/tg/Station 13

Celdur

I have a few things. First of all, it looks nice, good job. I like security in particular, them tiles I guess. But the whole station does feel like a reshufle of box. All the departments are in different places, but they all have the same sort of layout, with the bar being an exception. I don't mean...

Celdur

Atlanta-Ned wrote:
Celdur wrote: So I worked on it a little bit.
Link looks like it's not pointing to the right thing. I am sad.

fixed it, I think?

Celdur

I miss you Cledur pls return ;-; Sorry for dissapearing. I was sorta done with space station for a while, you know how it feels. I guess I also stopped mapping because people seem to have lost interest. I still am a bit burned out on playing space station, but I do want to finish this map. So I wor...

Celdur

Getting rid of traitor sec did all of those good things, but I think it also somewhat caused the AI to be as it is now. Since the AI now has no reason to distrust security, its easy to call on sec to do the AI's bidding. Couple that with everyone not wanting the AI to say no to anyone, and all it re...

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I miss the old AI that was more worried and skeptical of the crew rather than hunting for antags. Well, I don't miss the part where they would argue with the CE for 15 minutes before finally letting him into EVA to get metal sheets. But yknow, everything in moderation. What caused that shift in play...

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What you need is to make incentive for people to want more money. Because that will lead them to charging people for their services. If the chef doesn't leave all his foods out on the counter, people will have to pay for it or break in, at which point he could call security. Right now no one wants t...

Celdur

You missed quite a few rooms there. Ironically atmos is one them.
Also the hallways could use a few more.

Celdur

Mining might be getting an overhaul in the coming months with lavaland stuff. Yeah, but regardless of that, there will still probably be a small outpost for mining. And it'd be a shame if it was mining access only. How hardened are the connections? How big of a bomb do you need to have to completel...

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Triple post time. Finished the guts of the station. You can take a look here You can disconnect each segment from distro/filter through pumps in maint. All power and atmos lines enter and exit through the main entrance of a module, which means its very easy to disconnect. Probably will be a high tar...

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Went ahead and got started on the boring autism stuff, pretty happy with the layout right now. Finished placing pretty much all APCs and wired it all up. Added lighting to most areas too, probably needs a bit of tweaking but it didn't look too bad from a test walk around. That means atmos piping sta...

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My advice is not to make maint of maints sake, its not its own department.
It should just be inbetween areas for wire/piping and sneaking purposes only.

That said, design 1 is the most interesting I think.

Celdur

Right now, I'm not sure if modular station will ever be used by anyone aside from maybe a few test runs at best. That's not discouraging me from stopping anytime soon, but I know it discourages a lot of people from even trying. Maybe map rotation isn't the best way to go about it right now, since th...

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tldq Well said, man. I mean I don't like people calling the shuttle early on tator/gang/rev whatever rounds even when the shift feels like extended, because shit could still be brewing. But when the wizard is dead that's fucking it. There is 0 reason to go on. It is pretty fucking jarring though wh...

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Yeah, I figured that would be more practical too but I kinda want the surgery table to be centered.

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Update picture pretty please Sure thing, Here you go Added some more maint access. Added a few more things to the hallways to make it less empty feeling. (mainly on the starboard side) Fixed a few things I got feedback from. Made a few changes that you probably wont notice. Lemme know if there's an...

Celdur

The thing that bothers me the most about this station is the huge fucking hallways. Take some time to load up your map and walk around in it, it will feel huge and empty and awful. 3 wide really is wide enough, 4 at best. Other than that you have some neat ideas for some places. But some other place...

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Haven't worked on the map in a bit. I've been kinda busy with work lately, and holy fuck has it been hot so I did not have energy to do anything. Now that it's cooling down, I'll get to making some changes and maybe start to wire everything up. Wow, I didn't think I'd see a full map of this any time...

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Most vending machines should be free, like tool storage and the like. Food would probably be fine though. Also, department based budget could be neat. Heads could be in charge of their stations budgets, and some of the more crazy things like virus crates or PAs etc. could cost a lot of money. And th...

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Yeah, it would.
Until it becomes mandatory for nuke ops to teleport into the bridge and imprison everyone in their little corners with an emag.

Celdur

Well, I suppose you're right. It just that areas like atmos/engineering are often deserted. And even in Sci you're just locking down employees at best most of the time. If you lock down a whole department, you also lock down the lobby where people go to loiter and get stuff. I guess even then it wil...

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Adding manual valves to remove a module from the station distro could be a good idea too, and a effective counter to plasma floods. Yeah, I was planning on doing that. I had an idea of adding an SMES to every module as well, to have a sort of one way power flow, but that would probably be too many ...

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alright, done

Celdur

Prehaps wall it off from deep space? It seems like a very juicy target right now. Yeah, its an easy target for nuke ops now. But then again no gravity seems like kryptonite for nuke ops, so maybe it wont be a problem. On the other hand, the AI and comms seem a bit more secure from the usual nuke op...

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Medbay does have sleepers, they're just in the medical rooms instead of being out in the open. No one ever uses those rooms, so I figured I could tuck the sleepers away there and make healing like that a bit more personal. Besides, sleepers are pretty much useless now unless you upgrade them. And ye...

