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Diasyl

I think this is just an RD issue. RD must oversee their subordinates and their department. If a Roboticist builds combat mechs FNR (especially on MRP) the RD must ask them why, and at minimum enforce them to put a beacon on them. If they deny - as per RP Rule 3 RD can do anything about this, from wa...

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I will vote for Goof just because its funny.

VOTE GOOF 2024!!

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The great thing about Gulag is that it's a great shitters filter. A just Tider would mine their petty 100 points, but a shitter Tider will just ghost 1 nanosecond after being shoved into the teleporter. Double points if he makes a Forum post, and quadruple the points if he also opens a PR removing G...

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Closest I can find on short notice was a discussion from 2021I had with some players https://tgstation13.download/dip/discordimageproxy.php/attachments/590051584495321100/1183106291309232148/image.png TL;DR You can very easily justify killing security but preemptively wiping the floor with them wit...

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Ninja could've used any other security console on the station, and cameras don't pose that great of a danger as AI will locate them anyway. what if this was the first one they saw or thought of, do you think ninjas should avoid interacting with security at all costs? Ninja is (at least should be) a...

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ok then this is already policy If It was this policy thread wouldn't exist. There is no policy preventing Restricted Antagonists from murdering all of the Security, as such admins make mixed decisions. Half of the admins go "Antags can kill all of the sec no matter what", the other half g...

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Do we really have mrp admins who have read the mrp rules and think that antagonists are allowed to slaughter all of security just because they want to slaughter all of security? This is the thing with policies that aren't fully codified, admins can interpret vaguely written policies in any way they...

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ok then this is already policy If It was this policy thread wouldn't exist. There is no policy preventing Restricted Antagonists from murdering all of the Security, as such admins make mixed decisions. Half of the admins go "Antags can kill all of the sec no matter what", the other half g...

Diasyl

By this I mean them taking pro-active/offensive measure to kill ALL of the Seccies.

Diasyl

Forget everything I said about my examples or whatever, this became a big misunderstanding. I want to say that Restricted Antagonists (which are not allowed to murderbone on MRP) should not just destroy ENTIRE Security department for no reason. They still must be able to kill Officers for almost any...

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We got driven off the point really. I'm gonna recite the main point again: Antagonists (on MRP) should not be allowed to indiscriminately kill all of the Security department just for being Security. They still can kill them if they stand in the line of their objectives. The first comments by mrmelb...

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We got driven off the point really. I'm gonna recite the main point again: Antagonists (on MRP) should not be allowed to indiscriminately kill all of the Security department just for being Security. They still can kill them if they stand in the line of their objectives. The first comments by mrmelbe...

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"I was just watching the cams" <-- "I was just providing overwatch for the team, ready to invisibly summon the entire sec force on any suspect activity without them having any idea" This way you can even name standing somewhere a constant danger, as they oversee that area with t...

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"I was just watching the cams" <-- "I was just providing overwatch for the team, ready to invisibly summon the entire sec force on any suspect activity without them having any idea" This way you can even name standing somewhere a constant danger, as they oversee that area with t...

Diasyl

a sec officer scrubbing cams is a threat to any antagonist. Ninja could've used any other security console on the station, and cameras don't pose that great of a danger as AI will locate them anyway. Ok chuckle nuts, then why were you watching them? Looking for anything suspicious duh, AI has much ...

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a sec officer scrubbing cams is a threat to any antagonist. Ninja could've used any other security console on the station, and cameras don't pose that great of a danger as AI will locate them anyway. Ok chuckle nuts, then why were you watching them? Looking for anything suspicious duh, AI has much ...

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Space Ninja decapitated all of the Security members on the station. I was attacked when I was just watching Security Cameras unaware, capped. You would have 100% killed the ninja on sight if you had the chance to. This is the expected way for security to deal with ninjas. How is it even remotely un...

Diasyl

Closest I can find on short notice was a discussion from 2021I had with some players https://tgstation13.download/dip/discordimageproxy.php/attachments/590051584495321100/1183106291309232148/image.png TL;DR You can very easily justify killing security but preemptively wiping the floor with them wit...

Diasyl

Closest I can find on short notice was a discussion from 2021I had with some players https://tgstation13.download/dip/discordimageproxy.php/attachments/590051584495321100/1183106291309232148/image.png TL;DR You can very easily justify killing security but preemptively wiping the floor with them wit...

Diasyl

mrmelbert wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:51 pm This is already a thing

It's been ruled this way since I can remember, I guess it's just been lost to the whims of time

Got any links or screenshots?

In any way, if it did get lost - we can restore it.

Diasyl

my understanding of restricted antags vs sec has always been that it either needs to be in pursuit of your objectives (this secoff is posted in engineering and i need to sabotage the engine, i'm going to kill him) or you have a specific example in that round that justifies attacking sec (officer di...

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my understanding of restricted antags vs sec has always been that it either needs to be in pursuit of your objectives (this secoff is posted in engineering and i need to sabotage the engine, i'm going to kill him) or you have a specific example in that round that justifies attacking sec (officer di...

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No. This is a terrible idea. For the same reason it would he dumb to disallow murderboning if crew validhunting was allowed. Security is allowed to freely search for, validhunt, and attack antagonists. Antagonists must be able to freely do so in return without having to worry about justifying it to...

