/tg/Station 13

Redrover1760

Yeah I always get worried as AI when sec asks me to locate a human soon after opening the armory. I want to follow the order but they look like they are going for lethals... If I follow the order, I worry I am going to get bwoinked or am breaking the rules somehow? But I also feel that way if I den...

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These scenarios are commonly what I'd consider "Mock Revolution Practice." Bring flashbangs, teargas, and a buddy if you can, and the second the crowd starts going rogue, hit the flashbang, utilize defensive pepperspray, flashes in last resort if you know you are getting disarmed. Pull out...

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The disposals network fucking sucks, try riding down it one shift. All the garbage gets yeetes past cargo office cause the chutes are too close together. Then it heads to jani office and then some weird space garbage area with conveyers. Also, I hate unremoveable floor decals and birdshot is littere...

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I would argue that the only "lethal threat" made to the AI was from Imitates themselves when they asked the scientist if they were going to have the AI kill them, either way I don't think this situation warranted Imitates putting someone into crit over some words that were spoken in a con...

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The other thing people are gonna say is 'but muh soul, human supremacy is cool and lorepilled!" but honestly I don't think 'human supremacy' is all that fun or interesting RP-wise like >90% of the time, not to mention all the times it's just hijacked by actual racists who want to say the n wor...

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The "but don't do it too much" clause is a crutch and we apply it to too many situations. Not every repeatable action is automatically bad for the game. Space should be free for people to explore, that's why it's there. Every round they play, if that's what a player wants. Even obtaining ...

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IC issues on tg station are dead, and roleplaying is a myth. You dont have to prove one side is correct and the other is objectively wrong and rulebreaking. The assistant has the captain's permission to be there. The scientist wants the tider out. Lethal threats of AI were made, and thus the fightin...

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The issue is not that people are going to space and getting loot, the issue is that individuals are doing it way too often. Zishy finds a gimmick and beats it into the ground rapidly for reasons I don't understand, then misconstrues us asking them to stop doing it so often as meaning it's bad to ev...

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I find the idea that space exploration for the purposes of giving things away to others being against any rules absurd. If the loot is so bad its running afoul of powergaming that is a code issue, manuel or not.

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Ling armor, for something that has an active chemical drain, is not really worth it. 40 across level armor is worse than heretic, only plus being 90 bomb, but considering its a piece of armor that literally screams ling just for wearing it, while in comparison sec vest/helmet is comparable and has n...

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The fact that that the best plan for a ling is to mostly rely on crew gear and equipment instead of going full alien monster on people is a big lrp coder issue.

I just want my alien monsters to commit evil alien murder with actual alien powers, damnit. Make lings cool again.

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General reminder to keep yourself safe.

Nerds.

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at one point around 2020 someone discovered if you powered a phazon with a yellow slime core it would basically give you unlimited power and you could phase as much as you wanted. that week of rounds still lives on in my memory until it was fixed. you would hide in a bathroom stall, open your uplin...

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This is basically just dont prep for antags before you catchy any windy of them, a general rule that exists already for stuff like securing brig, proofing atmos against ai, etc. And considering it'll take at least 20 minutes for tech if you dont grief miners by skipping mining tech 9 times out of 10...

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This is why I plan to apply as an admin. I want to set things right by looking at the secret logs and coming to the same conclusion the unanimous antag team perspective on the issue has come to and then go ahead and be called a traitor by the players that supported me. What you get will not satisfy...

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Also it shouldn't come as a surprise that players, infact, don't see 99% of the admin stuff we do. They only see the 1% of appeals and permabans. If you think this is bad, imagine all the information that's being hidden from you concerning every other permanent ban placed and every other non-perman...

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I dislike progression antags because they overly gamify antags with Numbers Go Up gameplay loops. I don't believe this makes for better SS13 or really even good SS13. Similar to when Chefs and Bartenders got those dumb fucking bots, they started ignoring other players because they could complete a ...

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kinnebian wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2023 2:42 pm the inability of the players club to explain anything without using awful analogies

No Sinful is actually just that unrobust.

Edit: Nvm I fully agree lol

Redrover1760

Skill issue, should have slipped MSO and did a no u instead.

Honestly Sinfulbliss is so unrobust lmao. Cant even dodge a blacklist.

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oranges wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2023 6:44 pm
Heyitsohjay wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2023 6:24 pm we need to give these two a proper funeral a la terry
Dude I'm out of doors

Oranges managed to call it. I'm astonished.

Redrover1760

this is a good way of putting it. dont back down on this cuz this was very well written. sometimes shit just happens and it’s really fucking funny when it does. like gonna be real i cracked a smile when i read the gorilla had a killcount of 7. that’s a skill issue right there. I dont exactly abando...

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viewtopic.php?f=7&t=35379

Not to mock the person who english isnt their first language, but surely other countries use proper paragraphs. What is this, Rome where periods didnt exist whatsoever?

Edit: oh wait, it is rome, that paragraph is one sentence.

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Fair enough. Guy is a complete clown. Next appeal please.

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Constellado wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2023 1:15 am
Also, please stop saying people following silpol as they understand it and arguing it is a person being in bad faith please. Silpol is the one thing people can be all logical and blunt about IMO.

This. Its like treating silicons as crew all over again.

Redrover1760

I think he was trying to argue in good faith. Gorillas are scary but if I was in that situation I dont think I would have realized how nuts they are and assumed they'd just get killed soon after it was released. The lack of an apology is "I was acting in good faith and trying to do something co...

