/tg/Station 13

EagleWiz

Three things come to mind about older /tg/ station that I think have kind of been lost - it was unpredictable, devil-may care, and there was always a story. Things would go wrong fast, there were all sorts of blatantly imbalanced and wacky things you could do with the game systems if you knew how, a...

EagleWiz

I don't see any problem with traitor CE, or that much problem with traitor RD and CMO - the real issue IMO is traitor HoP, who basically has legitimate all access. Theft missions? Easy. AI subversion? Not that suspect. Access to security areas? As long as the warden doesn't make a fuss, yes. Close s...

EagleWiz

How am I supposed to know who to lynch when I get a cough?!! Honestly this by itself is a pretty good reason to roll virologists into doctors; right now if a megavirus gets loose it's pretty obvious who did it, and the virologist has to change/hide their identity for the rest of the round to not ge...

EagleWiz

this is not what refactor means. refactoring is improving HOW code does something without changing WHAT that code does, AKA the mecha refactor recently just rewrote all the mechas to be vehicles, but there is nearly no differences at all to the players themselves Player here, there's a difference. ...

EagleWiz

Testmerges

EagleWiz

Per rule 4 if the assistant in question were deemed to be "acting like an antag" this would not be grounds for a ban, as anyone acting like an antag is valid for permanent round removal thus If this ban/note is upheld it will be precedent that stealing the HoS's gun and firing a few shots ...

EagleWiz

Wondering why half the station is wearing masks right before a floating shadow monster explodes you with his mind

bring back shadowling

EagleWiz

Good music manuelmin

EagleWiz

So, the antag had a target, the target was generally in a moderately populated area, and the antag used a area of effect traitor item to kill his target and 3 bystanders? That seems like exactly the reason those items exist. Would this have been a problem even if the antag did use a bomb, assuming t...

EagleWiz

wesoda25 wrote:At this point its cannon that the detective I demoted will kill me

Any detective who gets demoted and does anything other then immediately going on the run to try to solve the big case while staying one step ahead of security deserves a bwoink.

EagleWiz

This says more about shotguns then it does ash drakes. Pretty sure you can take out just about anything if you hit it with 5 shotgun blasts.

EagleWiz

] var/welcome_message = "<span class='warning'>ALL PAST LIVES ARE FORGOTTEN.</span>\n\ <b>You are a positronic brain, brought into existence aboard Space Station 13.\n\ As a synthetic intelligence, you answer to all crewmembers and the AI.\n\ Remember, the purpose of your existence is to serve ...

EagleWiz

The problem isn't PDAs (although the UI could use some improvement), the problem is tablets. Does anyone actually use them?

EagleWiz

This doesn't just discourage murderboning, it discourages interesting antag play and picking jobs that aren't braindead easy to achieve antag objectives with. lolnah

EagleWiz

I'm not sure why he wants to be a TG mod considering his idea of what the server should look like fits with yog much better. Can't say I'm in favor of passing someone who wants to push the server culture in a direction I and most of the playerbase consider worse

EagleWiz

It does seem like there is more demand for MRP servers then there is space in the MRP server - that is, Manuel is frequently at capacity. And the other, what, 4? LRP servers range from highpop newbie server to lowish midpop to zero pop. Right now Manuel has 50/50 people, Sybil has 4 and Sybil 2 (I'm...

EagleWiz

Boris wrote:
Tarchonvaagh wrote:
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EagleWiz

There's a handful of problem spells (summon magic is always stupid, summon events is almost always bad, maybe summon guns but only because of the other problem spells, blood demon should require higher population, etc) but a good wizard round is pretty fun. I don't see why it would require removal o...

EagleWiz

ATHATH wrote:Are circuits currently oppressive on Hippie? If not, is that not valid evidence that circuits have been fixed to be fun and have less balance/powergaming issues?

do rounds even last long enough for anyone to make anything there?

EagleWiz

I think the general playtime is far more important here then the departmental playtime - if a head doesn't know how to do certain things that fall under the departments duties, its kind of annoying, and not even that if one of the department members is willing to do it and the head is able to commun...

EagleWiz

There is obviously some player judgement required as to what is considered a "dangerous area", but I don't think there's much of a problem with how the rule has been enforced in edge cases. I have some nitpicks with the wording and some examples ("hey AI, leme in the Bomb Manufacturin...

EagleWiz

The admins have always been allowed to intervene in the round, especially when the round went on for 45 minutes and had a single antag who spent most of the round not doing anything antagonistic. If an admin messes with peoples antag rolls right after they spawn, or consistently targets the same pla...

EagleWiz

It's a trade off between whether or not we want to cater to our returning players or our new players. A similar thing can be said about newer players, if they stop playing because they don't get early antag rolls, perhaps they shouldn't be playing either? Ultimately, I don't think there is an easy ...

EagleWiz

The carbon mob thing is a little confusing, and I've heard multiple things from multiple admins when I ahelped the issue. just for the sake of fun I think the best policy is to not try to kill them, and maybe say some disproving things about humans who are killing carbon simple-mobs, but not actuall...

EagleWiz

RIP AND TEAR, UNTIL IT IS DONE

EagleWiz

The rainbow makes it easier to tell different greyshirts apart, and probably reduces greyshirt solidarity.

