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This is beautiful and I can't wait to give it a go. Absolutely stellar attention to detail.

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[EDIT]: Eh, actually, I probably should take a break from sec for a while. Might post a bit about this in a week or two. Eugh I hate cult.

Feel free to close or delete this for now. Thanks.

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On the offchance the boob who buys an asteroid shuttle survives to depart on it, if they got someone killed in the process then they're totally legit for a good lynching. At the very least cuff them loot them and leave them hogtied to a pipe in some god-forsaken part of maintenance. Hell it's probab...

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Yeah changeling is pretty trash and very poorly mixes stealth and grotesquely balanced powers. Pretty much everyone knows it. It'll probably never change though, so if you're sec the best thing to do is grab the gibber and put it by the cells, and if shit's crazy you just have to start putting reaso...

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Some do, some don't, but because there are only a small number of maint areas coded the mapper hasn't been able to cover all areas with that designation, it seems. It was a bit of a problem on meta so a handful of tiny areas aren't "actual maint", but it's much worse on here because of the...

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CMO has no RC for announcements in his office. The central offices at bridge thing looks visually neat but should be fluff - all ACTUAL stuff should be in the departments. Plenty of maint areas aren't shielded from radiation, so radstorms kill tons of people every shift when no one knows what is &qu...

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So a little about the case in question: As I recall I had just seen security and command staff execute cultists, if I didn't pass that on I apologise - but that was the crux of my argument for not letting the Captain in and it seems unlikely I wouldn't have mentioned this. Everyone knew the Captain ...

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Today I got adminbwoinked and told off because, as a warden, I detained and then executed someone. This person was running with a weldertank and welding tool, wearing greytider gear and a jacket and balaclava, a lit welder in their hand and an IED in their pocket. Someone matching their description ...

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Seems not to want any scrutiny of that J_Mad incident where PKP and Danno week-banned J_Mad from sec after what seems like clear ban-baiting from (?fellow admin) Pax . Why doesn't PKP want people to talk about the general issue of escalation and ban-baiting? Why lock that mention of this on the poli...

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So I just read a little of this thead: https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=10255 Byond account and character name: Akesson/dynamic name Banning admin: Dannno Ban type (What are you banned from?): sec roles Ban reason and length:43800 Changed to a week. Permabrigged an assistant fo...

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Brief tale of a shabby round. Not a complaint but more a potential catalyst for discussion. :popcorn: So I'm GROOSE the Asimov AI. I see cult stuff and shout it out to warn the crew. Security and the chaplain are killing cultists in the corridors, the Captain demands to be let in to change my laws f...

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Saw a long and chaotic xeno round on this today, it was excellent. The space and attention-to-detail are both great for really chaotic rounds with large populations.

Look forward to seeing this more, it really is great.

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I feel this particular close-up, as it were, captures the spirit of the thing more compactly. The meteors and such were so ruinous that the fire from the passing Ash Drake hung around for ages due to the lag-compensation system or something: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/858120/Static/SS13/Oth...

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Here's a full-station screenshot of the last round on Sibyl - I call it: "Recall", "We Can Rebuild".

Click Here for Full Size (7700*5900 pixels) [img]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com ... .png[/img]

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One of the better ones from back when, as I recall:

1) Always be honking
2) Never be not honking
3) Honk

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I did mention some suggestions in my feedback, to clarify: Make all clockcult stuff turn to dust on non-station z-levels Make drone production harder and drones weaker Make it possible to destroy portals with bombs Speed up summoning - it takes ages even with no opposition and I've never seen it cou...

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Now that the novelty has worn off, Ratvar is clearly more or less the same as cult but more OP earlier on. As with cult, either you catch it really early, call shuttle right away and force it through against recallers, or the station gets rapidly wrecked by boring OP stuff and constructs. Neither of...

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I've been bwoinked a few times in the process of dunking them, perhaps it's just admins trying to keep abreast of things.

Each bwoink warms the cockles of my heart as security, though. Usually means I'm doing the right stuff.

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>Be HoS on EffStation >Comms: "Some people have all access" >Shit not even got to my office yet and all's gone to pot >Gear up doublequick the tide are probably on their way >Yup dead on, some greytider Raymond Magor tries to rush the armory with all-access >Shoot them in face with riot sh...

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I know what causes the issue, it was just odd that it appeared only recently where previously things had been fine. I hadn't noticed anything relevant map or SMES change. The MiniSat grid is meant to be independent so you can't powersink it and the station easily at the same time without first conne...

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Regarding the AI power issue, I don't really know where it came from, things had been fine for ages.

Will fix it sometime soon anyway.

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Here's the latest progress with atmos and engineering deskfronts, EVA, and escape, botany integrated into bar.

Hope it's not getting too big to stay relatively functional at lowpop.

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Bit more progress if it interests anyone:

Not sure what power source to use, tesla/singulo, supermatter shard, TEG (though I hear it's broken, and supermatter works by heating gas for TEG).

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Will look into changing a few MetaStation things in due course. In the meantime looking at a Mini-Station sort of thing, designed for ~20 pop : Captain, Lieutenant, 3xSec, 3xSci, 3xMed, 3xEng, 3xCargo, 3xCiv. If anyone has any thoughts on how best to do this, do fire away. If anyone's interested, th...

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I think you can make any heater a freezer or vice versa by screwdrivering it open and wrenching it, or something like that. Regarding the station and MiniSat having separate powernets, it's intentional - but you can easily connect the two, if you want to powersink the lot or recharge the MiniSat or ...

