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[brotemis] Gannymede/ boko haram Permaban appeal
Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2014 6:44 am
by gannymede
Byond account and character name: Gannymede / Boko Haram
Banning admin: brotemis
Ban reason and length: Permaban for dragging a body around the station. The shuttle was nearly arrived and the station was littered with bodies, I started dragging one around and the admin said I was killbaiting. I don't think this is worthy of a permaban.
Re: [brotemis] Gannymede/ boko haram Permaban appeal
Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2014 4:07 pm
by Brotemis
If you're going to make an appeal, post the actual ban reason rather than what your opinion of the ban is. Either way, I'll refer HBL to this to see what they think. I'm perfectly fine with keeping this ban. You haven't learned a single thing. Theres the door. Get out
Notes for gannymede: [+]
01-Apr-2014 | Banned for 2880 minutes - Killing 2 random people for no real reason, don't kill other players like that. ~alien219 [-]
05-Apr-2014 | Warned for space lubing hallways. ~skorvold [-]
08-Apr-2014 | Warned - OOC in IC ~elyina [-]
10-Apr-2014 | Banned from Captain, Head of Personnel, Head of Security, Chief Engineer, Research Director, Chief Medical Officer - Ghosting and logging out as Captain; please appeal this ban at
http://www.ss13.eu/phpbb/ ~subtlegraces [-]
11-Apr-2014 | Assaulted people at random, got robusted for it. Keep an eye for this kind of behaviour. ~laharlmontgommery [-]
12-Apr-2014 | Warned for harmbatonning a random dude who was just supposed to be brought in to the brg unprovoked, worrying given past record. ~hotelbravolima [-]
12-Apr-2014 | Banned from Head of Security, Warden, Detective, Security Officer - You are not fit to play the security role. Provoking and killing players who fight back. ~giacomand [-]
12-Apr-2014 | Banned for 1440 minutes - You are not fit to play the security role. Provoking and killing players who fight back ~giacomand [-]
13-Apr-2014 | After hitting someone with a bottle, an lighting him on fire as a bartender, the man died and his response for why was 'Reply PM from-Gannymede/(Zior Magunba): It was only one guy, it was humorous'. ~gamarr [-]
25-Apr-2014 | Banned for 1440 minutes - As chef, attacked an assistant who just joined with a knife. His reasoning was "he stole my knife" which he, in fact, never did. Logged out immediately after saying "he stole my knife", bad history. ~creationpro [-]
03-May-2014 | Warned for IEDing the HoP's office. ~hotelbravolima [-]
09-May-2014 | On probation. Griefs so much, if he does anything else, toss him out and let him explain on the forums. ~hotelbravolima [-]
01-Jun-2014 | Banned for 0 minutes - Constant bad behaviour, repeated warnings, kill baiting on probation by dragging a dead body around the station or into dimly lit areas to entice people ~brotemis [-]
Re: [brotemis] Gannymede/ boko haram Permaban appeal
Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 12:27 am
by gannymede
I stopped the bad behaviour once I was put on probation and the worst thing I've done since was dragging around a body. I wasn't purposely trying to entice anyone and I wouldn't have complained if someone attacked me especially since it was close to the end of the game.
Re: [brotemis] Gannymede/ boko haram Permaban appeal
Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2014 3:36 am
by Pandarsenic
It's not killbaiting if he didn't use it as an excuse to dunk someone though?
Re: [brotemis] Gannymede/ boko haram Permaban appeal
Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2014 3:52 am
by elyina
Is this all the guy was banned for? Dragging a body around and his history? Did he even attack anyone?
Re: [brotemis] Gannymede/ boko haram Permaban appeal
Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2014 3:55 am
by Hibbles
I'd like that clarified as well before we make any decisions.
Re: [brotemis] Gannymede/ boko haram Permaban appeal
Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2014 5:59 am
by Pandarsenic
June 1:
[23:29:50]ATTACK: David Wherner() attacked Boko Shady Haram(gannymede) with fire extinguisher(INTENT: HARM) (DAMTYE: BRUTE)
[23:29:51]ATTACK: Amir Ward() punched Boko Shady Haram(gannymede)
[23:29:51]ATTACK: Amir Ward() punched Boko Shady Haram(gannymede)
[23:29:52]ATTACK: Amir Ward() punched Boko Shady Haram(gannymede)
[23:29:53]ATTACK: Amir Ward() punched Boko Shady Haram(gannymede)
[23:29:54]ATTACK: Amir Ward() punched Boko Shady Haram(gannymede)
[23:29:55]ATTACK: Amir Ward() punched Boko Shady Haram(gannymede)
[23:29:56]ATTACK: Amir Ward() punched Boko Shady Haram(gannymede)
[23:29:57]ATTACK: Amir Ward() punched Boko Shady Haram(gannymede)
[23:29:59]ATTACK: Amir Ward() punched Boko Shady Haram(gannymede)
[23:30:36]ATTACK: Amir Ward() attacked Boko Shady Haram(gannymede) with Broken Bottle(INTENT: HELP) (DAMTYE: BRUTE)
[23:31:09]ATTACK: Amir Ward() attacked Boko Shady Haram(gannymede) with Broken Bottle(INTENT: HELP) (DAMTYE: BRUTE)
[23:31:10]ATTACK: Amir Ward() attacked Boko Shady Haram(gannymede) with Broken Bottle(INTENT: HELP) (DAMTYE: BRUTE)
