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After way too long in drafting and with a significant amount of time staring at words until they make sense again, I finally have a draft for the proposed new naming policy that the admin and headmin teams don't hate enough to release publicly for the community to have a look at.

This draft isn't final, and is still open to changes, but is likely pretty close to what we're looking for in the final policy. If you've got any feedback, you can post it here or/and in the policybus thread I'll be putting up...

Roleplaying isn't (or at least it shouldn't be) having a polite conversation with someone. What happened to paranoia? Are people not comfortable hating or disliking someone in character but not out of character?
People don't want to offend others, people don't want to make people dislike them OCC. Whenever one person is trying to kill another person they usually try to be funny to show that out of character they are not serious and don't dislike you. This sucks for immersion. The MRP rules certainly aren't...

So, a part of silicon policy in regard to asimov states that:

When given an order likely to cause you grief if completed, you can announce it as loudly and in whatever terms you like except for explicitly asking that it be overridden. You can say you don't like the order, that you don't want to follow it, etc., you can say that you sure would like it and it would be awfully convenient if someone ordered you not to do it, and you can ask if anyone would like to make you not do it. However, you cannot...

So someone died (as usual) they bring him to medical. Before revival i fix his brute & burn damage easy with surgery but he has 100 Toxin & 100 Oxy(Respiratory) damage.

How do i fix toxin & respiratory damage in a dead patient before revival? He doesn't have any chemicals in him i filtered that all out using blood filter surgery but his toxin didn't improve. Due to decay his toxin reached 100 i think so i have no idea how to fix that

Thoughts?

What if we had the option to buy fake ID's cards with no access and can not be inserted into id consoles, they are printed with a single name and job that can't be changed after you buy it? (only sec officers can see if its fake by inspecting it like the captain and fake disks)

More homemade or bulky armor, a shield?

I'll come up with some more ideas for it later.

𝘪 𝘮𝘢𝘺 𝘯𝘰𝘵 𝘣𝘦 𝘨𝘰𝘰𝘥 𝘢𝘵 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘴, 𝘴𝘰 𝘪'𝘷𝘦 𝘣𝘦𝘦𝘯 𝘸𝘰𝘯𝘥𝘦𝘳𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘢𝘣𝘰𝘶𝘵 𝘸𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘤𝘰𝘶𝘭𝘥 𝘣𝘦 𝘴𝘰𝘮𝘦 𝘦𝘢𝘴𝘺 𝘪𝘴𝘴𝘶𝘦𝘴 𝘵𝘰 𝘧𝘪𝘹 𝘧𝘰𝘳 𝘎𝘉𝘗? 𝘪'𝘷𝘦 𝘢𝘭𝘴𝘰 𝘣𝘦𝘦𝘯 𝘸𝘰𝘯𝘥𝘦𝘳𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘢𝘣𝘰𝘶𝘵 𝘸𝘩𝘦𝘳𝘦 𝘪𝘯 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘣𝘢𝘴𝘦𝘣𝘢𝘭𝘭 𝘣𝘢𝘵 𝘳𝘦𝘧𝘭𝘦𝘤𝘵 𝘤𝘰𝘥𝘦 𝘥𝘰𝘦𝘴 𝘪𝘵 𝘴𝘵𝘢𝘵𝘦 𝘸𝘩𝘪𝘤𝘩 𝘪𝘵𝘦𝘮𝘴 𝘢𝘳𝘦 𝘢𝘭𝘭𝘰𝘸𝘦𝘥 𝘵𝘰 𝘣𝘦 𝘳𝘦𝘵𝘶𝘳𝘯𝘦𝘥 𝘵𝘰 𝘴𝘦𝘯𝘥𝘦𝘳 𝘣𝘦𝘤𝘢𝘶𝘴𝘦 𝘪 𝘱𝘭𝘢𝘯 𝘵𝘰 𝘪𝘮𝘱𝘳𝘰𝘷𝘦 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘮𝘦𝘤𝘩𝘢𝘯𝘪𝘤 𝘵𝘰 𝘣𝘦 𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘱𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘣𝘭𝘦 𝘸𝘪𝘵𝘩 𝘰𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘳 𝘵𝘩𝘳𝘰𝘸𝘯 𝘪𝘵𝘦𝘮𝘴.

