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I confirmed that the note has been removed per TBM's post. Going to go ahead and resolve this.

if we remove secret fun from the map because it's discovered we should put something else in and not tell anyone >:) I intend to. I'm definitely removing this because apparently it spawns in fucking public tool storage . Need suggestions. Someone said a bee cube or super pointy tape, I'm thinking t...

Ngl it's a funny idea, a shame it got out of hand (OP should have taken better preventative measures ofc). The admin seems very uncharitable and that seems really lame to me. I'm not certain the player in question was intentionally acting malicious, but the fact that they keep bringing up that the ...

Anyway, most of their dumbassery in the appeal basically amounts to, "But I didn't actually do it, so I can't be held responsible for the consequences of my actions". Ians would be perfectly within their right to just tell them they're passing the appeal to headmins, who will almost defini...

if we remove secret fun from the map because it's discovered we should put something else in and not tell anyone >:) I intend to. I'm definitely removing this because apparently it spawns in fucking public tool storage . Need suggestions. Someone said a bee cube or super pointy tape, I'm thinking t...

I did not know that birdshot spawns gorilla cubes in the map and im not convinced that it should this player has fucked up because now coders know that there's some fun to remove e: also my take is that if the only people who died were OP and the other participant then playing Gorilla Cube Roulette...

https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=35376 More "people doing stupid shit because they don't like the map". Even if they didn't actually do it, I think this falls under the "giving someone a bomb and telling them not to set it off" precedents. E: Also why the fly...

We can note people for having misunderstandings in how rules work, it's not a prerequisite that a player do something wrong to have a note applied, it's just a record of an admin and player having a discussion about the rules. Like I said, if Xemo is incorrect in their interpretation of the rules, ...

I'm confused now. How is the player arguing that they did nothing wrong remotely noteworthy? The note isn't for releasing the prisoner, it's for turning around and telling everyone they didn't do anything wrong when they did. It's an informational note - it's simply saying "We had a conversati...

I'm confused now. How is the player arguing that they did nothing wrong remotely noteworthy? The note isn't for releasing the prisoner, it's for turning around and telling everyone they didn't do anything wrong when they did. It's an informational note - it's simply saying "We had a conversati...

I'll be honest vekter I don't understand your argument here, if it's not about them releasing the prisoner then whether they were wrong or not cannot be relevant. If they were arguing that silicon policy supported their actions I don't think they were wrong. If they did not do anything wrong then t...

The difference is that John hasn't committed any harmful acts before this and the AI has no reason to believe they could do so again. But the prisoner in this case also did not commit any harmful acts that the Borg was aware of. So what's the problem? I feel like you're getting stuck on the idea th...

I assume you mean law 2 orders, and the exception here is that silicon policy explicitly states that releasing a harmful criminal is a harmful act. I don't see how that matters. Here's an example: John gives the AI an order to open chemistry, while Mary the chemist is inside. John then pulls out a ...

:words: The problem is that this part of the rules implies that not verifying if someone is harmful is always going to be a law 1 violation: Nonviolent prisoners cannot be assumed harmful and violent prisoners cannot be assumed non-harmful. Releasing a harmful criminal is a harmful act. If you can'...

:words: The problem is that this part of the rules implies that not verifying if someone is harmful is always going to be a law 1 violation: Nonviolent prisoners cannot be assumed harmful and violent prisoners cannot be assumed non-harmful. Releasing a harmful criminal is a harmful act. If you can'...

theres a lot of cases where there isnt only one valid choice to make in order to follow asimov, by intention because otherwise we wouldnt be using "the laws designed for ai as a narrative device representing laws that have a lot of give in them", and I am not convinced that this was one o...

Wrong: Post by Timberpoes » Sat Dec 10, 2022 6:00 am #658617 What the rule says is: when not obligated to by orders or laws. It's very clear. If you're not forced to by orders or laws, you shouldn't swing by just to fuck with sec. If a player orders you to fuck with sec, it's not your problem, it's...

1) This isn't a punishment. Ohw yeah sorry, permanent written reprimands aren't punishments, I forgot. They're not, and the more you insist they are, the more you show you don't understand why it's important we keep track of when we've talked to players about issues. I honestly shouldn't have even ...

Warned about potentially releasing harmful prisoners as an Asimov Cyborg. This round, released a prisoner without knowing whether or not they were harmful. Was told shortly after that they were, but insisted that without visually confirming the harm themselves, they were required to free them even ...

EsotericSeaslug wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 11:15 pm At what point do admins decide it’s necessary to ask for age verification?

It's not going to happen - we don't allow any adult/sexual interactions which is literally the only reason we'd ever actually need to check ages.

Do admins that get deadmin'd because they breached conduct also get permabanned from the game? You perma people for much less, i'd assume leaking private info (IPs included or not) is a pretty significant issue. Not automatically. They don't come hand in hand, it's always going to depend on the sit...

I haven't really had an experience having someone use it be improved or made worse by it. I get the idea behind it but I do worry that it's going to be confusing for people who are ESL. Like I don't think it's inherently a bad template, I think there's good ideas with having it, but it needs to be e...