Diasyl

Enforcing the Law is not being a "shitsec".
Tiders should have a bad time. If you want to access something - ask for it, if you don't want to - break in and get it with the risk of getting arrested.

This is just a risk factor for going with a more straightforward way of acquiring things.

Diasyl

The concept of security, as it is commonly understood, is intended to act as a barrier between an antagonist and their objectives. However, my observations on the subject suggest that security can often become an objective in and of itself. Antagonists may attempt to kill Security members to acquire...

Diasyl

Isn't the whole point of space exploration is to acquire loot?
Really stupid to just not allow a person play a part of the game they want to play, especially when that part of the game doesn't even directly harm anyone.

Diasyl

The saying of that disabling human authority would make Command more competent is really stretched. There is the same amount of competent non-human players as much as the human players. I think this telling actually accuses human players of being bad at Command. In any way, there is no that much ben...

Diasyl

You tell someone to KYS – you get banned.

This is that simple, I have no idea how people can't understand this.

Diasyl

Humans are the only species who are default, they have no mechanical pros or cons. BUT!
Them being able to be in command and having Asimov protection from silicon's is their de facto PRO. And I don't think one of those pros should be removed.

Diasyl

In all seriousness though we are trending in the right direction. For a period of about 8 months, about 2 years ago, there was virtually no antaggery. Now we have conflict again, but just in a reduced form. there was an era on manuel around that time where all the sec metagangs disappeared and nobo...

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Eventually one of the uninformed people guessing what they think MRP is like will get it right, and earn a gold star. The answer to OP's question is that security is more robust on MRP so antags never stand a chance. And we also have the most robust antags. No one with more hours on MRP than me wil...

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For my time in the Tgstation I have noticed one thing, a "hostility" between Manuel and every other server (at least people talk about it). This especially is happening with any change that adds some kind of RP mechanic, restriction or such. As a Manuel mainer now would like to hear every...

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What's for sure it will improve is the security department quality, as now to play security you don't need 300 minutes just as crew which gives you almost nothing to security knowledge. But you need 300 minutes on the security cadet, who is in the security department and understands its functions an...

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i never liked the idea of departmental assistants because newbies learning jobs are never “wasting slots”- that’s a terrible perspective to have and we should instead focus on making the jobs more approachable. adding these jobs would just bloat up the departments and jobs. some certain jobs requir...

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Like, I have actually done it now lol

Diasyl

I don't think they should be called "Assistants" since that might attract people wanting to tide but with more access. Maybe "Trainee?" Also make it like sec officers where you pick a department you spawn in assigned to so it's only one job but with subsets instead of five+ You ...

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Departmental assistants would be assistants which are specifically designated to a certain department, having the access but being the lowest of lowest in it. Departmental assistants would preserve the actual job slots with gear and responsibilities to people who know what they're doing, while newbi...

Diasyl

Sybil and Terry are fairly similar. It used to be that Terry was just Sybil except more structured - a more structured and organized command, sec, and medbay which resulted in a bit more of a controlled environment especially for antags. But it's more or less equalized in that regard. Now the main ...

Diasyl

For my time in the Tgstation I have noticed one thing, a "hostility" between Manuel and every other server (at least people talk about it). This especially is happening with any change that adds some kind of RP mechanic, restriction or such. As a Manuel mainer now would like to hear every...

Diasyl

For my time in the Tgstation I have noticed one thing, a "hostility" between Manuel and every other server (at least people talk about it). This especially is happening with any change that adds some kind of RP mechanic, restriction or such. As a Manuel mainer now would like to hear every...

Diasyl

For my time in the Tgstation I have noticed one thing, a "hostility" between Manuel and every other server (at least people talk about it). This especially is happening with any change that adds some kind of RP mechanic, restriction or such. As a Manuel mainer now would like to hear everyt...

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Updated

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Fuck, but okay...

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I want to make new sprites for bio suits because those used right now are not so good looking. I will post my work flow here, awaiting feedback!
[imghttps://media.discordapp.net/attachments/484282206034853888/935987124526776340/unknown.png][/img]

Diasyl

ambiviro1.ogg Another version a bit to ambient for me, I just want some peace and quiet making a death disease, so I can hear when someone comes in or someone has footsteps. Well, it's just made in style of SS13 ambience sounds. They are always so weird and shit, I wanted this one to sound like pla...

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ambiviro1.ogg: Like second sound; (325.49 KiB) Downloaded 90 times

Another version

Diasyl

The example you gave isn't bad. It definitely conveys a certain degree of darkness that you'd expect from that location. This is an incredibly vague suggestion, but I'd make it sound more "laboratory". A bit more bubbly, maybe. Something that echoes the chemistry and monkey experimentatio...

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For a few months the monkeys would scream really loud at random intervals and let me tell you that was absolutely the worst. I assume there's centrifuge running off in the distance, and the entire thing is a negative pressure room so probably a small fan. Well, there is already a vent sound existin...

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What do you think your funny little room ambience sound like? Right now it just utillizes medbay ambience, how about it having unique ambience sound? Maybe it should sound like something from plague inc? I wanna make one, I want your help.

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