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Deathrobotpunch1 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2024 1:08 amTGC is one of our oldest and well thought out features of TG.

hahahah what?

sybil's lack of admins seems like a way more pressing problem and replacing the admin candidate system with one that will allow candidates from servers other than manuel will probably solve a lot of the issues.

pepsi cirno was real

Conrad the problem is that the issues you see, i don't see, because I think none of them meet the test as has been exhaustively discussed here, if you disagree with me on that then we will never come to any form of understanding.

Also @oranges I think you're skipping step here by saying that timber doesn't care about the spirit of the rule and rather the word when he is literally at every point explaining why the rules exist in the first place. he repeatedly fails to demonstrate the harm that bmon has done to anyone in thes...

Playing while adminned and then refusing to deadmin when asked by another admin with other-other admins online able to cover tickets was deadminnable and/or demotable. I'd consider this a significant conduct breach. That this happened isn't disputed and if Bmon wanted to argue the craic on this poi...

sticks too much to the letter of rules and not the spirit which means they're bad.

If the name of all of the painting's creator is lost wouldnt the name of the paintings be lost too? Do we literally only have the actual images saved and not the strings that come with them? Or is each image saved in a way where each is literally labeled by the name of the painting and the painting...

Could you hold them until the 16th? i will be away.

datorangebottle wrote: ↑Thu Sep 05, 2024 5:42 pm This certainly seems to imply discord continuation of that incident

stop posting this it's just totally made up

BEHAVIOUR is the crux, it's less about legalism and conduct lawyering the problem is the cited incidents for each behaviour fall apart when you examine them, which makes their reasoning flawed and calls into question their assessment of bmon's behaviour entirely, we can't change their minds but we ...

Timonk wrote: ↑Thu Sep 05, 2024 3:16 pm btw do we still know when they were painted? i assume not.

don't quote me but from memory they're stored by round so in theory yes.

yeah it sucks

But the thing is though, if a player did something like that, it wouldn't even be considered actionable, it would just be normal, I don't agree that admins have to be held to a higher standard there (and it's actually unfair to do so), unless they invoke their actual admin status with "I am an...

What bothers me more is the ticket bickering. Xzero has the patience of a saint to put up with someone trying to strong-arm them into changing their ruling for nearly two hours. It was a chaotic situation and the last thing they needed was someone being aggressive and needling them for the logic an...

hopefully it does get regular use.

i can't upvote on the forums but upvote also tattle was pretty clear (in the discord message) this was primarly about the Milk situation and i think it's just so unclear as to why it's a conduct violation and it isn't nearly as black and white as timerpoes is portraying it that it ends up clouding ...

to repeat myself Regardless of what the ruling is, if you adminhelp something as a player, get told its not against the rules, and your response is to join the next round as an admin looking for an excuse to note that same behavior; you've lost the plot. That is a 100% teachable moment not a deadmi...

when you code it my brother

The voting has concluded and the provisional results are as such
Host vote: Burgerman,
Admin vote:Timberpoes,
Player vote: DrAmazing343

But man, he was trying alright. Thedragmeme had to step in to stop the argument! Which is interesting. I am glad it stayed within the ahelp itself (from what I can tell) but the fact that bmon was trying to push it super hard is very strange to me. Yes, I know players do that too, and because of th...

so far the only skirting has been them repeatedly arguing with an admin until they were mad enough to say okay fine handle it yourself then. I think this in particular is very bad. Especially for trialmins. If I was an admin, I would very much not want to be lectured by another admin about their ow...

Retraining is suitable when the admin in question shows understanding of the issues at play and agrees what they did wasn't appropriate. It's not just a formality. There's a good chance that the admin will genuinely benefit from the process, return a little bit back to basics and come out of the in...

so far the only skirting has been them repeatedly arguing with an admin until they were mad enough to say okay fine handle it yourself then. I think this in particular is very bad. Especially for trialmins. If I was an admin, I would very much not want to be lectured by another admin about their ow...

Just like a QC ban, if you skirt the rules enough you end up getting kicked out. so far the only skirting has been them repeatedly arguing with an admin until they were mad enough to say okay fine handle it yourself then. Everything else doesn't seem to really be a real conduct violation so unless ...

