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Guestify has now been in the database as a Trial Admin for like a bazillion years or something roughly two months, rounding down. Please use this thread as public review; it's encouraged for players to comment on how well/badly the trial admin has done and whether or not they think the trial admin s...

The policy is actually set in code: https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/blob/master/code/datums/brain_damage/split_personality.dm#L167 /mob/living/split_personality/Login() . = ..() if(!. || !client) return FALSE to_chat(src, span_notice("As a split personality, you cannot do anything but ob...

Just because a player can do something within the rules, it doesn't stop any consequences for it IC. Every admin would rule permabrigging for building an unauthorised AI as an IC issue. It's the most IC issue of all IC issues. Naturally I eagerly await the one ticket or admin interaction where this ...

It is and/or can be treated like one.

Nobody really cares in the end once the deed is done. No player ever got noted for permabrigging someone that made an AI without permission.

It's just not in space law because space law is more of an RP tool than an exhaustive list of all crimes ever.

To clarify, I had also asked Inept/EoB to draw up a modern mapping config with numbers that better reflect what pop bands we should expect to see each map in. Not that it would be used verbatim, but that our map configs are just a fucking mess right now in general and it would be nice having a set o...

Ya. My input is:
Wearing antag gear = can be treated like an antag.
Wearing antag gear + not acting like an antag = can be treated like a friendly antag.

Players feel free to do with this information as you will.

Right. But if a second AI is valid just for existing then there are absolutely zero shackles on it pre-emptively killing the primary AI. Every single freedom you'd give the primary AI to instantly kill the secondary AI, you have to give the secondary AI to kill the primary AI. Especially when it com...

From the same policy thread: Unauthorised AIs are covered by the core server rules the same as any other AI and are bound (and given freedom) by silicon policy the same as any other AI. They have no more and no fewer rights in general. There are a ton of valid reasons for AI-AI conflict to sprout bu...

It was Kinnebian, he thought it was just a continuation of the same paintings already deleted, so he deleted it too.

It has already been discussed in the admin channels though, so it's not worth building a house in your head about it. He wouldn't pay the rent.

(I considered it amicably resolved at this post and have basically just been shitposting since)

Also to clarify, when the deletion of your latest work of art was highlighted in adminbus Scriptis did a grep or something of the Terry logs to find out who deleted it and when. For context, stuff like books just get flagged with a "deleted" tag in the database - as they're stored in the d...

Timberpoes has been demoted to Assistant Executive Head Admin for his lapse in judgement. I would also like to state for the record that the Irritating Citrus painting is blessed and made me giggle and I will investigate re-adding it to Terry this afternoon edit: I will not make any further judgeme...

Makes sense but I think that is a minority, I really doubt most of the playerbase is filled with ban-evaders and blood thirsty players just feening to break some rules so they can see the time police. People trying to game https://tgstation13.org/tgdb/publicbans.php The war on evasion is a lot like...

I'd like to reward the people not breaking the rules with fun admin interactions.

The people breaking the rules? Right click > delete is about the most they'll get if they don't stop fucking around when I ask them to.

Yes. Yes it is.

OOC in IC is OOC in IC. By not handling that stuff as it pops up, it's kinda banbaiting players. Because they are breaking the rules. It's different to that super subjective/muddy stuff like IC conflict where it really all depends on the unique facts around it. Two admins can disagree on the final o...

The main issue here feels like that LRP is a pretty vague description and everyone has their own definition of it. you could ask two admins what LRP is and you would get entirely different answers, one will tell you lrp SS13 is a chill chatroom with a game attached to it, the other will tell you yo...

We don't have a dedicated team to curating the library or paintings in general. However, that doesn't mean an individual admin can't decide that your individual pricegáhrbáhgeless work of art is infact a derivative load of gáhrbáhge and delete it. The key being how much attention you bring to your p...

Idgaf about admins deleting OOC meme reference paintings. Make the smallest bit of effort to transform it into an in-universe representation such that even a single admin feels like arguing it should be allowed to remain. Plus, we have annoying orange at home. He's right here in our community with a...

As the person who wrote the MRP antag rules, I'm not going to permit antags to round remove over mere minor issues on MRP. Minor issues are nebulous at best and include antags being able to kill people for being excessively nice. It's trivial to bullshit a reason to simply kill someone and that triv...

I think you meant cum on...

'Tis done.

