/tg/Station 13

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You could probbably just add "Admins may instruct players to stop using overplayed/spammed gimmicks or playstyles at their own discretion, even if no rules are being broken" to rule 7 or 6 or something, and leave the detailed explanation about how its toxic to the server in the rp rules.

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For anyone wondering if something like this can be detected in-round before the (multiple) bugs that made this invisible on logs are fixed, the admin Secrets tool "list signalers" logs all signal pulses and their sender in a round, though like most Investigate tools I don't believe it's ad...

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This has just struck me, but why was Northstar made to be the only map where fore/aft/port/starboard don't match with north/south/west/east directions? Obviously that cant be changed now but maybe thats why people get lost so much?

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this is your daily reminder that you dont have to follow stupid and annoying orders Yes you do, you just don't have to follow obnoxiously unreasonable ones. The order in question was more like "Come with me I need you" and the borg just didnt want to because they were busy doing something...

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The note is harsh and unjustified. There is little to no reason to slap me with a Rule 1 griefing note. Would you feel that it's no longer unjustifiably harsh if all the un-needed stuff/context was removed and it was just changed to the pure recordskeeping "Asked to stop breaking into the vaul...

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IIRC in code we did actually lower EVA to not require a command-access slot to put on someone's ID card or something of the like, purely because there really isn't any reason for it to count as a secure area any more. (I don't really know how the new ID slot system code works, I just know internall...

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i will never be comfortable demanding that people play the game. it is not something that i will ever act on administratively. they are free to quit for whatever reason they like. but if you (not specifically you, but the royal you) quit the game because you lost or something happened that you don'...

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Fake radio callouts is a fun one. Random crew saying fake common callouts like "Plasma in distro?" "Blue APC in [random area]", "Nightmare science maint" etc. I think we have some of these already but the choices are a bit lame Fake disease symptoms for you or people ar...

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Essentially, Manuel rules are mostly fences to herd players away from the common sorts of anti-rp behaviour and lone wolf wordless optimized gamer play.

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Had a round the other day where I was really snotty to a sec officer who was being an asshole fnr and calling the borgs rogue, malf accusing, etc at roundstart. Like 5 minutes of arguing on comms with him later I go "why *is* he so mad at you anyway" on .b and borg was like "oh he ord...

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Saying you have to sit through the extremely long-winded routine of "trial for a confirmed antag" instead of just ghosting out is dumb. Trials are so slow and cumbersome that unless everyone involved wants one there's no point, especially since most captains just ignore everything that was...

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RIP first campaign casualty. Being able to unpick the chain of bad strategic decisions, bad tactical decisions, and bad luck that leads to an unwelcome demise is always excruciating.

(Load time is getting a little long on the page with so many images too)

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Seven day ban for gibbing security as a traitor chef? What the fuck?

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People are also pretty bad at estimating the threat level on any round that doesn't have a plasmaflood, a final objective, and multiple killing sprees tbh.

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There's levels of uncontainability, and changelings are a BIG step above heretics. Sure, some heretic types can easily escape prison if you toss them in perma unattended, but changelings can and will escape rapidly from cuffs while being held by an officer and are just as dangerous as if they'd neve...

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I feel like manuel's in a good balance between "Only a few antags, spend more time doing regular sec stuff buddy" and "Would you like to meet The Wizard? Too Bad!" rounds tbh

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Maybe we should look into making map votes able to be called again after say, 30 minutes. That way you never lock people out of choosing a new map but "I vote bird at roundstart when theres 15 people on then only play another 10 minutes" has less of an effect on the next round 90 minutes l...

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This should really be a code solution because I can't imagine this would feel fair without some sort of balancing act. Nobody's going to buff borgs over a config change, that's just going against whoever's vision it is guiding borgs right now. Borgs have had features added to them specifically base...

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Borgs are kinda supposed to be slower than humans and theyve ended up getting batteries of nerfs and counters coded in as a response to being the same speed as an unhurt human over time, many of which people have no clue exist like throwing trash at them. Lowering their speed down to "can't win...

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My question is at what point does wasting resources in nuke ops become a free kill for the roiling mob? Like, if someone's carving statues with glass and metal and building a lounge instead of using it to build nukeops defenses, I think we all agree that would be insane to kill them. But if someone ...

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While being wasteful and frivolous with tight resources during an emergency situation as a head of staff is dumb and crew should totally give them shit for it, saying "Waste your R&D points at all = kill" is kinda crazy and is, blunty, powergamer talk. In this specific case especially,...

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I was in one of these "mass objective go build a thing" hypnotisms and, you know, it was in fact kinda fun? Like we got told to "go build a new xenobiology in escape", and a swarm of people with stolen tools and gear showed up and at least chipped in, or helped break down the doo...

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PARANOIA ss13. The AI is always in charge but each head of staff (ULTRAVIOLET) can upload laws but NOT reset them. This can only go well. Crew have colour-coded security clearances. These are mostly random at shift-start and you have to do what a higher-clearance crewman says. The clown can roll any...

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replace humans with slimepeople for a month. This will greatly enhance roleplay. I have foreseen it.

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The new headmin team will enforce a codebase style "one in, one out" and remove another roundstart species to make room. I think this should be standard.