EagleWiz

Why would you need station positive events? If the station is in good repair and people are alive, its probably gonna keep going, if the station isnt in good repair or a bunch of people are dead its not gonna get fixed. The only event I can think of that would matter is a station positive event afte...

EagleWiz

Drones were great, and removing them because a few idiots cant grasp obvious rules was stupid. Gate them behind time played like AI or Borg, apply a month ban immediately on suspicious drone behavior, and a year drone-ban or something if they do it again, you'd think that would weed out the people b...

EagleWiz

I've been informed by an admin before that a player running to the ruin as an ashlizard, teaming up with a spawned player controled drone, and taking them to the station via the mining station shuttle wasn't an actionable thing. This ruin is basically only ever used for self-antaging.

EagleWiz

On the subject of point production, Goonstation has a cloner mode that gives Genetics research points at the cost of cloning slower. Adding that to medbay for point generation would be nice. That just seems like an easily deniable way to dick over someone elses round. It might work for goonstation,...

EagleWiz

I don't think you should try to kill a lizard after getting caught and borged, even if he was your target - once you get caught and borged the idea is you lost, you were removed from the round, and you were put in a borg to give you a chance to basically play again and help the station, not to pick ...

EagleWiz

Objective: techwebs becomes the way to introduce all new and advanced toys for departments without having to rebuild the same points systems over and over, new jobs can easily be setup to work with this system by simply giving value to the outputs of the job, departments are incentivised to do thei...

EagleWiz

Possibly outside the scope of this thread but repeat rounds suck for everything other then traitor IMO, and tweaking the RNG to make duplicate rounds less common would be a welcome change for most.

EagleWiz

so basically spawn a PAI or two right next to the MULEs?

EagleWiz

The problem with this, other then someone having to code it and get it approved, is that IIRC the difference between a good power setup and the Full Optimal Power Production Setup is huge - so if the basic engine gave one stack over an entire round, the Crazy Power Production Setup would give enough...

EagleWiz

stop thinking of techwebs as a scence job and you'll start to understand our thinking. Scientists have plenty to do with xenobio, toxins and circuit construction. One scientist has plenty to do with xenobio, toxins, and circuit construction - he gets to do xenobio, a fun job with plenty of ways to ...

EagleWiz

does deconstructing the SM so that it explodes and someone has to call the shuttle count?

EagleWiz

Yeah what kind of codebase would do something like hide super broken chemistry recipes from the players. Real shit move. Broken chem recipes are another issue altogether, but yes, it kinda is? A better codebase would treat broken mechanics as a problem to be fixed in the code. This server tends to ...

EagleWiz

Colossus still has gamebreakingly powerful loot and it just takes a semi intelligent player to understand how to abuse it wont ever spoil how that works though because it'd remove the only fun thing the colossus has you know, the attitude of "you're all idiots for not figuring out how to abuse...

EagleWiz

Techwebs are bad and the points aren't even that useful, just admit that its a failed system.

EagleWiz

It's not more difficult to defeat than bubblegum, legion or the miner. It's almost more paragraphed than the drake and its shots always follow the same pattern (sans shotgun.) The colossus is the least killed megafauna. It spawns at about the same rate as bubblegum, but according to statbus is kill...

EagleWiz

I'll just admit that on rare occasion when I've been really bored or in a murderboney mood I'd join as a greyshirt to roll for antag, and then immediately suicide to roll for ashlizard or the hopes of a quick admin-antag-spawn when I don't get antag. Its not a regular thing, but its a thing, and I'm...

EagleWiz

Do tell, is your issue that you believe the colossus is not more difficult to defeat (without silly shenanigans like golems or a magic staff) then the other megafauna, or is there some other objection to making the colossus less difficult? Can someone look up the stats for what percent of players ha...

EagleWiz

Agree that the current medical system is awful, and that while we might not want to go fully in the baymed direction there are plenty of ways we could make things more complex, which would make the medbay jobs less of a joke and would make combat less consequence free.

EagleWiz

Obviously the only way to fix this miscarriage of justice is to give goof the headmin slot that just opened as compensation.

EagleWiz

For the streamer there isnt much obvious benefit, but for anyone watching you can see what the round type is quick, identify antags on the streamers team, identify antags who killed the streamer, recover the corpse, etc. And most of the things someone could do with the meta knowledge of the stream a...

EagleWiz

I'm as annoyed by unfun or suspiciously generous TC trades as anyone, but I don't see how someone trading all their TC to spawn something on lavalands that would spawn itself half the rounds anyway is an issue unless by lavalands you mean on the base or shuttle

EagleWiz

The only times I've seen someone get in trouble for not trying objectives were team modes (asshole nuke ops/cultists), or a mod spawn more threats if the traitors don't do traitor stuff. I guess some mods might punish a friendly wizard with events like an ert or another wiz, but that's a lone antag....

EagleWiz

I don't like the idea of forcing people to do those objectives AND ONLY those objectives, and the objective to kill multiple people sounds .. trickier then most if you dont get TC, but more interesting and varied traitor objectives is a good idea, and these seem fun.

EagleWiz

What causes involuntary polymorphs? 1: A wizard - the antag chosen for the round, using a staff he spent spell points on. This should probably let you attack the crew, otherwise it becomes one of the worst wizard spell point options, especially after the free drone (or xenomorph) he created decides ...

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