any sort of contempt. That's where you're wrong. I'm saying that they lack the knowledge to make an informed vote in this case and that's not calling them dumb or stupid, I'm saying that it's a wasted vote and you know it. The people who are informed will be VASTLY overshadowed by these people. Maybe it's not huge, maybe we don't have a 10,000 pop player base, but it's significant enough to shit up the poll and ruin the headmin process entirely.
Nobody will respect headmins that aren't chosen fairly, by people who are informed. Even if erro was chosen by the adminbus legitimately I would have literally no choice but to take him seriously. If admins want erro leading them and making decisions or whoever the fuck, that's what they want and there's obviously a reason for that. This is hypothetical of course, but that's why it matters for admins to choose the headmins and not players. Not only will the headmin elections be more signficant and the votes hold a TON more weight, but it'll help boost the headmins to know that the other ADMINS wanted them there.
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