[23:31:11]ATTACK: Amir Ward() attacked Boko Shady Haram(gannymede) with Broken Bottle(INTENT: HELP) (DAMTYE: BRUTE)
[23:31:12]ATTACK: Amir Ward() attacked Boko Shady Haram(gannymede) with Broken Bottle(INTENT: HELP) (DAMTYE: BRUTE)
[23:31:13]ATTACK: Amir Ward() attacked Boko Shady Haram(gannymede) with Broken Bottle(INTENT: HELP) (DAMTYE: BRUTE)
[23:31:14]ATTACK: Amir Ward() attacked Boko Shady Haram(gannymede) with Broken Bottle(INTENT: HELP) (DAMTYE: BRUTE)
[23:31:41]ATTACK: Amir Ward() attacked Boko Shady Haram(gannymede) with Broken Bottle(INTENT: HELP) (DAMTYE: BRUTE)
[23:31:42]ATTACK: Amir Ward() attacked Boko Shady Haram(gannymede) with Broken Bottle(INTENT: HELP) (DAMTYE: BRUTE)
[23:31:42]ATTACK: Amir Ward() attacked Boko Shady Haram(gannymede) with Broken Bottle(INTENT: HELP) (DAMTYE: BRUTE)
[23:31:43]ATTACK: Amir Ward() attacked Boko Shady Haram(gannymede) with Broken Bottle(INTENT: HELP) (DAMTYE: BRUTE)
[23:31:45]ATTACK: Amir Ward() attacked Boko Shady Haram(gannymede) with Broken Bottle(INTENT: HELP) (DAMTYE: BRUTE)
[23:31:45]ATTACK: Amir Ward() attacked Boko Shady Haram(gannymede) with Broken Bottle(INTENT: HELP) (DAMTYE: BRUTE)
[23:31:46]ATTACK: Amir Ward() attacked Boko Shady Haram(gannymede) with Broken Bottle(INTENT: HELP) (DAMTYE: BRUTE)
[23:31:47]ATTACK: Amir Ward() attacked Boko Shady Haram(gannymede) with Broken Bottle(INTENT: HELP) (DAMTYE: BRUTE)
[23:31:48]ATTACK: Amir Ward() attacked Boko Shady Haram(gannymede) with Broken Bottle(INTENT: HELP) (DAMTYE: BRUTE)
[23:31:49]ATTACK: Amir Ward() attacked Boko Shady Haram(gannymede) with Broken Bottle(INTENT: HELP) (DAMTYE: BRUTE)
[23:32:34]ATTACK: Henderson Atkinson() grabbed Boko Shady Haram(gannymede) passively
[23:32:37]ATTACK: Henderson Atkinson() grabbed Boko Shady Haram(gannymede) passively
June 2:
Banned 2014-06-02 02:29:51
No attack logs involving him June 2
Re: [brotemis] Gannymede/ boko haram Permaban appeal
Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2014 12:27 pm
by Brotemis
Wrong logs, pandar, and I explained this to you HBL already.
Re: [brotemis] Gannymede/ boko haram Permaban appeal
Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2014 1:39 pm
by Pandarsenic
More complete logs of the round:
Did he actually set the guy on fire successfully? Did you mention it somewhere I missed?
Re: [brotemis] Gannymede/ boko haram Permaban appeal
Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2014 2:51 am
by gannymede
Have you made a decision yet? Its a minor crime to be permabanned over and even if I had a history it's clear that I put an effort in to stop. I only did those things when I was new to the game.
Re: [brotemis] Gannymede/ boko haram Permaban appeal
Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2014 9:26 am
by Deuryn
Yes. If Brotemis hasn't extrapolated on this by the end of the weekend, I'll remove the ban.
Re: [brotemis] Gannymede/ boko haram Permaban appeal
Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2014 1:24 pm
by CreationPro
I am interested in this part of the log:
Pandarsenic wrote:More complete logs of the round:
Apparently, you set a dude on fire after he tried to stop you from dragging the body, but then you said you don't mind being killed. Could you elaborate?
Re: [brotemis] Gannymede/ boko haram Permaban appeal
Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2014 2:29 pm
by Brotemis
Deuryn wrote:Yes. If Brotemis hasn't extrapolated on this by the end of the weekend, I'll remove the ban.
Let's not jump into things we aren't involved in without facts.
To be honest, I could have sworn I denied this already but apparently the post didn't make it.
Anyway. Guy has a history of killbaiting, lieing to admins, setting people on fire as a bartender using welding fuel bottles, and being a general griefer.
Only reason that HBL was involved was because I informed them that this guy was permad and what they thought.
Lastly, basis of the round in question: Boko Haram grabs an already dead body and starts attacking and dragging it quickly through the halls and into maintenance next to the janitor office where the door is engaged open so you can see into what otherwise would he a very dark tunnel.
He continues to attack the dead body after being followed by someone who in their mind just saw Boko murder and drag someone in the hall.
Cue the attack logs and Boko pulls out the bottle, smashes the other person over the head with it and sets them on fire.
I had been watching boko already since it was admin helped he was randomly attacking people. One look at his notes showed a short but extensive history of griefing.
If you want to unban him, Deuryn, and he goes back to griefing, I'm going to call you out on a poor decision.
Appeal denied, play elsewhere and prove you can get along with others.
Edit: Oh wait I did deny it. Scroll up. Appeal, redenied
Re: [brotemis] Gannymede/ boko haram Permaban appeal
Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 4:25 pm
by Deuryn
See, that's what I wanted. We could have had this thread dealt with 3 weeks ago. We had a ban with questionable circumstance, with very little details, and you opened it to HBL and then never expanded on it, so we were left in limbo without any explanations.