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This may be one of the most impressive rhetorical clashes of all time

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Antags are a bit of a meta concept so perhaps “revolutionarys” is a bad example to begin with.

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NecromancerAnne wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2024 5:39 am
Itseasytosee2me wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2024 4:39 am
DrAmazing343 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2024 3:14 am Rule 4 is only a modifier to allow freedom if there’s an escalating move at all
It isn't
Then what is it?

It empowers antagonists to act as they please to suit their character and their place in the story. It has no qualifiers.

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DrAmazing343 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2024 3:14 am Rule 4 is only a modifier to allow freedom if there’s an escalating move at all

It isn't

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I find it easier to RP when I don’t have to worry about some arbitrary critera judging my actions. Implementing a ruling that forces players to prioritize deconversion would increase the quality RP around revs and cult by exactly 0%, and for me at least, it would probably make it worse.

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I don't see the reason that we can't just ere on the side of player agency here. Sure if you are going out of your way to spoil someones deconversion attempt thats a dickhead move and you can probably get rule 1'ed for it. I would say the same thing about a traitor who is captured and being interrog...

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Yeah maybe we should make some special antags for heads of staff to we don’t have to undergo the impossible balance implications. It also the possibility for fostering a respect or trust in the employee boss relation. Traitor head is just alot more powerful than a traitor janitor or whatever, which ...

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Let rule four flow. Let the people kill the antagonists.

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I once subverted the AI by including a law that if they ever disobeyed me I “would die in the most hamful manor.” alongside a onehuman.
It isn’t what i meant but it ended up working out.

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NecromancerAnne wrote: ↑Fri Sep 27, 2024 7:06 am ~snip~

Right, sorry i read it as a defense.

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Outside of letting players get more TC if they so choose with final objectives and certain items being locked behind timegates, isn't progtot exactly like old tot now? Wouldn't a reversion to old tot with timegates just be what we have currently without the ability to gain TC? It's all in presentat...

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MOUTHWASHING A new narrative game form "wrong organ" the developers from behind How Fish is Made. Its about 2 and a half hours long, and filled with all the surliest horror that you would expect from How Fish is Made. Sci-fi setting, following the crew of a freighter stranded in space with...

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yeah this is probably a vibe. Would be sick to have maps built for lowpop, with antags built for lowpop, maybe jobs built for lowpop. I'm talking like 8-20 players. Almost like a ss13 lite mode.

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What time works for you guys? I'll bring snacks.

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Assuming timber is keeping his campaign promise, this is already a dead end.

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Do it. And keep the total round conversion events to a minimum during the period.

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I don’t know. I guess i just miss getting killed. This game was always best when you were fighting for your life and overcoming odds.

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Yeah I buy EOC. I also would buy syndie. The best way to give players good options for words to call traitors would to have more in universe refrences. If all in game resources refered to them as "rats" or "snakes" it might catch on. Snake actually might be really cool because it...

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Thank you massa, very cool!

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IT LIVES

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admins don’t have playtime requirements to post in the club so maybe thats related.

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I still think gasmask FOV could have been sick

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I didn't hear no bell!

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I actually really love our flavors despite our dumbest playing stupid cards with them because of what our brightest take inspiration from and make of them. I'll hardly call myself our brightest, but I got into a really cool character arc after becoming enamored with the Internal Affairs Agent flavo...

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I'm wondering how people would actually want to resolve this. Like sure, if we took the route of turning some of these flavors into pseudo traitors, that would be fine for maybe a couple. Like I could see something like coorperate climber being an obsessed-like antagonist with a few objectives an a ...

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Many of the traitor flavors are completely inconsistent with the realities of playing traitor. Side objectives, final objectives, and many other tangible things about traitor are directly at odds with many of the "independent" flavors like cooperate climber or gone postal. Even forgoing th...

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Good god I wish I could look that cool while I schizo post.

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aw yep. We really had something quite nice. Things are different, but its hard to quantify what exactly caused the ship to sink. Its not like the sybalites of yore were just reactionary and hated change. There were plenty of well received shakeups. There were a series of large code changes that were...

