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Why is it needing to be replaced in the first place? Nobody has answered this question in the week that this PR has been open. Why it's better to remove cloning instead of reworking it, and it seems that we won't get an answer. When it comes down to it it seems the tough questions are the ones that...

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Lots of people here saying "if you play a static, you should expect metagaming". Why is this relevant to a discussion of how things should be?

Similar question for statements like "it's a drawback"

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devil mode

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code is never fully deleted, it's in the git history. Leaving it in master has an active maintenance cost.

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Timonk wrote:Wow I can't believe arathian just fucking died

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Is the experimental cloner antithetical to medical content? I thought it was quite cool.

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Regen coma is neat because it has both upsides and downsides imo. It has to be strong to be worth the early planking.

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Lazengann wrote:I shit talked the movement speed nerfs when they happened but the game is definitely better for it now. I think few people would say the game was better when everyone ran like sonic.

That was config, right?

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naksu + cyberboss

rest in bits

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Imagine if your doctor was elected from the general population by people who were angry at the old doctor's diagnoses

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My favourite part is this:

maintainer tyrant wrote:That's a strawman and you know it.

brave player wrote:Maybe, but it doesn't make what I am saying any less correct.

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Honestly terribly phrased, and seems like a bad rule but it's hard to tell under the ambiguous wording

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coders doing work

What ya paying

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Just being in the discord isn't proof that he took part in the pedo stuff

github complaining is his true crime

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as a centrist I demand there is a poll as to whether we should have a poll

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It's a harsh way of putting it, but giving more guns isn't really an interesting change in gameplay. This game really needs more non-combat content.

looking forward to the other departments, though

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TheMythicGhost wrote: Not the point, stop strawmanning.

lol redditor

anyway, as to the original point: player reactions to change don't really have anything to do with whether it's "bullshit" that lack of interesting changes drives people to greytide, it's just giving another cause of it

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snip Planner, I recommend you read the sentence again. The point of that 'autistic rant' is to highlight that there wasn't just one person that made major new changes, and 90% of the community didn't hate all major new changes nor the people involved in those changes. Fair enough, I still don't thi...

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TheMythicGhost wrote:
oranges wrote:stuff about one specific person
autistic rant about individual changes

lol reading comprehension fail

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This wouldn't be a problem if other jobs were fun. Veteran players keep playing assistant because its more fun running around doing whatever the fuck you feel like than doing most jobs on the station. Blocking people from being assistant means they will just keep up the same behavior but as more im...

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go full eclipse phase and have mental traumas that are built up and up each time you legitimately die and get crammed into a cheap sleeve, up to and including complete personality shift (having some random other ghost take over your body) or other !!FUN!! things that make death something you would ...

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Just to clarify, I personally don't have any strong feelings on hygiene either way. As to thread topic, maintainers are accountable in that if they do indeed fuck up the game there are a multitude of other codebases for players to move to/MSO to switch to. It's not as though they can just wantonly d...

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To be fair, those two most recent polls were by nervere, and the hygiene one is being ignored so not necessarily the best examples

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the fact that all stuns are cleared when the disable cooldown ends is pretty annoying. I can't disable someone and follow up with a stun baton because they just get up right away, I have to keep disabling them if I want to cuff. That should have been fixed by the PR already merged, as long as the s...

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Shadowflame909 wrote:4dplanners Dragging change.

I actually can't tell if it's deliberate by this point

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Mentioning the issue tracker number is either disingenuous or shows a lack of understanding. The vast majority of old issues are either not bugs now or never were.

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Just to be clear, in that situation manual cloning shouldn't work either.

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'd also add that most non-severe traumas should self heal even without treatment, very slowly, so that medbay visits are only required for meaningful injuries rather than every time you burn your finger with a lighter Yeah, that's probably the direction I'll go in if this receives sufficient support.

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Posting here to gauge interest: I believe the current state of medbay is extremely lame, and stasis beds haven't really made much of an improvement. The main problems as I see them are: 1) Overreliance on chemistry. Worse, obsolescence by chemistry - most of the time, a chemist is just a better doct...

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Event lore on point, goodmin

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Point of clarification: isn't it true he didn't have the energy gun by the time the pka was taken? The OP says that the clown took the energy gun too.

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Just to clarify, those ninjas were randomly spawned by event pumping. Later on an announcement was made refluffing them as megafauna killers, but this was not the original source. Further, I was the one who both started the fight against and dealt the most damage to colossus, so to say they killed n...

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Needs to be way easier for it to end when the station aren't winning, admin had to forceend the round

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leaving aside that surgery is consensual and good borgs never make mistakes, I worry this will lead to another janiborg-style situation.

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Shadowflame909 wrote: Nope! It just auto-scans whoever's in the cloner! Ignoring all the data entirely!

Submit bug report if true, but I'm inclined to chalk this down to user error.

(Unless you're talking about scanning live people, in which case lol)

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"Slightly" reduced stats lmao

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zxaber wrote:you just bash it down with an extinguisher

genuinely 1v1 me smh

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Because what everyone says after being sent to ninja jail is "wow, what an interesting mechanic".

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If I shoot a random emitter beam down the hallway it only MIGHT hit someone, perfectly compatible with asimov imo

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Also make monkeys have a 1/1000 chance to start monkey mode when killed to add in the lovable antagspawner aspect

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science players are whiny bitches and mechs should be removed from the game :^) Seriously though, how is this a discussion? Hitting mech might set it on fire, so don't do it. It being "rng" shouldn't make a difference. If you find it annoying because following laws means your options are ...

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Gitban any coder who doesn't submit one bugfix per day

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As to the gamemode: Do you not think that having the core always spawn at arrivals might make this mode dangerously map dependant? If I make a map with science near to arrivals, the balance would be totally thrown off. How will you prevent snowballing? You've made sure it can't be summarily killed e...

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I believe releasing miasma would cause too much atmos lag for just that bit of flavour.

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Technically you can't find a replacement nuke screwdriver on station as far as I'm aware.

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I'd prefer it if they could provide more feedback after ahelps rather than just ghosting sometimes, otherwise still good + active

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I love toronto

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13 tc nukeop item for a head roundstart, not like it being stam damage is much of a disadvantage

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Antag token for when I due to meteors please

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My problem with it isn't spawning xenos, which is rare, but how fucking huge it is and how it takes up space that could be used by more exciting ruins

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