I am Dorkus. Is this name impossible to play with? I have encountered many names that are vaguely similar to Pleez Notbaneme or Songuliuouse Inengineereing or Fury Categirl on Manuel, but I get targeted for Dorkus Hore . Anyone vibe with the Hore? Please voice support or resentment against the Hore. If this name is unacceptable, why? Why are other vaguely meta or memey names acceptable? Is it the humor or the situation? I feel like Dorkus was a good punching bag that people enjoyed teasing IC. Dorkus Hore...

Eternal September or the September that never ended is Usenet slang for a period beginning around 1993 when Internet service providers began offering Usenet access to many new users. The flood of new users overwhelmed the existing culture for online forums and the ability to enforce existing norms.

Another flood is around the corner. I'm hard at work trying to increase traffic to our servers. But there's a problem: unchecked growth threatens to greatly lower gameplay standards and also squeeze out...

BYOND account: New_plastic
Character name: Lazarus Harkon I believe.
Ban type: Server
Ban length: Permanent
Ban reason: Likely grief account. As an assistant, killed a miner because he thought TG was a server where you could kill people as a non-antag . Also very evasive in ahelps. Appeal on the forum if you wish.
Time ban was placed: 2020-12-09 at 03:31:20
Server you were playing on when banned: Bagil or Sybil. Can't remember exactly.
Round ID in which ban was placed: 151804
Your side of the story: I'm...

this is to incentivize people to pick the job because then they can use the extra credits to buy cigarettes and outfits from the vendos

So I'm going to bring up two things that fall under the title that I think it would be beneficial to discuss and potentially consider, currently OOC in IC is only allowed for teaching players game mechanics, but I think there are some other use cases where it should be allowed.

1: AFK , I think AFK should be removed from the word filter, we have an IC equivalent term SSD however this is already borderline OOC in its use-case and is very unfriendly terminology to new players. While AFK might be immersion...

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That's it. That's the whole idea.

Still fits in security belts and sec clothing external storage.

if a man cannot trust his fellow man with the freedom to bear his own mistakes under the watchful eye and cleansing scorn of his fellows, then he is neither a man or deserving of the freedom of expression

the system in which you have constructed is built on the philosophy of absolute order, enforced through the cold enactment of divine justice.

that same justice is neither divine nor justice, there is only divinity in letting your fellow man be policed by not himself, but you, not a higher power.

i...

So. This is admittedly anecdotal, but it's reaching the point where I wanna try and do something about it, and I'm pretty sure spawn rates are config.

Blob's is way too high. It's reaching the point where I'm starting to see one every second shift, including on Low Pop when the crew's like, 15 people. For a Round-ending antag, that's far too high. Especially for one that actively requires a large crew size to combat it.

Blobs are fine in small doses, but when you see them every second round, they grow...

So, historically the host has been used by well, the host. I had this idea while taking a shit, why not offer the headmin host vote to TG DONATORS? These people are paying to support the community so why not let them have an additional say in the future direction of policy? If Citizens United proved anything, it's that money and politics never go wrong together.

(While I'm aware this isn't a feature idea, it is a policy idea so don't trash me, bro.)

As far as I know when there is an admin on a restart vote only succeeds when an admin is on if the admin takes action to let it pass.

This is the reverse of what it should be IMO, the vote should pass unless the admin actively veto's it. This prevents inactive/uncaring admins to block restart votes.

That is all.

BYOND account: PinkyFluff
Character name: Nena Martins İ think
Ban type: Ban Evasion
Ban length: Permanent

Hey there again. I am overwriting ban appeals because i learned my lesson and i want
to be forgiven. I am so sorry about that mistake i will never do that again please forgive me <3

Look, I understand that having some kind of emergency system to let people know there's an atmos problem is necessary, but why is it like this? I've been through so many shifts where a minor hullbreach turns the station into a pitch black firelock hell with constant BRRRR BRRRR BRRRR in every room and it makes me want to pull my hair out every time it happens.

I have a few potential fixes for this.

Allow players to open non-heavy duty firelocks with right click, with no need for a crowbar
Reduce the...