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Yeah, its really not looking great

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EU players don't really have an alternative right now. Campbell is never actually going to have pop because of self-sustain reasons ("Nobody ever plays on Campbell and all my friends play on Terry so nobody ever plays on Campbell..."). We really don't know if players actually prefer the c...

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Yeah im totally down to see how this works. Something tells me there should be some scenerio out there where a traitor lets loose and rakes indiscriminate havoc on the station. Thats like the whole credo of one of the syndie factions. I don’t know exactly what that would be or how you could keep it ...

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Its cute. I like it. Its thematic and empowering. Semantic issues may occur. Like ahelps arguing “well actually i wasn’t actually in maint when they started killing me” “and actually there was a deconstructed wall exposing maintence to primary center hallway so was i really in maintenance?” That kin...

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I think its rad. If there were interesting ways to interact with it that could facilitate escape, then that would also be rad. But if any joe shmoe can break out then whats the point?

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It doesn't really seem like the deamining is out of line but the coup de grâce seems botched.

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Yeah if they can just willingly exit the simulation then it defeats the whole purpose.

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Timonk wrote: ↑Thu Sep 05, 2024 9:05 am Just to clarify I don't think we need to free Bmon anymore he needs to serve his time

This is why I voted for timberpoes

CNN is gonna grill you on your flip flopping Timonk

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While we have it enshrined in the game rules that you can do anything you want to an antagonist, and vice versa, nuisance antagonists will not work We already get policy threads about whether it is fair for people to kill a giant, smelly rat who has invaded their workplace and is creating mess and ...

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Oh as far as the goofball slop goes this is peak. Its real thematic and interactive. I really can't think of any issues. The design behind the gulag was always 1 million times better than any other punishment sec has at its disposal. especially that fucking hypno chair. I hate that damn chair.

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Bullying and the rest aside, I do think that orange is basically right that this ruling on "handling your own tickets" sends the message that if an admin has a problem with a player's actions, then it is best for them to wait 'till the next round and dole out your judgement yourself, which...

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-snip- You seem like a sensitive guy (complement), so I'm betting things like this have a tendency to weigh heavily on your mind. If you would indulge me, allow me to offer a few words of comfort. This pain, like all things, will pass my friend. Take care of your brain, feed it, breathe well, and s...

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vect0r wrote: ↑Thu Sep 05, 2024 2:32 am thief flashbacks

Yeah, but surely there is a way to do it without the problems thief had

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Doing shit like stealing ids and such should be fine to do. But only if you are an antag. People know that they are allowed to be dicks (in character, don't let hate go ooc guys) if they are an antag, but don't remember to not be one when they are a non-antag. We are roleplaying a workplace God dam...

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You fucken bastard

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ERP was allowed up until 2022 but you had to know the right guy and get a license.

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I know, but I'm just saying why "Instead of prohibiting friendly antags, they were just excepted from the proportionality rules." makes no sense. Why would you ever kill a guy for betraying his own side and helping you out? It needs to be an admin issue. Seems like a two way street. Why w...

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What is the singular of Timberpoes? Timberpoe? What is a Timberpoe? Why do Timberpoes hate thread? Is it because they wish they had cute sweaters? Are they some jealous little bitches? Do they feel intimidated by my comfy sweater? Yeah, thought so! Poes. It's horrible slang, look it up. All I got i...

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Anyways my pet therory is that the lovable timberpoes has gone rouge and has been fabricating evidence against rival administrators to advance their own political agenda. This is all in service of executing members of the pro- Enforce Human Authority: 0 party. DrAmazing343 is next on the ticket, and...

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Right after they banned that voidcrew guy? Wonder if its related at all.

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I'm gonna rock the shit out of any individual who makes an "I ate it joke." This is a serious thread that only SERIOUS people should be allowed to discuss in. Take your antics back to clown college. I ate them sorry I AM SENDING YOU INTO THE DEEPEST OBLIVION. NOTHING CAN SAVE YOU FROM MY ...

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