It's not vastly inferior. It just has a couple of map issues that need bringing up to speed, since it was a fairly unused map and Metacide was away for a long period it kinda lagged behind. They are now active again, we're getting good feedback and things can be changed.
Also as a lot of people have made it clear, this isnt a "box vs meta" situation, its a "why not both!?".
Whatever
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peoplearestrange wrote:Because like all things that don't get played with, it won't get fixed. Box was "broken" for the large population when we had a sudden population increase regularly. But things get balanced, hence why its a opensource github project, its constantly evolving and changing.
Exactly this. Metacide is on a roll with map updates. If a map gets more use, people are more motivated to update it. "Meta has some problems therefore we should never ever use it!" is a retarded argument.
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The question is why we should bother playing it if it's currently a vastly inferior map to Box. We could just play Box instead.
Probably because a little bit of variety keeps the game interesting?
You go through the same motions on every map but the variety changes the playstyle pretty drastically per map and creates different scenarios and possibilities.
If you play one map in competitive CSGO I guarantee you'll be seeing the exact same plays made over and over and over.
The same pre-set smokes, the same picks, the same fakes, the same after plants.
It's the same with Box. You see the same shit pretty regularly.
Scott wrote:Because guess what. You could always have played Metastation before. Jump to the other whole fucking server we have, it's running Metastation 24/7.
Box has been run on Basil before and it remained lowpop. People play on Sybil because of the population, not the map. The poll shows that the overwhelming majority of the community wants to play on meta at least sometimes.
The only proof I've found from any of this is you could probably offer ANYTHING to play on bagil and people would still shun it because of its playerbase/server population. I don't really think this has anything at all to do about the maps at this point, it's just a matter of getting people to not hate bagil.
running meta for, say, 3 rounds and then running box for three rounds seems like a good solution too.
have the other server always run the other map, and have it give a big message when the maps change, obviously.
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Miauw wrote:running meta for, say, 3 rounds and then running box for three rounds seems like a good solution too.
have the other server always run the other map, and have it give a big message when the maps change, obviously.
From what I understand, the plan is to eventually have Bagil run a map geared towards low population, and have Sybil run a proper rotation.
Here is how such a system is going to work, I've got it designed out.
There will be a preference option, called prefered map
Every round, at the end, it will roll for a new map, based on the percents of people online who have that map as their prefered map. the current map will get some percent of extra votes to avoid it switching too much.
Maps will also have min and max pop rules, and even a weighting multiple like giving box 1.5 the votes it got or giving meta only half of the votes it got. (all in config files).
There will be a line in both the status and lobby tabs with the current map so it can be easily seen.
All we need is for me to have the motivation to code it. I've been busy at work, so my down time has been spent watching DS9 or out on the town, catching up with friends.
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Can it be alternative Vote please with a reduced vote like 0.5 for your second choice and half again for the next and so on to help make it more even when we get more maps long term.
Can it be alternative Vote please with a reduced vote like 0.5 for your second choice and half again for the next and so on to help make it more even when we get more maps long term.
None of that applies, did you read what i said?
Its a random rotation weighted for what people selected. 90% of people can want box station, but metastation may still get selected 10% of the time.
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I want box the most then meta then mini
Other guy wants meta the most then box then mini
so that's 1+0.5 for box, 0.5+1 for meta, 0.25+0.25 for mini
So there's a 3/7 chance to roll box, 3/7 chance to roll meta, 1/7 chance to roll mini.
Some map rotation would be good, personally would be in favor of a ingame poll however randomising it also sounds good. We could even have the maps depend on population size, so a low population would give Ministation or another small station etc.
As for Metastation, I really used to like it and its still nice however I feel they cut too much maintanance away. Though that is just personal preference, if I were to make a map most of it would be maintanance.
I could see the perference setting like MSO wanted being good if every time it selected a new map it would be locked to it for about 3 rounds. It would be WAY too hard for new players to learn the game if the map was constantly shifting.
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