Say I have two oranges. They look exceptionally tasty, but you don’t know this for sure as you can only see them. I’m holding them both in one hand and we are standing in a line at the grocery store. In your grocery cart, amongst many groceries, you have a clear, plastic bag filled with several oranges. They are small and feel a little mushy. You aren’t certain they’ll taste very good, but they were all you could find. You notice that I look visibly agitated (frowning, hand on my head, staring intently at...

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BYOND account: empressmaia
Character name: Nikola 'Chief' Eingen
Ban type: Server
Ban length: 1440 minutes
Ban reason: (MRP) As CE, escalated a fight to lethals because the Mime was making bad food , including Arnold pizza. Making food that harms someone isn't inherently a valid reason to crit them and them succumbing doesn't remove you from culpability. In the future, let Security handle matters like this.
Time ban was placed: 2023-02-05 17:38:30
Server you were playing on when banned: Manuel
Round...

As the title says. Currently revs have free pass to murderbone anything without the R floating above them, with a weak line of don't do anything that could inconvenience your team . I propose to change it into the current security post-rev. That means that revs would be free to kill: Heads of Staff, for obvious reasons, security, and anyone mindshielded. Everyone else would be allowed only if they directly threatened the revs.
The change would allow revolutions to involve more people than the current...

I've lost my passion for the game a while ago. Gimme some tips on how you have/would gotten yourself to enjoy the game again.

Thought I'd share some thoughts on map design, since I've been viewing a few new map ideas recently that played with pop extremes (skeleton crew).
Future maps should be designed a lot more stacked.
A lot of conflict in this game seems non-locationally relevant to others, and so only validhunters and those nearby really deal with conflict because the rest have no relation to it. Since we originally did not have multi-z, we were forced to make maps that sprawled outwards, but it seems that we can...

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Server-sybil
Byond account and character name- Mrgdkat and IGN Jay shoestring.
admin name- Rectification.
round 199446.
Detailed summary: All this started when the HOP decided he was going to creampie my face while i was in the middle of healing which i took no offense to whatever but once i stood up he decided to drop a banana peel and slip me and when i stood up again he slipped me once more this time i snatched the banana peel off the groound and slipped him back and said thats hilarious huh? and ran...

Let's say I fell deep into a coma in 2015 and woke up in the year of our lord 2023 with zero recollection of the intervening years on tg. What are the big changes to the maps played and how they're made? What's the new hotness? What cursed awful things do we need to contend with now?

Let me know. My head hurts.

I am FUCKING SICK of these idiots talking about vEnOm AnTaG and whenever they are questioned about it they just say vEnOm LiKe SpIdEr MaN FUCK YOU YOU LITTLE SHIT!! I WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE NEW ANTAG IS.

I think it's a good idea to have a console and a pad, similar to bounty console to sell stuff to CC, especially because you need wrapping paper, paper, export scanner and shit to sell stuff and then you gotta have it make to the cargo shuttle and not be opened by the cargo tech thinking oh waow mail . Can someone code that?

The title. There has been shifts where I and my fellow engineers slip into the supermatter (with magboots on!) because I was using the fire extinguisher on it 10 seconds earlier and the sm is back on fire. The ice under the door doesn't melt,(and I can't see it because there is a fire!) and as a result I slippy do dah into a delamming sm. Now I can see how removing the ability to slip on ice with magboots on can cause balance issues with void heretic. So as a solution I propose to make it so you slip but...

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Time ban was placed: 2022 11 29 00:56:44
Round ID in which ban was placed: 18098
Your side of the story: There was a massive fight in the Alamo, I was attacked, and I used a submachine gun to defend myself. Some guy didn't like it, and he killed me. After that, I was resuscitated, and we had a shootout. He killed me again and threw me into the garbage chute. At this point, I decide not to lose and...

There's been a lot of talk lately about how Space Law doesn't mesh well with existing rules (especially on the MRP ruleset). Quite a few members of the community have expressed interest in changing or re-writing it.

The headmin team is interested in hearing suggestions for revisions or total re-writes of space law.

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Introduction

Some of you may remember that last term, the headmins threw out a potential space law rewrite into the forums, found Here .
This term, I plan on going through and adjusting our current version of space law.

Space Law is quite dated and I believe it needs a good bit of modernization to match the current game state and lore a bit better.
I took a peak at Paradise Station's space law page a few months back and was pretty impressed - The layout is nice, not hard to follow and goes into good...