/tg/Station 13

Antimattercarp

So igloos would be a ghetto shelter?

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Law 211 is insubordination, meaning that when one disobeys a direct order from their superiors they are demoted or incarcerated. Assistants' superiors are all other jobs. Therefore I can tell an assistant to do something inane and if he refuses sec can shove him in the brig? Can I get rid of annoyin...

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Huh, I suppose it would make me care enough to clean the whole station instead of just the hallways.

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Just limit the total amount of them on station, like 1 per department.

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Oh yay. Everyone knows that the whole departments need to rely on other departments is an important part of the game right?

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As you may or may not realize, both of the economy pulls fell through because, like bayeconomy, money had no real value assigned to it and worries were had that it would be used to gate already existing content behind arbitrary prices. Not only is this less of a problem than you would think, it is i...

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What?
Can you link to the pull that put this in?
Edit: Found it, seems interesting https://github.com/tgstation/-tg-station/pull/10143

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Human-Crainal Worm pairing "Codependents": [No lore] Notes: Purely a moonshot. Gimped humans that are slower, fragiler paired with another player playing a brainworm that can occasionally wrest control away from the human to avoid such deadly things as normally healing chemicals in exchan...

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To include the AI, you could destroy the AI upload and the AI upload boards next time

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Alright then, consensus seems to be that races have to A.) Be creative, B.) not be furry bullshit and C.) Not have *any* advantage to playing over humans So let's get started then, I suggest pulp scifi or something older to base them off of. Hopkinites "Satyrs": Diminutive "Little Gre...

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Delaware is cyberpunk Delaware's largest city has the largest murder rate per capita in the USA 50% of all corporations incorporated in the USA are incorporated in Delaware due to favorable corporate laws Industry in Delaware is in a state of decay, outsourced to other countries. Due to said level o...

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It would be the same as opening your locker and sorting through that but instead of one size fits all you have a choice in equipment.

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I knew people were unimaginative, but really? We already can see how an economy can be implemented because for one job it already *is*. I, of course, speak of mining. For those of out of the loop, mining works currently like this: A miner starts with a mining voucher which gives them a set amount of...

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Everyone who complains about the taser nerf is a fucking scrub. There's no other way about it. You're the same morons who would attempt taser-storm under old runspeeds, get out juked, and then your shit slapped and cry "taser needs more bolts! taser projectile too slow!" None of these wea...

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So like many players I don't really like hybrid tasers. So by the numbers a hybrid taser has ~20 disabler shots and two electrodes as it stands; Now the values for each of these is 30 sta dmg for a disabler shot and a hit of weaken for an electrode shot. What is interesting is when you compare this ...

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>HoP >too busy I also see that there is only one argument against, based purely on poor implementation no less, and yet the votes are equal. Economy *if implemented correctly* provides a new tool for game balance, structure, and motivation. Certainly it will not be the clunky, half-implemented, aba...

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Making sec unable to kill people who are 100% known to be allowed to kill sec sounds like it would make things even less fun for sec players. The whole principle behind antags being valid salad is that since antags are allowed to do anything to you, you should be allowed to do anything to them. So ...

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I am of the opinion that what gang currently needs is a policy clarification rather than a refinement of coding. All sides at the moment seem to treat gang as a team form of rev rather than it's own special roundtype and from my own (singular) experience, that is what it tends to turn into. I think ...

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People tend to forget that sec is just as much OOC as IC, you hear this from each and every *veteran* sec officer. Although it has gone down recently for me(Likely because I play sec significantly less), I remember the *bwoink*. The thing about adminpms is that they rarely come when everything is ru...

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Your match is -- Calvin Coolidge Calvin Coolidge was born in Vermont and grew up comfortably middle-class. He was a man of very few words. In fact, we was probably the most reserved President in our nation's history. He was also organized and had high expectations of others. He was honest and tolera...

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Gonna have to add a few more borg slots if we remove roundstart AI

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Security suffers from serious snowballing. If there's a decent number of roundstart sec, there's a very good chance you'll get more late joining sec. If there is little or no roundstart sec NO ONE LATE JOINS SEC. People take one look at the manifest/available jobs, see no sec and just NOPE the fuck...

