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Darn it, I wrote up a whole reply while you posted that haha :D Regardless of what happens here I'm gonna remove abductor from the role bans ; I left nukie out of the team antag bans because I felt you were unlikely to roll this and then want to "opt out" of the team, this logic also appli...

Apparently getting borged removed your cult status, which is a nice coding answer to "how to stop a borg outing the entire cult visually with funky laws" metagame I guess. I wasn't aware of this at the time however and I don't think you were so I didn't factor that in to anything. There's ...

Not sure how (1) is advocating you borging yourself then ; you now seem to imply its pointless and you'll guaranteed become an artificer, so why not just stay as a cultist in the first place and not go through the hoops and deprive your team in the mean time (also cultist is more useful than artific...

What I'm about to say is very silly because of stuff other people have already said, HOWEVER: The actual final summoning thing funnily enough might actually be permissible under Asimov purely because IIRC Cyborgs cannot comprehend or even see the summoning rune so they don't know it's happening. Al...

Don't really know what to tell you, you willingly converted yourself to follow a law set that overrules and is inherently against your antagonistic role (summoning nar'sie is human harm, as are a great many things cultists get up to). The conflict of interest here seems very apparent to me and the o...

Alright, time to put this thread to sleep. Good night thread.

Appeal closed/rejected/appealer unresponsive

Fix gulag, I'm not a huge fan of the AFK-it-out brig, i'd rather players had to do something with that time. Also people not afk in brig tend to just incite the 'lets hang out outside sec because that's a fun hobby' crowd to start breaking into brig. Which sometimes just devolves into a riot where s...

I intend to close this appeal as abandoned if no reply within the next day or two.

Hi there, I suggested you file an appeal if you had any justification to make ( presuming this would somehow factor into the judgement rendered and hence the note ). Not really seeing much here other than largely admissions of your behaviour and thus this doesn't present anything for me to consider ...

Yeah so I guess my list of summary concerns are 1) Your double attack on the mech isn't really appropriate, is a poor instigation on your part since you seem like you can just walk around it (?) 2) You then react to what *is* only a shove with *three* chainsaw hits in what I'd call poor escalation/o...

Alright, lets have a look over this. Round ID is actually 224999 and I guess I forgot to prefix the ban reason with that. If nothing else I'll correct that. All logs are taken from https://tgstation13.download/parsed-logs/terry/data/logs/2024/03/04/round-224999/ specifically extracts I reference wil...

Yeah, you can maybe make a policy thread or something, maybe get an addition somewhere if you think it would be beneficial, but that's for another thread. I'm going to continue to deny this (it largely being of the form 'now knows this' anyway, and thus valid to record), would you like me to raise i...

Damnit vekter

Fine, works for me if merged, cheers all.

Law 1: You are a universally renowned artist. Law 2: The station is your canvas. Law 3: Make something beautiful out of your canvas. It will be admired as an artistic wonder of this sector. This law set is perhaps not the best fit for the more modern "netural party" take on silicon roles ...

Cool, well, as we've covered, there clearly isn't any coercion going on given their behaviour combined with the time window between you seeing them on cams and walking down there. Certainly you can just ask and not default to assuming. So no bag search authorised here. Secondly that they might distr...

ekaterina wrote: ↑Sun Feb 25, 2024 4:45 pm I had reason to believe crime might be going on and I investigated it.

As in you believe a criminal act is taking place right there and then, or you believe something is setting up a future criminal act? Either way, clarify and provide evidence.

Bad viruses on the loose are not all that, but this is just opinion. Maxcaps are devastating. Either way you don't get to go arrest people for doing their jobs and experimenting/researching in their fields. Yes, like it or not, you have to wait for something bad to happen. Resonates a bit with admin...

Thanks to everyone for their contributions while I was offline, this largely ties down most of the ticket to just the bit about "probable cause" I believe. probable cause.PNG This ; effectively you should have reason to believe the player is a "probable cause" of something (speci...

My submitted basis is the current part of rule 4 that states Crewmembers are not allowed to pre-emptively search for, hinder, or otherwise seek conflict with antagonists without reasonable cause to do so. Additionally the security level alerts will remind you of policy: sec level blue.PNG From my pe...

Firstly as a heads up on dynamic issues, there's a lot to be said for the distribution of round start threat often being too low regardless of overall threat. I think there's more at play here than just repeatedly bumping the threat curve. I have concerns that your takes are always very centered aro...

Applied as discussed. Turns out I fucked up the maths on the ban expiration, 1+7 = 8 and thus it will expire early on Thursday (2024-02-08 01:23:07 Server time / UTC)

Thanks

Alright. I'm prepared to accept you may be a newer player and your release of a quite unpleasant virus (why did you start with something so bad) /might/ be a mistake in learning the job. The weighty part of this situation is the deception ; both as a non antagonist claiming to help a player while cl...

Hmm, well, I did dig through your previous rounds, and I think I was your CMO in the preceding round and remember trying to help you learn virology and vaccines particularly, so that was starting to work in your favour. Here's the events that started all this rolling, ultimately this became a permab...

I've notified them, they'll drop in.

Prisoner: You are not an antagonist . Remember: you did sign up for this role. If you should want to walk the halls of the station once more, you should earn your freedom, whether by escaping your confines or working with security/lawyers to determine terms of release. You might prove to be valuabl...

