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𝘪 𝘮𝘢𝘺 𝘯𝘰𝘵 𝘣𝘦 𝘨𝘰𝘰𝘥 𝘢𝘵 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘴, 𝘴𝘰 𝘪'𝘷𝘦 𝘣𝘦𝘦𝘯 𝘸𝘰𝘯𝘥𝘦𝘳𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘢𝘣𝘰𝘶𝘵 𝘸𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘤𝘰𝘶𝘭𝘥 𝘣𝘦 𝘴𝘰𝘮𝘦 𝘦𝘢𝘴𝘺 𝘪𝘴𝘴𝘶𝘦𝘴 𝘵𝘰 𝘧𝘪𝘹 𝘧𝘰𝘳 𝘎𝘉𝘗? 𝘪'𝘷𝘦 𝘢𝘭𝘴𝘰 𝘣𝘦𝘦𝘯 𝘸𝘰𝘯𝘥𝘦𝘳𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘢𝘣𝘰𝘶𝘵 𝘸𝘩𝘦𝘳𝘦 𝘪𝘯 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘣𝘢𝘴𝘦𝘣𝘢𝘭𝘭 𝘣𝘢𝘵 𝘳𝘦𝘧𝘭𝘦𝘤𝘵 𝘤𝘰𝘥𝘦 𝘥𝘰𝘦𝘴 𝘪𝘵 𝘴𝘵𝘢𝘵𝘦 𝘸𝘩𝘪𝘤𝘩 𝘪𝘵𝘦𝘮𝘴 𝘢𝘳𝘦 𝘢𝘭𝘭𝘰𝘸𝘦𝘥 𝘵𝘰 𝘣𝘦 𝘳𝘦𝘵𝘶𝘳𝘯𝘦𝘥 𝘵𝘰 𝘴𝘦𝘯𝘥𝘦𝘳 𝘣𝘦𝘤𝘢𝘶𝘴𝘦 𝘪 𝘱𝘭𝘢𝘯 𝘵𝘰 𝘪𝘮𝘱𝘳𝘰𝘷𝘦 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘮𝘦𝘤𝘩𝘢𝘯𝘪𝘤 𝘵𝘰 𝘣𝘦 𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘱𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘣𝘭𝘦 𝘸𝘪𝘵𝘩 𝘰𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘳 𝘵𝘩𝘳𝘰𝘸𝘯 𝘪𝘵𝘦𝘮𝘴.

Had this idea cooking for while, and I have a feeling it could add some nice depth to the game. If you are unfamiliar with the idea of RPG stats, the concept is in essence numbers that reveal something about your character and make you better or more effective in things relating to that stat. Examples include DnD's charisma, or the Fallout Franchise's luck. Alot of SS13 servers have a mechanic like this as well.

Where my vision differs, there is no character creator element to this where you get to choose...

I've lost my passion for the game a while ago. Gimme some tips on how you have/would gotten yourself to enjoy the game again.

Roleplaying isn't (or at least it shouldn't be) having a polite conversation with someone. What happened to paranoia? Are people not comfortable hating or disliking someone in character but not out of character?
People don't want to offend others, people don't want to make people dislike them OCC. Whenever one person is trying to kill another person they usually try to be funny to show that out of character they are not serious and don't dislike you. This sucks for immersion. The MRP rules certainly aren't...

BYOND account: screm boi

character name: harry altman

ban type: server

ban length: 7 days

ban reason: I made a combat mech and killed a borg and disconnected mid ticket

time ban was placed: 2023-01-27 18;14;10

server you were playing on when banned: manuel

round id which ban was placed: 199016

your side of the story: yes i did make a combat mech with an lmg and drill but i didnt really used it on anyone besides that borg who was i presume malf since i think it was malf because we were handling a...

Note: this station layout is now outdated, but I'm keeping it for some archival purposes. See below ( for the new layout.
The year is 2561. Having managed Icebox outpost for 10 months, Nanotrasen has decided to upgrade a bit.

Pictured: ChilledStation's second floor.
Introducing: ChilledStation.
(Yes, I know a lot of you are probably familiar with it from discord, just let me have my moment damn it)
3 Z-Levels. 12 months. Countless hours. 3 iterations. 1 end product.

Now, as you'll have seen in...