Perhaps I'm being over semantic, but it probably would have been better for everyone to say that you deadmined them for your list of grievances as opposed to having your main justification being a somewhat shaky interpretation of admin conduct. Just for clarity, none of the actual headadmins have p...

conrad wrote: ↑Wed Sep 04, 2024 12:50 am Not a fan of permaban nuts if I'm honest.

just take the W of ektaerina agreeing with an admin decision

the best we could do is add them all back as Anon paintings.

the metadata got overwritten with a blank file when the servers ran out of disk so although the paintings still exist the record of who made them is gone and there was a glitch with the backups which means they cannot be recovered.

iansdoor wrote: ↑Thu Sep 05, 2024 5:21 am
Jonathan Gupta wrote: ↑Thu Sep 05, 2024 5:16 am naming policy is so damn lame its like jaywalking as a crime.
This is where we should, as a community, outlaw the name "Jonathan Gupta" and replace it with "he-who-shall-not-be-named." Because you couldn't finish your workout with frankie in time.

i agree

I really dont' see anything unfixable, and a lot of the supposed patterns of behaviour fall apart at even basic examination of them, because I don't think bmon acted unreasonably in a lot of those cases. I do think how they spoke to xzero was too far. I think the bar for ahelp conduct should be hig...

and don't forget about that one time with a trial-admin who you relentlessly argued with across multiple tickets, threaten to open an admin complaint if they didn't rule how you want, over a ruling they made over your death as a player. oh and then you tried to report the trialmin to headmins over ...

and don't forget about that one time with a trial-admin who you relentlessly argued with across multiple tickets, threaten to open an admin complaint if they didn't rule how you want, over a ruling they made over your death as a player. oh and then you tried to report the trialmin to headmins over ...

but reporting to online admins while playing that someone is breaking the naming policy does in no way make you directly involved in that situation. It sounds like he reported it, got the outcome he didn't like, then bwoinked the player themselves after logging in next round (at the admin's permiss...

Bmon then logged onto the game servers, by this point it was the next shift, bwoinked the player and overruled the existing admin ruling. This was effectively handling their own ahelp, but Bmon refused to place a note on the player in question that he'd disallowed their name - meaning the only way ...

Now that it's public I can say i think personally it's a bad outcome, because in my opinion it encourages admins to not ahelp issues they see and just handle them the next round instead. As a player, I personally think that this is just as bad as ahelping it and then later handling the ticket later...

Now that it's public I can say i think personally it's a bad outcome, because in my opinion it encourages admins to not ahelp issues they see and just handle them the next round instead. I think busting to trial would have been a better solution and sent a message that is better that you shouldn't s...

we are so back

warbluke wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 7:19 pm I am a little shocked to see that many threads. It's more than seven which is a very high number.

gotta admit i respect how prolific they are.

currently out with a sesamoiditis injury to my foot

Nice work on the weight loss and consistency!

i ain't reading all that
i'm happy for u though
or sorry that happened

Bisar wrote: ↑Tue Aug 27, 2024 12:35 am I do wonder what is causing her to so obsessively mouse over ghosts even if she is cheating. Getting meta knowledge about who is dead, I guess?

it's probably automatic and used to notify the user when an admin ghost is near them.

it's weird because anyone with a client capable of doing mouse cheats can trivially ban evade so i'm not sure why they would even bother appealing they are a voidcrew headmin IIRC that is only a negative in my mind so i'm not sure why you brought it up They want to keep their face in the community ...

Timonk wrote: ↑Mon Aug 26, 2024 1:50 am
oranges wrote: ↑Mon Aug 26, 2024 1:45 am it's weird because anyone with a client capable of doing mouse cheats can trivially ban evade so i'm not sure why they would even bother appealing
they are a voidcrew headmin IIRC

that is only a negative in my mind so i'm not sure why you brought it up

it's weird because anyone with a client capable of doing mouse cheats can trivially ban evade so i'm not sure why they would even bother appealing

if you do not have a perfect grasp of english language and the willingness to write exhuaustively long posts might I recommend not engaging in discussions on politically charged topics? That's excludes literally everyone here Nonsense, there's at least half a dozen people on this forum with the det...

if you do not have a perfect grasp of english language and the willingness to write exhuaustively long posts might I recommend not engaging in discussions on politically charged topics?

MrStonedOne wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2024 10:39 pm There is more here than meets the eye.

seconding this

wait a minute, contributors being toxic, i think i've seen this one before... somewhere...

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