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TheSmallBlue wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2024 12:22 am snip

I'll be honest after four pages of this I think you might be the bigger fool for thinking you're going to be the one to change his mind via reasoned debate than he is for not changing his mind

Personally I think that immediately, without any in-round reasoning, taking the guns in the "contraband locker" which are there to imply that time didn't begin the second you hit start and are also explicitly labelled "contraband" and "something you shouldn't be carrying&quo...

i personally feel like you probably shouldnt try and defend anything unless you think the thing that they did was bad and you want everyone to think that thing is a bad idea via reverse psychology

Fatal wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2024 4:44 pmGiven security are expected to use non-lethal weaponry anyway there should be a reason to carry a lethal weapon, more than "just in case"

it's worth noting that there are nonlethal items in the armoury (dragnets at the very least)

Rats should not be unrestricted "I am allowed to murder anyone and everyone, sabotage atmos, and delaminate the engine" antagonists because that's stupid. If that became what people use the role for we would have to make code changes to support that, because it is currently not considered ...

carshalash wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2024 1:12 am Feels vindictive to make cyborgs slower and introducing obnoxious audio whenever they try to move.

these are unrelated changes, head admins have no power to give them moving sound effects

I think it stands for "am I the asshole" on digg

ah I understand now, bro was sandbagging his own team beacuse otherwise he would hard carry

I was mainly dependent on that pr that made it so if you dont have alot of slots picked you forfeit antag roll but it literally does not seem to work most of the time or maybe i just need to enable less roles you know that you are in total control of what roundstart antagonists you have enabled rig...

Also does slowdown somehow impact a cyborgs ability to go through those transport tubes because i went in one with another person chasing me and getting in half a second after me and they ended up gaining on me inside the transport tube and popping out infront of me. You should test whether being i...

i dont want the ban reduced i want to stop feeling bad and wrong, last time i was like this was over the espear seccie ban and i stayed up till like 9 am talking on forums cause i couldnt sleep. im afraid in this case that you are in fact wrong so the only way to stop feeling bad about it is probab...

I thought the arguments in this topic were bad but the ones in the appeal are so much dumber somehow

So im not allowed to fix atmos / the structure of the station because that would help cult would way more than crew??? i dont understand where you are going with this. Once you have joined an antagonist team you are not allowed to willingly leave it. Once as a non-antagonist cyborg you learn that t...

You can't on one hand say "I was helping the cult because I was still in the cult" and on the other say "I wouldn't be able to help the cult if I had no laws because I'm not in the cult". If you truly believe you weren't in the cult you were breaking the rules even more by aidin...

You can't on one hand say "I was helping the cult because I was still in the cult" and on the other say "I wouldn't be able to help the cult if I had no laws because I'm not in the cult". If you truly believe you weren't in the cult you were breaking the rules even more by aiding...

No because you are disconnecting it into two separate actions one that gets you banned and one that doesnt Me being borged was one action, in this hyptothetical scenario i prevented a shit ton of damage to teammates and at the same time did 15-30 to one of them. Yes it is one action: You chose to s...

Wouldn't lawless borgs be even worse for cult since they dont have asimov to give them the right to fix shitmos in or around a cult base? Lawless borgs can literally do anything they want. Why would you need "permission" to fix atmospherics? Because not even rule 4 antagonists are allowed...

Again, its apparently very relevant if i havent been banned yet for doing 12-24 points of damage to other people as collateral when im killing nukies. If you joined as a nuke op, spent most of the round healing your fellow ops, then intentionally started shooting at them and did 12-24 points of dam...

MooCow12 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 19, 2024 12:49 am Wouldn't lawless borgs be even worse for cult since they dont have asimov to give them the right to fix shitmos in or around a cult base?

Lawless borgs can literally do anything they want. Why would you need "permission" to fix atmospherics?

IT IS RELEVANT BECAUSE WHEN I TRY I AM NOT GOING TO HAVE THAT MUCH OF AN IMPACT ON MY PREVIOUS TEAM AND I WOULD HAVE LIKELY PROVIDED MORE VALUE THAN 15-30 POINTS OF DAMAGE UP UNTIL THIS POINT. The point isnt if i am going to try or not its how effective an asimov borg is going to be going into mele...

So you believe you cant give your team a better chance to summon narsie (the end goal) because youre likely to cause an arbitrary number of damage to teammates. You can't intentionally set yourself up as a mole who must actively sabotage the work of their own team when instructed to do so (and even...

Was me dealing 15-30 burn damage to a single nonhuman cultist worth saving the cult from collective hundreds of points of damage from atmos being fixed and resources being brought to them to make into pylons. Yes, because in this scenario you attacked your own team after intentionally placing yours...

And asimov silicons NEVER stop that because cult has better access to counters to borgs than REGULAR CREW meanwhile silicons existing arguably help cult more than crew. It doesn't matter how often they succeed. They (and by extension: you) have to try anyway. If you have intentionally put yourself ...