Discord username: Tohg7.#6300

Commonly used names: Tohg7., No One in Particular, Vapes-Too-Much, Vapes-Two-Moffs

Banning admin: hulkamania

Ban reason: If there was one, i wasn't there to see it. It most likely wouldn't make a difference if i showed any kind of valid evidence about my side of the story as many people are downright unreasonable, even if the point made is valid in any capacity.

Your side of the story: Unnecessary for the reason above

Why you think you should be unbanned: Simply because i...

𝘸𝘦 𝘭𝘪𝘬𝘦 𝘵𝘰 𝘥𝘦𝘣𝘢𝘵𝘦 𝘢𝘯𝘺𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘦𝘷𝘦𝘳𝘺𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘢𝘭𝘭 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘵𝘪𝘮𝘦 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘪𝘵 𝘤𝘢𝘯 𝘣𝘦 𝘧𝘰𝘳 𝘢𝘯𝘺 𝘳𝘦𝘢𝘴𝘰𝘯. 𝘣𝘶𝘵 𝘪𝘯 𝘺𝘰𝘶𝘳 𝘰𝘱𝘪𝘯𝘪𝘰𝘯, 𝘪𝘯 𝘸𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘴𝘪𝘵𝘶𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯𝘴 𝘪𝘴 𝘥𝘦𝘣𝘢𝘵𝘦 𝘶𝘯𝘯𝘦𝘤𝘦𝘴𝘴𝘢𝘳𝘺?

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BYOND account: yertus
Character name: unknown
Ban type: server
Ban length: Permanent
Ban reason: Admitted to trolling a TG server based on reading the rules. purposefully handed out and then remote detonated a grenade on MRP server. when asked they said they came from goon to do some trolling.
Time ban was placed: 2022-12-12 17:57:58
Server you were playing on when banned: MANUEL
Round ID in which ban was placed: 196157
Your side of the story: i gave clown a primed maxcap grenade that was timed 1:06...

After both the policy bus and coderbus meetings the general consensus was TG was interested in going in a direction where heads were more meaningful/impactful to the round. I want to hear more thoughts on this, discuss.

Some food for thought:

Do we want administration to warn all heads of staff who do not show ample game knowledge? For example, a CE not knowing how to set up a basic SM setup without causing a delam, so the admin tells this player to play the station engineer role until they learn how to...

BYOND account: NikNakflak
Ban type: : FNR approval
Ban length: Permanent
Ban reason: Joke admin complaints are not allowed. User put on FNR post approval.
Time ban was placed: Mon Aug 22, 2022 3:37 pm
Your side of the story: Citrus kicked me from a discord channel because I made fun of his video game. I opened up a complaint in which mothblocks closed telling me to not be rude. It wasn't a serious complaint. Timbertoes then banned me from FNR for joke complaints. I then stayed banned from FNR for awhile...

𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘳𝘦'𝘴 𝘣𝘦𝘦𝘯 𝘲𝘶𝘪𝘵𝘦 𝘢 𝘧𝘦𝘸 𝘫𝘢𝘯𝘪𝘵𝘰𝘳 𝘵𝘦𝘤𝘩𝘯𝘪𝘲𝘶𝘦𝘴, 𝘭𝘪𝘬𝘦 𝘮𝘢𝘬𝘦𝘴𝘩𝘪𝘧𝘵 𝘸𝘢𝘵𝘦𝘳, 𝘢𝘤𝘪𝘥 𝘧𝘰𝘢𝘮 𝘰𝘳 𝘢𝘤𝘪𝘥 𝘴𝘱𝘳𝘢𝘺 𝘯𝘢𝘥𝘦𝘴 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘩𝘢𝘥 𝘮𝘦 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘬𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘪𝘧 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘳𝘦'𝘴 𝘢𝘯𝘺𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘤𝘢𝘯 𝘣𝘦 𝘥𝘰𝘯𝘦 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘤𝘰𝘶𝘭𝘥 𝘣𝘦 𝘥𝘰𝘯𝘦 𝘸𝘪𝘵𝘩 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘮𝘰𝘱 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘣𝘶𝘤𝘬𝘦𝘵?