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I think WJ has a problem...
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Likely gonna have to up the amount of sec for this.

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Easiest way to fix this is to switch sybil's map to metastation and basil's to box, the amount of "Muh Box!" that seems to exist should cause the server pops to even out a little.

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You guys know that you can just change the network the helmet cams are on so that the AI has to change network to see them right? The AI seeing them seems to be the biggest complaint about them from the people I talk to, I don't like it either.

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Looks like the metagame is going to adapt, you can code it so that the network is changed making it so that the AI cannot casually look through the helmet cams.

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Can we get An0n3 to tape it and put it on his you-tube?

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So consensus is to make chaplain prayers more visible

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Shoot, would sec need badges differing depending on what kind of cases they work?

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So now that the 3x3 stun is gone from the pepperspray, when exactly is the right time to use it? (What does it even do anymore?)

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Atmos would be completely locked down by security, being on the level of the rest of engineering with the ability to start venting plasma and other fun gasses everywhere.

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Wasn't they working on taking the sprites from existing 3D model rigs so they only have to make a texture instead of animate every little bit?

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Saegrimr, to be fair, sec has nearly as much authority as the warden and HoS. If the captain, HoS, or warden breaks the law, a sec officer can arrest them, and depending on the severity of the crime, demote them. Theoretically. In practice all hell will rain down if they use this power. That said, ...

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If someone does their initial job, such as setting up the singularity or grabbing a few crates for cargo, then they should be allowed to do what they want. If the Engineer is looting a hardsuit get Security on the issue, we've never had any problems with allowing people to go build their forts or c...

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( I actually forgot I made this) The addition of an economy would be a deep gamechanger or not much of one at all. One of the ideas that I am thinking for this is a sort of semi-persistence between rounds. I can imagine several ways we can mix and match this, I can imagine a liquid cash account that...

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So exactly what do we need to set up an economy system at the bare minimum/moderate/max? We need some sort of ATM, a point of sale device, some nebulous *thing* to integrate with the rest of the station and I am certain at least a little bit else to put things together at the min. The reason I ask i...

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Let's do a two stager, we take the top 3 or five from an ingame poll and then we thunderdome the finalist on the forums were people will actually input stuff.

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From an OOC perspective, cleaning blood in the game is nearly a pointless task. You're underestimating the psychological impact of such a mess. People are much more likely to vandalize an already vandalized house. This is SS13, not real life, vandalism isn't usually bothered with if the Janitor isn...

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Your using lasers on riots?/windowbreakers?
Edit: The shutters still work, don't they?

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Every other department on the station has a nice clear job to do except for sec. Engineering: Makes sure things run Medical: Makes sure people work Service: Makes sure people run Sci: Make things Supply: Get things Command: Make sure that their departments do their jobs, die in a remote corner Secur...

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So, almost 50-50 split and no reasoning for why assistants should keep maint.
Edit: Why don't Sec have maint by default?

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From what I see, for sec it is basically a situation of "Looks like rev, quacks like rev, not rev". It needs to be very distinct in some way from the "Oh god no" roundtype as sec

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I would think that if it is tied to the PDA it would be hard to secure, I would still like it to be mobile in some way.

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"But they will break things otherwise!" is not a valid excuse for assmaint, they do that anyway

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I am in full support of the command line editing of the sec recs, I would perfer it not be via PDA but it needs to happen imo

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Why, exactly, are assistants so good? What, exactly, do assistants do that other jobs don't? Assistants are the life and blood of the station. -They give the service jobs a reason to exist -They give the station roleplaying interaction outside of "hey could you pass that beaker?" -They al...

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Gun Hog wrote:Attempting to solve the assistant issue in an harsh manner could result in driving players away from the server completely.

You mean, people would actually play on art and basil then?!

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Institutionalized specisism would add a lot more flavor in my opinion. Lizards are drastically different from humans and it would be easier to justify than racism is.

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We should leave Sybil as it is and gear Server 2 as a more RP heavy server by rules. I don't know of any other community that has done this and I think it would be a great way to handle the current population and behavioral issues. Russian SS13 community has done that. They had/have like 3 servers ...

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