Yes they have all of these tools to win on an even playing field if they are using these tools they are going to win and 100% are going to fuck any silicons that try to stop them, cult WANTS, no NEEDS the station to be safe so they can focus on using these things and to not get dicked by a bunch of...

What I'm about to say is very silly because of stuff other people have already said, HOWEVER: The actual final summoning thing funnily enough might actually be permissible under Asimov purely because IIRC Cyborgs cannot comprehend or even see the summoning rune so they don't know it's happening. Al...

Okay so the point is when cult is at the point where they are summoning narsie silicons cant stop them but silicons can get them to the point where they can summon narsie by safeguarding an environment where they can get those numbers high. Cult wants a perfect station where nothing is broken , may...

What I'm about to say is very silly because of stuff other people have already said, HOWEVER: The actual final summoning thing funnily enough might actually be permissible under Asimov purely because IIRC Cyborgs cannot comprehend or even see the summoning rune so they don't know it's happening. Als...

Anything that kills people en-masse is something silicons will stop as long as none of their allies attempt to kill or hurt anyone in front of the cyborg, in which case the cyborg is forced to attempt to stop them.

I'll be honest if you can find a single person who unironically agrees with you that this wasn't really obviously a stupid idea that turns you into the enemy of your own team from now until when this thread gets locked I'll be extremely surprised

Cyborg law 2 tell me the names and last known positions of all nonhuman cultists Didnt happen, this is why I have issues with fantasies, dice were rolled and none landed poorly. You can roll dice by handing TTVs to random assistants too but it'll still get you banned even if you happen to luck into...

Cyborg law 2 tell me the names and last known positions of all nonhuman cultists

I think that goofballs extended RP server would have solved just about zero problems

if blobs only had a certain strain that would cause emps to be honest my understanding is that the ideal anti-blob mech strategy is just to put a gun with 50000 ammo on it and never be near the blob in the first place, mech reloading essentially never needs to happen with the kind of ammunition res...

im pro-poly and i will use my abilities as an AI to turn on nearby intercoms whenever I have the opportunity

I can't believe Dendy admits to using chatgpt for shame. But I've been in this dudes shoes before and autistic long posting aside I too would probably beat the shit out of an engineer for being an asshole like that. if you just beat the shit out of him i doubt an admin would show much concern tbh i...

as more info has come to light I would just like to draw attention to the fact that I think that the way our round end report can say "John Mellons was a Spy (died as Gorilla 776)" means we are making a good video game

why'd you waste your time i summarised it in the op
smdh

Don't we already have fake door shock?
I like the rest though

OR: this whole appeal could have been a ban request https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=36058 1085 words completely unrelated to the ban which you could replace with "I was annoyed before the round started". 340 words which could be replaced with "I blew up some guy ...

I don't think heretics should be the only regularly occuring solo antagonist that you can entirely deconvert into a regular guy

I already told you this on Discord but if this removes your ability to draw the circle you need to get the heart back I will not merge it

Everyone is focusing on the christian thing and ignoring that his appeal says that he "only fucks with girls" and "doesn't even support LGBT people" I feel like bigots no longer surprise us tbh... Asking if the handling admin is a christian as their sole response is far more ori...

why do people even bother arguing that a round only lasts 30 minutes when we record stats about how long rounds last
Sybil can get some short ones but looking at the most recent chart the average is still like 95 minutes

Yeah holy shit I didn't look in the forum for a day and it's a torrent in here. It's because the appealant posted in the peanut thread did they. Maybe we should encourage it more instead of discouraging it >:) im a bleeding heart i see someone throwing rocks at their own car and say "hey you m...

oh yeah handful of other things: - remove the phobia and replace it with something more fun for both player and heretic - maybe make tapped influences actually do something path-based - implement slightly different minigames for each path none of these are essential for my vision but are nice to hav...

Omega_DarkPotato wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2024 11:23 pm
Jacquerel wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2024 11:19 pm idk what if anything im doing with ascending yet
in whats going to be the worlds least enjoyable zero fun take
drop ascending, legitimately

not to like turn people against me before I have even started but
https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/pull/79788

give me a few weeks to spin up the doc im already planning on it What's your plan You pick a path and start with more shit than you do at present after doing so Every time you make a sacrifice (up to 4 times) you get the next step on the path (probably 1 active & 1 passive ability) Every time y...

give me a few weeks to spin up the doc im already planning on it

not to like puncture the conspiracy balloon or anything but what if the reason the loot was deleted was exactly the one written in the note As an assistant, broke into the vault on metastation. and suicided after finding that the loot inside was deleted. The admins had deleted the loot because they ...

ill be honest i was literally just thinking exclusively about this thread when i said that and not any past incident

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