𝘪'𝘷𝘦 𝘣𝘦𝘦𝘯 𝘸𝘰𝘯𝘥𝘦𝘳𝘪𝘯𝘨, 𝘪𝘧 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘤𝘩𝘢𝘱 𝘩𝘢𝘴 𝘢 𝘤𝘩𝘢𝘪𝘯𝘴𝘢𝘸 𝘢𝘳𝘮, 𝘪𝘵 𝘸𝘰𝘶𝘭𝘥 𝘮𝘢𝘬𝘦 𝘴𝘦𝘯𝘴𝘦 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘩𝘦 𝘸𝘰𝘶𝘭𝘥 𝘣𝘦 𝘢𝘣𝘭𝘦 𝘵𝘰 𝘱𝘶𝘮𝘱 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘧𝘪𝘳𝘦 𝘢 𝘴𝘩𝘰𝘵𝘨𝘶𝘯 𝘸𝘪𝘵𝘩 𝘰𝘯𝘦 𝘩𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘰𝘤𝘤𝘶𝘱𝘪𝘦𝘥 𝘢𝘧𝘵𝘦𝘳 𝘢 𝘣𝘳𝘪𝘦𝘧 𝘱𝘳𝘰𝘨𝘳𝘦𝘴𝘴 𝘣𝘢𝘳 𝘧𝘰𝘳 𝘱𝘶𝘮𝘱𝘪𝘯𝘨. 𝘪𝘵 𝘱𝘶𝘻𝘻𝘭𝘦𝘴 𝘮𝘦 𝘢𝘴 𝘵𝘰 𝘸𝘩𝘺 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘴 𝘪𝘴𝘯'𝘵 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘤𝘢𝘴𝘦.

This thread is meant to contain all gameplay-related feedback pertaining to the new Midround Antagonist, The Paradox Clone . This feature is not fully merged yet (as of Dec/27/2022), so please submit any technical bugs/glitches/concerns to the comments of the Github PR found at:

Otherwise, any policy concerns, gameplay feedback, or general commentary about how this antagonist performs in-game should be done in this forums thread. Please keep criticism as constructive as possible.

So due to the numerous complaints of players being toxic and salty because they were killed by a traitor in low pop rounds and admins being forced to break the rules to their own unfair advantage because they don't want to be killed on said low pop rounds, why not just get rid of antags all together on populations less than say 10-20 players?
This would ensure nobody gets hurt or removed from the rounds and it also ensures there's no conflict or excitement on the servers.

If people are getting noted,...

seriously like if we had poly powered by chat gpt or an ai it would be funny seeing people get confused if poly is another human or not

The title. There has been shifts where I and my fellow engineers slip into the supermatter (with magboots on!) because I was using the fire extinguisher on it 10 seconds earlier and the sm is back on fire. The ice under the door doesn't melt,(and I can't see it because there is a fire!) and as a result I slippy do dah into a delamming sm. Now I can see how removing the ability to slip on ice with magboots on can cause balance issues with void heretic. So as a solution I propose to make it so you slip but...

Lol

Clean up space law and make it policy on MRP only. Create a new Head of Staff called Judge who's sole purpose is hearing trials and authorizing re-education . Make security prove in court that the person they caught was committing the crime. During red alert, martial law is declared, and sec doesn't need trials to incarcerate, but its expected that an actual emergency should be happening for the station to be on red alert. This might give admins a bit more work but overall I think this would greatly...

That's it. That's the whole idea.

Still fits in security belts and sec clothing external storage.

Discord Username: Spider_Psycho#5789
Commonly Used Names: Cydya / SP / SpiderPsycho
Banning Admin: bowlofcereal#7574
Ban Reason:
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Time Ban Was Placed: 26/1/2023 (26th January)
Your Side of the Story: Someone said that the Queen should get a headbite but instead of a headbite it should be an ass-crush. I responded by saying queen thigh crush skull like watermelon or something to that effect. I posted some cursed stuff before, no images, and no detailed descriptions, and was warned for it. The...

What I am suggesting is a variation on Cult, that would be different in 2 distinct ways.
1. This cult would not have access to soulstones or cult constructs. Instead, when using a sacrifice on a living or dead crewmember, one of the adjacent cultists who doesn't yet have a holoparasite, or the cultist who is standing closest who does not yet have a holoparasite immediately get one using the ghost of the sacrificed person.
2. This cult would not attempt to summon narsie. Rather they will try to escape. If...

Nearly a decade has passed.

I based an entire satirical persona around telling you what would happen, I wrote paragraph after paragraph, meticulously crafting such a lengthy and obfuscated web of nuanced interpersonal relationships in hopes that the collective group of you would become aware of the slow internal rot you were facing. The joy you felt that you feel no more, the high you're chasing of rounds played long ago, on stations long since abandoned, with features long since removed, all washed...

