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Gouty

lmwevil wrote: ps: yikes

Understatement.

Appeal they are referring to.

They agreed to unban you, why so hostile?

Gouty

Just found out that if an AI is in their shell a blob can spawn right next to the AI core and instakill it.

Gouty

I'm oranges and so is my wife

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I remember this incident. I am surprised that this was only a note seeing as it killed a lot of people.

Gouty

I have information that will lead to the arrest of Oranges

Gouty

I think the shuttle is only autocalled if there is no AI.

Gouty

Solid detective work, that's all I needed to hear.

Gouty

But where do you draw the line? A couple of days ago I was a scientist, went to say hi to the roboticist and they already have a welding mask down and says to me "head rev?" I asked why and they said "well why else would you come here at shift start?" I told them not to be so par...

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The majority of the time when an AI is killed/carded by someone teleporting there is no warning before hand, no way to anticipate, no way to counter, zero skill, timing or planning required and zero risk involved for the attacker. The AI can rarely even get a message off after the fact as it is so q...

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Wraiths, abductors, wizards and ninjas (there may be more I've forgotten) can all teleport directly onto the AI with little to no warning and kill/card/ERP etc. the AI with no way to defend. Is there anything that could stop this? Should anything be done to stop this? I think the ideal solution isn'...

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Considering that the OP is one of those people who are well known to ahelp literally everything in the hope that an admin will slip up and say “valid” instead of “resolved” I don’t have much hope for this policy being implemented While I appreciate the craic I think that's unfair, and also an uncon...

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I like the idea of a public ban log with a delay. Just keep cracking the whip on peanut posts. Lazengann, I thought that past behaviour was only ever used to justify an increase in ban time from the normal? If you are confident in the outcome you came to (even if it wasn't the one they wanted) why w...

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I get your points (except Malkraz ya memer), I wouldn't expect an admin to go "I just banned this guy for this" in OOC to a bunch of people that weren't involved, but when it's one complainant, or it's a particularly complicated ahelp where it isn't clear what conclusion the admin will com...

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It's come up a few times recently for me where I've ahelped something and I've either just been replied to with "resolved" or it has been closed with little to no discussion. I'm not talking about ambiguous "was it valid?" sort of ahelps either, I get that replies to that will be...

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I agree with oranges.

Edit: and imsxz

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Goodmin, thorough and eager. Often admining alone when I'm on.

Fiery hispanic! It's good to have passion, but don't get too emotionally involved and don't take things to heart, you'll burn out! Learn when things don't require immediate intervention.

Gouty

Never had anything but positive interactions with them. Thorough and professional.

Definitely promote

Edit: oh I thought of a criticism, only really minor but they close out the ahelp really really quickly, like before you can reply, most of the time I just want to say thanks.

Gouty

Byond account and character name: Gouty | Carlos Danger Admin: Optimumtact Time and Server incident occurred: 2018-05-11 09:22:08 Basil ROUND ID HERE: 87774 Detailed summary: AFAIK it was oranges but CitrusGender, Alexch2, STP and RandolfTheMeh were on at the same time, although things only started ...

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I investigated your issue, resolved it and rejected your follow up ahelps, you then made a complaint, had your complaint denied and apparently continue to hold a grudge about it. I wasn't talking about the complaint. In the complaint I said you did not intervene when someone was breaking the rules,...

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For once I almost entirely agree with a thread on here, the good and the bad. Competent, but the amount of discussion and the nature of some of the issues people have had with him should cause concern. I don't mind blunt and honest, but on my one interaction with them as a trialmin they were aloof, ...

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if it wasn't a serious infraction by oranges, and oranges did nothing wrong, then why is there a complaint I didn't say they did nothing wrong, that's the point of the thread, I think they could have intervened earlier when it was mentioned, even if it was asking them not to break rule 5 in future,...

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A person can reply, startled out of their x y z reason to be doing nothing because of the adminhelp noise, reply to the red name who can cut their fun away forever, then gradually feel unable to do anything else. It wouldn't be the first time a player has joined the game only to lose interest or de...

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we have no way of knowing if a player had something happen irl and forgot to log out, or if they are sleepy, or drunk, or even nervous That's all very well and good, but if they aren't moving, and they haven't pressed any buttons, and they haven't said anything ALL SHIFT I think you can say they ar...

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In the conversation in the next round I expressed that I would not punish an AI for playing passively unless someone actually involved in the round ahelped about it disregarding a lawful requested order. The issue wasn't that they were "playing passively" it's that they weren't playing at...