I had this conversation the other day with admins because I got noted for OOC in IC for mentioning silicon policy. But when you point out to admins that it's impossible to correct and explain to silicons how things work otherwise they just kind of monkey hands over ears emoji you. ...which is stupi...

Hey, Scriptis retired since your last appeal so I'll take over on this.

Let me look at your playtime over the last week and I'll get back to you.

E: I'm seeing 18 hours since your ban and not seeing anything that looks like you've bailed early on a round. That works for me. I'll lift the ban.

Lurzik voiced interest in having this reopened per their last discussion with Scriptis.

MooCow12 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 1:49 am
Vekter wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 1:46 am I SAW WHAT YOU DID.

I dont normally make threads i just wanted to make this one for the title :c

Ping me next time and I'll just move it.

I SAW WHAT YOU DID. Anyway no, that's a different situation because it's the difference between "taking an action that can directly harm a human" (attacking someone the captain says is a changeling) and "not taking an action that could lead to human harm" (not releasing a prisone...

Hey gamer, unless there's been a response to this thread in the next 24 hours I'll go ahead and assume this is resolved.

Jacquerel wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 5:26 am tgstation needs your name and address or it won't be able to post you the awards you get for being really robust and defeating all of the antagonists by yourself

id tell you why they were deadminned but its not gonna make sense unless you have an intimate knowledge of egyptian mythology and celestial physics I do have an intimate knowledge of egyptian mythology and celestial physics. Illuminate me, please https://www.gateworld.net/wiki/images/9/91/Pyramidsh...

The basics of what can actually be revealed are: - Chadley and Alamo leaked admin channel discussions to players. The subject of the discussion is private enough that we can't discuss it in-depth, but trust me in that it crosses the line of what would be permissible. As Wine alluded to, Chadley's be...

You also have sec records that state someone's spawning race. If you explain to the ai you were surgical given cat ears they can just check sec records to confirm you are telling the truth or send one of their mediborgs to scan them. Also I think minor griefing is fine because it allows players to ...

TBM has removed the note so I'm resolving this.

I think this happens from time to time, but most of the more recent ones have been just trying to clarify or simplify rules, which I'm definitely for. I just think we need a rule that says, "If you have an active ban appeal, you cannot make a policy discussion thread related to the topic of tha...

I like this idea, but as Misdoubtful points out, it's kind of a bitch to moderate. We already have plenty of trouble with people not understanding "Don't tell people who the Heretic that sacrificed you is", so I'm not sure our players could handle this. Do and always have liked it though. ...

2) No, because if they are revived with the cat ears on they lose silicon protections under Asimov (Silicons can identify non-humans based on species traits, like wings, tails, and cat ears).[/spoiler] Actually racial identity is decided from health analyzers to be sure, a simple extra trait or lim...

We note people for doing any kind of body modification like removing/replacing other peoples' limbs for no reason without consent. It's grief. It's not something you should be doing to people for no IC reason. shouldnt...shouldnt reactive bio scrambler armor be banned then? also isnt adding cat ear...

We note people for doing any kind of body modification like removing/replacing other peoples' limbs for no reason without consent. It's grief. It's not something you should be doing to people for no IC reason.

Hey, sorry for the delay.

Thunder says they do intend on responding to this but have been busy with the holiday.

I can confirm this note was modified, so we'll go ahead and resolve this.

Reason for the timeout:

don't repost things staff have deleted

Omega has been notified.

As long as you're not running around saying four lines a round and killing people randomly, you'll be fine. Or not helping your team as a cultist, or not arresting tiders as a seccie, or breaking into departments to empower yourself as a crewmember, or not following any of the new rules. It is lite...

The paternalistic mindset of “we know best,” and then following that up with forced rulesets to set in motion your selective view of the game, at the expense of literally everyone and anyone who disagrees with that view of the game, is a bad way to handle policy. If you prefer MRP, then that’s fine...

Actual ban reason: Banned from the server permanently - Round 197164, going around propositioning people and asking them things like "you wanna fuck sometime?". In one case carried a person's brain around in an MMI while continuing to be extremely sexual and creepy towards them. Has alread...

If OP hasn't responded to this in 24 hours, I'm closing it as resolved.

If OP hasn't responded to this in the next 24 hours, I'm closing it as resolved.

Just stay out of polcon and your life will get significantly better.

It's worth noting that there's two different aspects to the ban in question: 1) Suiciding as a head of staff is generally frowned upon and will get you banned from command roles by itself. 2) Suiciding specifically because you didn't get an antag role is considered "antag rolling". The typ...

aren't half the arcade machine prizes things that are meant to fool people that aren't paying attention into thinking that there's an esword / red spacesuit / whatever around kinda like the old trick of renaming a book to "cryptographic sequencer" and putting it in your bag in front of so...

I think leaving it up to judgment is better, because it inspires the question to be asked, rather than a checklist to be ticked. The problem is that the ruling is vague enough that it inevitably leads to questions every time it comes up. If our admins can't even tell when it actually applies, then ...

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