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So did anyone work out why this still happens?

Basil's got some tasty 5 second lagspikes once a minute or so, disconnect every few minutes, largely unplayable right now.

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PKPenguin321 wrote:i do see the problem with security validhunting, people who cry about people who cry about security looking for criminals are silly.

Hang on, what, you think there's something wrong with sec validhunting? Am I being memed at here?

PKPenguin321 wrote:we should remove security

Oho, right, I am being memed. Good one.

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Submitted a minor update on GitHub , if it interests anyone MetaStation v41J (11/05/2016): [img]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/858120/Static/SS13/MetaStation/16-05-13%20MSv41J%20Full%20-%20800.png[/img] (Image of the station, click here for full-size) MetaStation v41J Changelog: Added extra gro...

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Boo, people should do the right thing and get rid of this antagsec-lite monstrosity that got added for the luls.

Things were pretty fine the way they were, all this antag-Det does is just make sec harder. I blame Kor for merging it.

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Sound and lighting systems seem great, the atmosphere's amazing, the map is lovely. I really like the perspective with the walls, too.

Goodness me we gotta have whatever we can from those sprites and stuff, I want to be able to map this well.

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Removing antagsec was a great move that improved the game a lot, this is just a step back towards that and will probably be a bit shit.

Not sure what exactly the reason for merging it was, but I imagine it'll be reverted sooner or later.

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So HG's gone on a bit of a mad one because Malk arrested them / because HG saw Malk arrest someone?

What a boob, someone take away their wiki privileges or something.

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I checked box and both stations have 4 toxins canisters, seems normal. But sure, I'll replace one of the empty canisters with an O2 one to match the 4 toxins canisters.

Should be an airlock painter in art storage already, but I'll definitely add some painting/canvas stuff.

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Is there going to be another balance update? It's pretty profoundly shitty at the moment, gets released almost every round and just kills swathes of people, without being seen, heard, or even remotely counterable for the vast majority of people. You should read a bit of deadchat sometime, people rea...

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Looks like a meme insta-death-or-close-to-it traitor addition that's pretty destructive and doesn't make much sense. Who coded this and how'd it get past maintainers? As amusing as a surprise release of 4.6 quadrillion Pa superheated gas from a canister is, it's pretty stupid. Would be neat to see s...

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Weekly reminder that virtually everyone thinks it's awful, and though the chance appears to have been brought down a little it still happens plenty on lowpop.

Remov changeling 2k15 it's cancer and bizarre it's been in this long.

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Just a quick feedback thread regarding the new(ish) changeling ability biodegrade which Xhuis added back in September . I saw a ling today which murderboned swathes of the crew and got an ERT sent after it that I was part of. It regenerated from death and biodegraded out of handcuffs very quickly at...

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I thoroughly enjoy the novelty of Dream and the way it changes up the way people play.

The variety has even made Box feel less stale, I think it's been one of the best changes in ages.

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Yeah, I never really see station crew use bombs. Wizard rounds sound like the ideal time because they're stupid meme bollocks that no one cares about anyway.

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Thanks, good to hear. Just submitted a small update: MetaStation v41I (01/11/2015): [img]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/858120/Static/SS13/MetaStation/15-11-01%2016-19%20MSv41I%20Full%20-%20800.png[/img] (Image of the station, click for full-size) Added lethal shotgun ammo locker and rubber buc...

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I find that parasites seem a lot more balanced with the recent changes Kor made, especially permadeath to dust if killed.

People seem to have a better idea of how to deal with them now and they seem to work pretty well.

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Poor HoP facing off against a crowd of hostile clown NPCs who had killed the warden outside: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/858120/Static/SS13/Other/15-10-31%20Hostile%20Clown%20Horror.png Building a meteor shield to protect escape from horrifying halloween pumpkin meteors: https://dl.dropboxus...

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Steelpoint wrote:Making it visable akin to water will still make it powerful, as people will attempt to walk over the 'water' and in fact end up slipping themselves right into the comforting embrace of a energy sword.

Very much this. Seems fairly reasonable to me.

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I just noticed that the AI foyer turret control console, does in fact not control the turrets in the AI foyer. Looks like Jordie worked out what went wrong and has fixed it. More detail here . It's probably just me but I find the visual "clutter" on MetaStation a bit much. The copious amo...

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CPTANT wrote:I just noticed that the AI foyer turret control console, does in fact not control the turrets in the AI foyer.

This had only started recently, not sure why exactly. Will look into it.

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Takeguru wrote:Gang won by placing the dom on the AI Sat exterior because the place was called "Hallway"

Fix that shit

Looks like a code issue, more info here.

Think I'll remove autorifles with the next update though, would welcome any thoughts on that.

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Anyone who thinks currentling is "too much of a threat" is bonkers. It's still only a fraction of the strength that paraling was and all its killing tends to be really loud, obvious, and leave cloneable corpses behind. You have to put in a lot of effort to succeed as a currentling compare...

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Looked like there was a button and intercom under the right cryo tube.

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I very much dislike changeling myself, and I feel it's only gotten a lot worse in recent time with a line of buffs and new abilities. Once again we seem to get long dull murderboner rounds with lots of recalling. It's not rare to see changelings survive or thrive with impunity despite a well armed c...

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Are there MedHUDs at medbay, or are they just somewhere I've not seen them?

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