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Byond account and character name: Gouty (Carlos Danger) Admin: Optimumtact Time and Server incident occurred: 2018-04-26 06:35 Basil ROUND ID HERE: 87046 further conversation during 87047 During the round it had become clear that the AI (cacogen/K-9) was completely inactive. It had not responded to ...

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This is the thing, is it as cut and dry as that? What if they have a reason to be in there? What if you have the ability to stun and restrain? Also if they don't ask them to leave first(when appropriate) then they're shitty, go have em play elsewhere And I've seen people tell someone to leave, and w...

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So, it is well understood that if you enter a department illegally and refuse to leave, that the occupants may apply lethal force. It seems that players recently have gotten into the mindset that "lol you are trespassing my department therefore I can kill you" regardless of the situation a...

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oops. Chumbis status deserved

I should point out that they weren't just telling them they were beneficial and waiting for them to pick them up, they were feeding them.

Gouty

I like Magika

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Unbanned, be good

Gouty

Just wanted to embed this in case anyone missed it https://i.imgur.com/8N7l2sQ.png Can lower this to a few days (mostly wanted to see you appeal for posterity). But I still don't think you understand why what you did was wrong. Take some time to read the rules. Due to your responses here and in the ...

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Byond account and player name: Honkeador - Gray Tider I dont really think I dont deserve a ban, just wanted to say that I took full responsability from the events that were triggered by the tomatoes: So this is an appeal for someone else? See this thread My reply to them: Hi, just wanted to throw m...

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Hi, just wanted to throw my 2 pennies in. They were throwing foaming coniine and frost oil tomatoes about the place (mostly in primary hallway). The initial adminpm wasn't because I died, it was just because that's when I noticed what they were doing. At the time I thought; ok I could wait for anoth...

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Going out for new years, I may be some time

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Going out for new years, I may be some time

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Good chap. Patience of a saint.

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Ok, I removed the "by accident" part it's not relevant to your actions. The person that set them on fire was also noted at the time with a statement about the event. I'm leaving the part about 24 people being killed, again it's factually correct and relevant. I'll be honest, I don't rememb...

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Bluespace wrote:Remember that pods are available

Except Omega Station

PKPenguin321 wrote:what if 2 shuttles

Yes pleeese

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Meme shuttles are cool. But if you buy the hyperfractal gigashuttle, or the arena, or the asteroid, or that one that is full of plasma stuff (that might have just been an adminmeme though) people are going to die. Should you be allowed to do it as a non-antag? Discuss

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Lifted, don't do it again.

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Lifted, read the rules, be good.

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maybe it mostly because he hurt my fee fees by saying that he didn't think I had investigated/that he hopes he gets a different admin after I put in some pretty solid investigatorialness. Yeah that's probably not bannable too and I should get thicker skin. I know this isn't a ban appeal, and the ban...

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The reasons the OOC and Ahelps are slightly out of sync is because I didn't see the OOC at first (only a few minutes later when scrolling up to look at something else). Rest assured your comments in OOC came after I had suggested you stop. Yeah, my comment in OOC wasn't to mock, just to point out th...

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RustledJimm is correct,

Also can you not edit your posts so substantially after people have replied to them

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Ok, in that case, I should have just flat out pointed you to rule 6, however I thought that would have been less tactful. Never said you did a bad job investigating, just said that I felt that you were unprofessional. I [] hope that in the future somebody else will look into any matters that should ...

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I'm not sure what the complaint is here, you haven't made it clear. The situation was as follows (off the top of my head without looking at logs (I wrote this out before Okands handy post above)): HoP gave you access to toxins Scientist was next in line for the HoP You went to toxins and started re-...

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Wyzack wrote:isn't this like the third time in two weeks that a player has received a questionable ban after killing gouty in what seems to be reasonable escalation, only to have it lifted on closer examination?

Uh, no. Are you referring to this note appeal from 2 months ago?

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Except they killed me, not crit, I hit them once with a pickaxe after they attacked me a whole bunch, tbh i don't think I am so bothered by the killing me part it, I came at them with a pickaxe, it was more the whole beating me within a inch of crit for just trying slip them. And the area wasn't haz...

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Clown here I had just spent 20+ minutes clearing kudzu from arrivals to escape, I had radio'd multiple times to ask for the shuttle to be called, told people that escape was fucked because the kudzu had just mutated into a form that was destroying the windows and was fireproof. I saw you coming out ...

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The most I can see of this "rebellion" was them saying "alright, caps nuts, lock him up" which i think is a fair thing to say after you call for sec to be "purged". Actually I can't be arsed to argue the details with you, as seperate incidents these are probably ok. Fac...

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