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This dumb facet of silicon policy has always poked its head out to be annoying and confusing for everyone involved. Big surprise it shows up in an appeal, I guess. Anyways I've learned to just not fuck with prisoners in brig ever as AI according to what an admin told me before the rework outside of ...

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Anyways be afraid for the MSO is stealing your admin abuse pressnts tonight. Remember that you should have shipped them through exotic, illicit sites instead of discord and the IRS. No can know about your secret mozzarella.

Redrover1760

If someone forced me to sit through ahelps because I arrested them for being a tiding assistant into medbay and having assaulting a doctor and gave a textbook space law 5 minure brig sentence and somehow I got noted for it I'd be pretty pissed at the assistant too, not gonna lie. IC issues are truly...

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The crew to antags ratio feels like its been off since the inception of dynamic. The theming feels all over the place, and it all just feels so unbalanced compared to old game modes. The prevalence of midround traitor sleeper agents also drive me mad, but its a little bit better now that they aren'...

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It is the year of 203X. There is no more such thing as an "IC issue". The Admins intervene in every random squabble or action that vaguely harms other people. Non-antagonists are absurdly bored and validhunt even more than they do, or alternatively just afk in a corner while they wait to b...

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im so confused so was the cheese spoiled or not? because i thought it was spoiled. but cheshify is saying to spoil the cheese. Chesify didn't request to spoil it if you look through discord. Lunchbox also said that they spoiled it later. There wasn't a request to spoil or tag ever mentioned. In fac...

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This ban is totally wrong. Chesify essentially arbitrarly removed an image, claiming it was fetish art (Sure fine, but it was spoilered and in the shitpost channel and is not super NSFW). Then when they reposted it they got timed out by a DJ for repsoting an image an admin deleted. That is basicall...

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Pfft. The video's just funny honestly.

Redrover1760

Too much policy. Too much bloat. Not enough clear grounds and wiggle room in policies for people to have options on how to handle situations. Too much micromanagement and low ability to make decisions. Getting bwoinked for letting antags free. Getting bwoinked for not validhunting. Getting bwoinked ...

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Well actualllyy :geek: Yeah, there is. Its the new fucking policy made by the headmins literally no one likes and that needs to be revisited and removed as soon as possible. https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=35283 That is a proposal thread, its not policy yet and hopefully the ...

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The policy is just unfun. People should be allowed to choose how they want to play. Existing policy "Dont suicide log out afk" is more than sufficient to not be encroaching upon player freedom and a lack of expectations to handle every single random crime, properly and correctly, including...

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Did the security officer even attempt to ask about this thou? Security officers should not be assuming the assistant is in the wrong because they are an assistant, that is meta and ooc. TBM was right here and you all are just ignoring the context that is inconvenient to your reeee'ing. it sounds li...

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8bot wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 8:48 am major pain in the ass and high potential for a 'why bother' situation cropping up; not a fan of this idea.

I agree.

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This is just a silly idea I came up with after reading github. The issue in question for those unfamiliar: AI laws are too easy to change. In comparison to the sorta well secured secure tech storage and the well defended ai upload chamber, printing the board out of any imprinter including engineerin...

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also keep in mind, emphasis mine don't worry this change is still just one I am making because I personally think it's a good idea and there's no guarantee it will be merged . No guarantee, sure, but still, I'm deeply worried because they mentioned the headmin team and maintainers wanted this. And ...

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I'd die, as ocelot would shoot me with infinite revolver shots by dumping a full inventory of revolvers on me.

Redrover1760

As an avid sec player. Nah. Admins already breathe down my neck for sending a tider to the gulag for 500 points. If an admin PMs me about not arresting someone I should have arrested I'm just gonna close my game out This is blatantly against security policy though which states sentences up to 10 mi...

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Making sec do their "job" will only make less people play security. For all of the reasons above. Yay. I like enforcing the law, but there is such a strong tider mentality on lrp right now its kind of torturous. I've arrested a guy with a stolen sec id in brig fucking with the sec records ...

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Most on topic peanut thread

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Heads of staff antags can be really boring or they could horrifically and stealthily abuse their power to cause conflict and/or divide the station in half.

Of course no one ever does the latter anymore because we are in the ss13 rpless dark ages.

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GPeckman wrote: ↑Sun Nov 12, 2023 4:21 am It would be very funny in a twisted way if they got unbanned after so many people got banned for the funeral thing.

That would be the ultimate irony.

Holding a funeral for a person and dying in the process only to realize they got revived.

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the mech destruction is like the least fun thing can we at the least brainstorm a solution Surely an easy fix would be just removing mech destruction and replacing it with scanning active mechs, to ideally encourage robo to make mechs for people to use, rather than for themselves to destroy immedia...

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Suggestion Current Issues with Progression Traitor: Too many, low impactful objectives. Tedium, essentially. There is a sense of MMO-gameyness to it, which is absolutely a downgrade from before progression traitor. In addition, the objectives given are a lot less rewarding than the satisfaction of ...

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Add significant rewards for scanning alive xenos. Nothing rackets the tension up like standing next to a xeno and trying to scan them as you hope you dont get fucked in an instant.

Maybe.

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@Fatal: While bwoinks are usually fairly routine for admins, and very low-impact, this is unfortunately not how many players view them, from what I’ve heard. At worst bwoinks can be round-long endeavors, sparking a long heated argument that ruins the game for the player for the night — or worse, fo...

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