Floran retired a while back, so I'll take this over.

It's been nearly 5 years.

Don't do anything like this again.

You'll be unbanned in 5-10 mins.

I like the concept behind them because they provide a central watering hole to discuss bans, notes, complaints, admin conduct, the rules and many other things in a casual and relaxed environment. Individually I'd prefer peanuts stay open and people posting outside of the general scope of discussing ...

There's nothing wrong with it. Impersonating other players is already allowed in the antag rules and some antags, like Changeling and possibly even Comms Agent, revolve around the mechanic. Naturally, if you want to see how your idea works in practice then look at how often players impersonate and i...

We may or may not look at Rule 8 this term to see if its wording can be tightened up a little.

Rule 8 isn't for jokes like this. Rule 9 on the other hand...

Note deleted. Appeal resolved.

https://tgstation13.org/wiki/Rules The rule at play here is simple. Rule 8. 8. Erotic/creepy stuff is not allowed. No form of erotic roleplay is allowed on the servers, including things that could be construed as sexual by unwilling participants. But I'm also going to highlight another rule. Rule 9....

We'll have a response to this shortly (within 24hrs/within the ability for all 3 headmins to type +1 or -1 or change this). It's not like it needs 5 hours or log diving or a complex ethics debate or anything. Responses being drafted up in headmin channels and when the response is agreed we'll drop i...

People don't ignore command members because they might be antags. They ignore command members because the command member's interests don't align with the player's interests and, unlike real life, being fired isn't a real consequence due to the shift-based nature and is actually very difficult to do ...

That really speaks for itself. Thanks for participating.

Get well soon.

The difference being that one is considered OOC in IC, and one is not.

It's just a station trait. It doesn't need policy. I don't want to write policy for it. Nobody is going to read any policy anyway and it'll just cause annoying notes and bans and appeals. To me, nothing is different to normal IC conflict. If players want to mutually engage in some Skub tribalism wit...

As the writer of the rule, it wouldn't count as sabotage to directly upload kill everyone laws to the AI. The goal of the mass sabotage rule was to unlock meta-disallowed strategies on Manuel. The goal wasn't to create loopholes where antags could most efficiently depopulate the station. Go to LRP i...

The headmins have eyes on this complaint, but it seems like you're the architect or your own downfall. Here's my individual thoughts on the topic: If you don't like being mocked for cracking out your antique, stop doing it. Just because it's not globally against the rules to do it, doesn't mean that...

It's definitely noted on the admin side. Our players tend to play around the potential that something could happen. Even though the number of heretics that ascend is low and the number of traitor final objectives is low, part of the reasons they are low is because players know they exist and have ad...

Also I don't think you need me to say but I'm going to emphasise - this is your final chance. Please don't mess this opportunity to return as a non-evading player up. I don't think anyone is going to do this for you again.

I've unticked the boxes on a number of bans to see if they'll let you through now. Try logging on when you can. I'm gonna leave this appeal open for like a week or so, if you encounter any issues with logging on during the next week drop a screenshot of the ban here and I'll see if I can modify the ...

Nobody's jumped in to tell me not to so, looks like I'm unbanning you. Now we begin the wonderful process of figuring out which evasion bans you're triggering against and bopping them down 1-by-1.

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It benefits nobody when people get punished harder for telling the truth than for lying or misleading, even when that truth was a little bit late and basically a confirmed fact anyway. You took the chance and trusted me. True to my word, I'll do my best to give your new Morhilo ban appeal a fair hea...

Thanks for making a proper appeal. Cimika has long since retired and due to the storied and prolific nature of your evasion I'll take this over as one of the head admins. The original ban against Morhilo was well over 3 years ago now, so despite the constant evasion I'm probably going to accept this...

Unfortunately it's pretty much guaranteed that you're the account that was originally banned. You've got everything from shared IP addresses and ISPs to shared CIDs with them. To be clear, it's something I also considered in your previous appeal. What gave me pause was that a suspected Morhilo alt s...

It would be really funny if a non-antag wearing antag gear got valided under the "friendly antags are always valid" RP rule exception and it was ruled an IC issue because they looked like a friendly antag.

@headmin Can we do a QC ban on bingusdingus? I don't like them.

That's an interesting forum group they're a part of.

Looks like the Dendyplague just ruined their drama harvest this season. And after so much effort was put in by them to cultivate their crops. So sad.

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