Turning bodies to ash with enough heat/time

[paprika]

I find it silly that a crematory can turn people to ash but not plasma fires for 30 minutes. I'd like it if high enough temperature for a long enough time turned corpses into ash.

[Saegrimr]

Maybe with a certain sustained temperature. You rarely get those kinds outside of burn chambers anyway so at least that would turn the incinerator room/toxins mixing chamber into a good way to get rid of bodies.

Trying to do that in the main halls just causes a breach and immediate dispersal of heat out of the hole. Plus that'd be a hell of a lot of people permanently out of the game for a hallway fire (assuming anybody would even take the time to clone them).

[paprika]

Yeah, I was thinking more along the lines of using the incinerator to get rid of bodies since you never really get a chance to use it it outside of that

[damiac]

I second this request, the incinerator is pretty useless at the moment,it probably should be able to incinerate things.

[Scott]

Did it ever have a purpose besides being there?

[paprika]

Making canister bombs. It was supposed to be used by the janitor or cargo to burn trash to ashes if they knew how to set it up right but that was never implemented.

[MisterPerson]

How hot are we talking here? If you want over the temp that causes floors to melt, that's 10,000 Kelvins. So hotter than that, but for how long? Does pressure play a factor here?

[Saegrimr]

How hot are we talking here? If you want over the temp that causes floors to melt, that's 10,000 Kelvins. So hotter than that, but for how long? Does pressure play a factor here?

Average burn mix cans get up to what, 90,000+ if I remember correctly? Pressure probably doesn't need to be a thing, but definitely time. Imagine dragging a burn mix can to medbay, opening it, and the whole place turns to ash instantly.

Using burn-damage to calculate it would lead to people being spaced turned to ash, so don't shortcut that. (I know someone was thinking it)

[Raven776]

It sounds like a fun idea but with the way atmos works and everything, I can't imagine it would be an easy thing to code without it being laggy or odd.

[MMMiracles]

Using burn-damage to calculate it would lead to people being spaced turned to ash, so don't shortcut that. (I know someone was thinking it)

Which is not a bad idea. Body frozen by space would crumble at slightest touch I think.

I think the bigger issue is how convient space is already for corpse disposal, i mean, you're already essentially out of the round by time you leave the airlock. Complete body disposal (no body) should take a little more effort than stun+airlock.

[Lo6a4evskiy]

Which is not a bad idea. Body frozen by space would crumble at slightest touch I think.

Really? Based on what?

I wouldn't want another way to lose ability to be cloned, to be honest.

[JJRcop]

Which is not a bad idea. Body frozen by space would crumble at slightest touch I think.

Really? Based on what?

I wouldn't want another way to lose ability to be cloned, to be honest.

Well I saw baloons crumble after being put in liquid nitrogen...

SS13 has a sun.

[Lo6a4evskiy]

It's also vacuum.

[cedarbridge]

I wouldn't want another way to lose ability to be cloned, to be honest.

This. There'd be essentially no point to space rescues and spacing would be literally permadead instead of "probably not going to find you ever" death.

[Saegrimr]

On the subject of burn damage.

Cryosting and Basilisk suddenly become ash machines, no thanks.

[Lo6a4evskiy]

I'm not sure about it, but probably people who died while being on fire as well.

[ExplosiveCrate]

That's only assuming that burn damage is used instead of atmospheric temperature. And even then, IIRC burn damage stops being applied after death unless you actively hit the limbs with lasers/welders.

[cedarbridge]

I'm not sure about it, but probably people who died while being on fire as well.

Toxins bursts into flames, scientist is deleted from the round ggnore

[ExplosiveCrate]

I'm not sure about it, but probably people who died while being on fire as well.

Toxins bursts into flames, scientist is deleted from the round ggnore

Fire melts the floor and dies down because space is cold. Scientist is still dead, but able to come back into the round.

Unless he reinforces the entire toxins mixing floor and builds walls in front of the windows, but who'd be stupid enough to do that?

[Fragnostic]

Unless he reinforces the entire toxins mixing floor and builds walls in front of the windows, but who'd be stupid enough to do that?

Same dumbfuck who popped a tank out of canister of superheated plasma without closing the valve.

[cedarbridge]

I'm not sure about it, but probably people who died while being on fire as well.

Toxins bursts into flames, scientist is deleted from the round ggnore

Fire melts the floor and dies down because space is cold. Scientist is still dead, but able to come back into the round.

Unless he reinforces the entire toxins mixing floor and builds walls in front of the windows, but who'd be stupid enough to do that?

Except we've already determined that exposure to space has the same burn damage end-game as a roaring furnace. Thus, exposure to space AFTER burning the shit out of yourself would only accelerate that process.

[Lo6a4evskiy]

That's only assuming that burn damage is used instead of atmospheric temperature. And even then, IIRC burn damage stops being applied after death unless you actively hit the limbs with lasers/welders.

It's not consistent. Space does go over -200 I'm pretty sure. Burning might not.

[MisterPerson]

We're doing this based off the ambient gas temperature anwyays, so let's cut the pointless spess discussion.

[Cuboos]

Ashes should also get sucked into space if they're near a hull breach/open airlock/incinerator shutters