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Oh boy, here it is in full. Now would be the time to look over it and comment on what you think needs to change. Because once that process is over, I will start the wiring/piping phase and then it will be a huge pain to change anything. Here it is. Some minor notes: I put the Gravgen in between atmo...

Celdur

Here's a preview of what its looking like.
I just need to slam in the dorms/escape in the bottom left area, and add a few smaller rooms to the halls.
When that is done I'll post a full map and then I can start on the wiring/piping.

Celdur

I can already see people intentionally removing their arm so that they can't get cuffed by sec.
I'm guessing a straightjacket would still work?

Celdur

Just want to let people know that I'm still working on this.
Nothing really to show yet though, had to redo a lot of places to sort of reorient it with the station, and trying to make everything fit.
I should have just done an H from the start though, honestly. Looks a lot better.

Celdur

Well, personally I think an antags objectives are secondary to their main hidden objective of "making the round interesting", so antags should know that they aren't just limited to doing their objective and then pretending to not exist. That said though, objectives should motivate antags t...

Celdur

Make it so lit matches give a very faint light, and then run out after a short time. Same with lighters but they stay lit for a longer time.
Also, make it so you can light cigarettes with the igniter attached to a flamethrower, just cause its badass.

Celdur

Random limb cutting in combat should be pretty hard to do, and probably shouldn't work on the head. Aside from Esword, only fireaxe and maybe surgical saw come to mind. I like the idea of Esword cauterizing the wound. And as for stun and chop, you could either have it be anything up from glass, but ...

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I don't see the problem with camera alarms after the fact. I mean we talked a lot about how the AI shouldn't be hunting down antags but instead just focus on the victims of harm. Once the cameras go back and the AI gets an alarm, he can go and check the damage. Being able to constantly reset the cam...

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You could have a resource system elsewhere.
You could just have a machine in genetics that grows genetic material to use, something that needs some player maintenance/other resources.

Celdur

Limb removal should seriously fuck you in the ass and make getting around and doing stuff a lot harder, but don't make it too much of a hassle to deal with once you crawl your ass to medbay. The last thing you want it medbay's wild ride, because it completely disrupts the round when all the importan...

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I think the biggest part of what makes jobs so boring is that we've all done it a billion times. There is not much variety in how a shift goes for most jobs, you always start out the same and do mostly the same stuff, unless someone is doing something silly and you join in, but that doesn't happen t...

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That's the second time you left me out.
I am deeply offended.

Celdur

I always felt like open pipes should just leak out what's in them if they're exposed, but I dunno how big of an effect that would have on things.
Maybe an item that would stop a pipe from leaking would make that not a terrible disaster.
Anyway, this is getting off topic.

Re-rolling mask idea again.

Celdur

why wasn't I on there?

either way, re-rolling the mask idea.

Celdur

Respawn creatures should never be more interesting than human/lizards. Drones are a pretty good start, you can only really build shit and steal hats, its a fun way to kill time but you wouldn't want it over being alive. Golems are sort of on the edge, but they are not easy to come by so I'd say its ...

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A facemask. It will look like whatever your ID is, agent card included (if it's a non existent person it'll just be a random face.) It won't change your voice however, but you're not limited to gas mask using jobs when picking a disguise. Also, do agent ID cards fool sec huds when you enter a recogn...

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Whoops, that's what I get for using uguu when pomf is down.
Here it foreverish

DemonFiren wrote:Cross shape is only acceptable if you do a swastika.

Someone else actually suggested I'd do an iron cross.
should I really start appealing to nazis?

Celdur

The thought of that has come to mind before, but like allura said it wouldn't really be a good idea. As it is right now you already have a few options to sort of semi lock down a department, seeing as how hard of a time people have unbolting escape when some cunt locks it all down. Of course you'd n...

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Xhuis wrote:
Falamazeer wrote:OoooOoOoh!
Where do you want the drone dispenser to go? It's ready to put down but I need a place for it.

Robotics or AI sat would make the most sense.
Though I wonder, does emaging it do anything?

Celdur

Here it is. A lot of places are obviously work in progress, mainly the hall and other stuff I haven't shown off yet. But you can see how I'm running out of options with the hall, and the horizontal only hallway brings a lot of problems with it. The hall doesn't have to be a square necessarily, I ju...

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So the station is finally at a point where I could test it out a bit and wander around. And it turns out that taking everything away from the main hall makes the main hall very boring to go through, who knew. So I started adding a few things to it to make it more appealing, which was pretty successf...

Celdur

why not just do a map rotation? put on asteroid at peak hours for a few hours and then put it back on box. people can't really complain about muh box that way because it'll be there most of the day.

Celdur

A traitor device that "scrambles" cameras in a fairly large radius. (large enough so that the AI can't instantly tell where the center of that zone is. Alternatively and somewhat related; make it so the ling AI invisibility ability actually makes them 100% invisible to the AI(and perhaps a...

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Tunder wrote:http://cancer killing /tg/.com/i/s0RKx2DXkbuL

That's pretty damn good aside from background bird and ai nath sounding a bit too passive.

Celdur

Would it stop people from taking damage from bleeding/choking etc.?

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Oh yeah, you're probably right.
I'll be sure to change that.

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