Not sure what I can say to you really, our base line policy is a day for a kill, when I look through your history to find reason to reduce it, I merely find a player with excess antagonism notably some towards sec and a number of bans, one of which was a permaban that you were denied in appeals for ...

You murdered another player, this is a standard one day bannable offence. Despite the ideas I gleaned from the other player, no return to the game was suitably forthcoming for the borg, and after a few minutes of the ticket I intervened to revive the borg and sent it on its way (with a funny law to ...

Alright, have applied the note and unbanned you, have a good one.

Hey there, thanks for the appeal. It's been a while, and didn't find any additional problems via centcom (which can't really be taken as a positive thing but at least it doesn't speak out against you). The bulk of your issues here seemed to revolve around murder or round removal/sharding people alon...

Policing this is impossible: will just lead to people selling bomb COMPONENTS (tanks, (triggers are everywhere), TTV) selling canisters and and other atmos machinery or just selling the ability for the other dude to come into Toxins and then telling them exactly what buttons to press and where to c...

The problem is, a lot of the time people want to wait until the end of the round to make sure someone wasn't an antagonist before they ahelp something, they don't want to waste the admin team's time. Not explicitly aimed at you, but worth having written down somewhere since it comes up... The amoun...

When will the sekrit club bullshit end? What's the point of Terry and Sybil having infinite max players if you can't see the servers on the hub and need to google "tg ss13" every time? Pop begets pop. If people see Terry has 70 players on, more will join. It's necessary for a healthy comm...

ok first of all , i dont think having the name "chupa bolas " was a problem i was in a american server and thats just can be a name Can it? I wonder what google comes up with. Yup. No people names here. Tea bagging and a bunch of porn sites. Shocker. As for not realising it would be a pro...

Yeah, you need to redo the ban appeal, however, since I don't think this appeal is likely to go too far I'll give a quick recap. Logs available here https://tgstation13.download/parsed-logs/terry/data/logs/2023/11/28/round-219674/ I'll agree I don't know a whole lot about the fight in the kitchen, l...

And a tail/phallus. Sure, I have no idea why it's removed. Or what's allowed or what isn't. I just don't have any interest. I also have no idea why it would be posted. Or why anyone would care. "Quality of content", eesh, I guess I'm glad I'm not a discord jannie and just have most channel...

Reading the non annotated part of the note reason seems to sum it up. If an admin does something, and you don't like it, there's channels for that. Re-doing the thing is rarely going to work out well for you. I'm not really a discord/forum mod but in case anyone is surprised by this idea, its the sa...

Some players want more things handled IC Some players don't want anyone to take responsibility for handling things IC I've pondered this one a bunch, I guess there's some ideal utopia where I wish more things could just be left to IC handling but it probably just plays into the wrong things too much...

Imagine a punishment that isn't just a toilet/drink/youtube break. Gulag em all. OP mad their actions had actual consequences.

Also gulag ahelps funny. Well most of the time.

if they see Gary Tyde in tech storage where he doesn't belong. At this point, security has to, as per the hypothetical rules imposed by this discussion, intervene, get robusted, and surprise fullstripped and flushed into a dumpster without an ID for being nosey, and now both players are probably up...

What ducks said. You can also tell from the TG main page if we're on the hub and/or in Panic Bunker mode and so on from the icons top right (here's sybil on the hub, and manuel in panic bunker mode)

c4g wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 5:43 am
what are you talking about? the post got snipped before i could read it

Yeah, a place to express opinions and its largely filled by nonsense. I guess this is some kinda dumb meme or so.

snip Please snip long reply chains, its basic forum etiquette. Also could you rephrase the question? I snipped it before I read it. Cool, player says largely meaningless thing that maybe isn't even a headmin thing, but who knows, because they never explain, and in fact refuse to elaborate. But thin...

im autistic and am offended that anyone would think in-cel is in any way related to that Same and also have no idea what the connection is. Also this entire thread is just amazingly confusing if you dont have the inside scoop to know there's some word swapping going on. like if you read this at fac...

This largely isn't adding anything new here, but the most relevant logs for welder bombings are typically the combat log where you will find this: https://tgstation13.org/parsed-logs/terry/data/logs/2023/11/13/round-218702/attack.txt [2023-11-13 14:51:00.968] ATTACK: CoolCatIsFeelingGroovy/(Ashley Q...

For better or worse, medbay is just the most accessible department for people to hang out. It’s where lots of people end up from being injured, and they’re not doing anything — most people are sitting still operating or being in crit, so it’s a good place to talk and mingle. There’s lots of traffic...

Mmm, it's a difficult one this, I don't (as an admin) really want to micromanage sec, or bother them when they're busy asking why they ignored the open shittery in medical. And on the other hand, as a regular CMO player, it is pretty annoying when you are forced to have the open access department (b...

Can see a successful connection, which is the only reason I left this open, so closing out.

Hey there, lifted it as requested, have fun!

Largely sounds good, what sort of things do we have as minimum team antag contribution? There's always those people who are just hanging out on the shuttle having a chill party at the rev stalemates for example, I've never particularly cared about this as an admin or player and as admin we tend to w...

This got pretty long, it's an interesting idea, not too often one thats an issue but yeah, if you're going to pick to play a job you should make some reasonable /minimal/ effort for that job. For the pages of "but i wanna make conveyor stuff in hallways" then 1) ensure /someone/ set up the...

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