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Wait what, when the hell was this policy put in? The WHOLE POINT of the silicon faction is to be the 3rd faction between crew and security, and to help create interesting conflicts with security induced by their lawset, this has been a central theme in a million previous silicon policy discussions....

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If the viro releases a disease that kills jellypeople but won't make a vaccine for the jellypeople then he should be valid to jellypeople, seems simple.

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What kinds of hypnosis commands are we talking about here? Because there's a long precedent even for silicon laws that super unreasonable, time consuming, or obnoxious commands/laws are expected to get ignored/only somewhat followed. (See classics like "AI count all tiles on station before answ...

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I think that *total* stealth ops is kinda shitty because unless you screw up badly, the captain is lurking with a bunch of armed people all the time, or someone happens to bump into you as you're lurking in maint to yell NUKIES!! its a guaranteed win as you jump the captain, strip him/blow him up to...

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What are peoples opinions on replacing the ORM with a window? You occasionally see cargo departments do that, because everyone knows it's only existed as a free beeline to the autolathe/cargo lathe ever since they added the ore silo (screwdriver + wrench lets you instantly bypass cargos front doors...

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So like did the paramedic just happen to stumble across an greytider assistant who was being manhunted to death at the worst possible moment (right before the captain burst in) or were they following them around or what? I assume the paramedic wasnt following them around healing them while knowing ...

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What are peoples opinions on replacing the ORM with a window? You occasionally see cargo departments do that, because everyone knows it's only existed as a free beeline to the autolathe/cargo lathe ever since they added the ore silo (screwdriver + wrench lets you instantly bypass cargos front doors ...

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So like did the paramedic just happen to stumble across an greytider assistant who was being manhunted to death at the worst possible moment (right before the captain burst in) or were they following them around or what? I assume the paramedic wasnt following them around healing them while knowing t...

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The note should be amended to clarify that there was a 93% vote for "I was fine with being singuloed that was base", with only 1 upset player while the rest of the crew made a viewing stand and set up concessions like it was a ballgame tbh instead of a vaguely worded "oh ya this guys ...

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it kinda sucks that the space carp and the dragon are just like: incredibly fast, space-capable (and therefore usually making a depressurised area wherever it can constantly) repositioning, deadly, stationwide threat, spawning teleporting adds, and fully allowed to do shit like beelining for apcs an...

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2017? Werent all antag tokens able to be redeemed for any antag back then?

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I don't think it's a healthy call to restrict the captain like that without there being some sort of carrot, support, or safeguard to account for the pressures Constellado brought up - even on captains or acting captains who do not WANT to be involved in security affairs. The captain's not forced t...

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2. One my old flip phone, one a smartphone i dropped face down (and it was still usable for months)

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If a traitor got jumped by zombies instantly in my "secretly its zombies" round and ahelped being upset I might have given them a token for it since yeah I guess thats my fault you ate shit unavoidably, but banning events on metastation because you like playing on it is beyond ridiculous.

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I feel that "beat cop" activity as captain is pretty much in the same area as breaking open the gun case roundstart. I guess you can , but its petty and cringe and people should make more fun of players that do it. Captain should be stepping in for more serious situations, like leading man...

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NecromancerAnne wrote: ↑Wed Mar 06, 2024 7:54 pm
Not-Dorsidarf wrote: ↑Wed Mar 06, 2024 2:54 pm The round before the big site crash we had was fun, there was a shoddy subversion law, I had a gimmick based on it, but then oops server box out.
You may not have seen it, but I pixel shifted a fedora onto your head that round

Now i'm DOUBLE GRUMBLE for missing it

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The round before the big site crash we had was fun, there was a shoddy subversion law, I had a gimmick based on it, but then oops server box out.

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Also, there are additional factors to consider such as Security clearly being subservient to the Captain even in terms which strictly relate to Security, i.e how Security is supposed to get the Captain's explicit permission to execute. Yes, the captain can overrule security and other departments, b...

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Long war 1! Now this is in for the long haul.

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I really don't know why captain players have such an obsession with needing to kill/hunt antags. Ridiculous comparisons aside, maybe we just shouldnt make them the most heavily armed and armored crew member on the station, the target of virtually every antag, constantly under threat from any unchec...

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Like, you have a flash and flashbang - if the human in question is an existential threat, just kill them while the borg is incapacitated from one of those options. Yeah, if you aren't playing a nonhuman you can just... kill the baddie while its stunned then apologise profusely and promise the silic...

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Voting for a new map being enabled at server reload/initialisation always feels silly - there should be a code option to time-lock types of votes or something, so you cant vote on the next round's map until everyone settles into the current one a bit.
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Brainswapping golems into regular humans so they can be fully formed henchmen is stupid. its a golem. it only has a brain because its a code mechanical requirement.

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I know the lamp jokes are old but honestly I still like them. Wasn't there a trend of moths having car names ages ago or was that a fever dream I had? It sadly never took flight like it should have, but Honda, Toyota & Suzuki are names which you may see on Terry. Subaru's been in a couple of ro...

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conrad wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2024 5:12 pm then if it goes to head admins they go through the same, except with hidden orwellian votings not even us admins have access to

i heard if you want to get a portenteous vote you can sacrifice a white cockrel as an offering

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