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Thought I'd share some thoughts on map design, since I've been viewing a few new map ideas recently that played with pop extremes (skeleton crew).
Future maps should be designed a lot more stacked.
A lot of conflict in this game seems non-locationally relevant to others, and so only validhunters and those nearby really deal with conflict because the rest have no relation to it. Since we originally did not have multi-z, we were forced to make maps that sprawled outwards, but it seems that we can...

I really dont feel like following proper procedure for this ban as procedure for admin notes has not followed for me getting this

What is this what does it mean how do you even exploit using middle click its literary for swapping hands or pointing at things if I have used an exploit why Im I not banned?

thank philip thomas for me doing this was done all from his curiosity and I shift all the blame to them

Heretics very rarely ascend, and when they do it's either in a lowpop round or a round so insanely chaotic that they can sacrifice people in the open without stealth mattering. Most heretics don't use spells until they ascend because having a focus on you is equivalent to running around with a 357 in your belt slot as a traitor - you'd get instantly valided, and the spells aren't good enough to combat all of security and the validhunters that are on your tail.

The antag type is currently feast or famine -...

When and where this incident occured (Game Server, forums, Discord): Game Server (Terry)
Byond account and character name OR Discord name: Virescent-Anastasia Isaman
Admin: Justice12354
ROUND ID HERE IF APPLICABLE:
Detailed summary: So this was a lowpop round where I was a progtot. I quickly rushed the Legendary objective which was to turn people into zombies. I couldn't find anyone but one guy around the station, but he rage-quit after I killed him. There were only two possible targets remaining, two...

BYOND account: Qunk
Character name: Kolton Collins
Ban type: Engineer roles
Ban length: Permanent
Ban reason: Banned from Roles: Chief Engineer, engineering, Station Engineer, Atmospheric Technician permanently - Less than a month since your last TWO disposals-related jobbans/warnings, which were in turn less than a month since another one, rerouted general station disposals into an infinite loop. No better reason than i dunno man to be honest i got bored for it. If you can't save this behavior for when...

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Terry struggles with 80-90 pop rounds. Most subsystems are slowed significantly, and it becomes extremely obvious. I don't think there's a point in letting Terry reach 90 pop when we have Campbell.

What is talk/type baiting?
Talk/type baiting is the act of baiting someone to open the chat window before stunning/attacking them. An example, The HoS walks over to a station engineer, he asks the station engineer Why did I see you walking around medbay maint? . The station engineer goes to respond by opening the talk menu. As soon as the HoS sees the typing indicator he draws his stun baton and stuns the engineer. This gives the HoS a massive advantage in the fight making the engineer's chances of...

I am a viro player but I feel as if our current system is well lacking to say the least. Therefor I have come up with a solution, presenting Rex's viro rework:
Featuring all new systems, including but not limited to: Combo thresholds, carriers and amputation!

However, I do need some feedback mostly on the crew side mechanics as I have been in the highest spire of the INTERNAL DISCUSSIONS tower of viro for too long to understand the mere peons perspective. On a more serious note I hope this at least sparks some...

Can you imagine this kind of massacre happening on 2022 tg?????
Can you imagine your walking loot pinata (with shitty loot) antags being able to wipe a high pop round station???????????????
Can you imagine there being not a single die hard paramedic/assistant white knight hero at the antag's location the moment it gets announced because the antag is actually scary and not loot pinata and can RR you????? oh and it's not only antags, literary everything from random events to explosions, space and fire is 10...

If someone you are arresting yells out over common that sec is killing them when they are not, they become valid.

If someone falsely yells sec is beating them, they can be beaten to the point of having blunt wounds.

If they want to cry wolf over comms that sec is treating them unfairly, they can actually face whatever abuse they're falsely accusing sec of just to stir shit.

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What if we had the option to buy fake ID's cards with no access and can not be inserted into id consoles, they are printed with a single name and job that can't be changed after you buy it? (only sec officers can see if its fake by inspecting it like the captain and fake disks)

More homemade or bulky armor, a shield?

I'll come up with some more ideas for it later.

BYOND account: Timonk
Ban type: Soft Forum Ban
Ban length: Permanent?
Ban reason:
The following is a warning which has been issued to you by an administrator or moderator of this site. This is a warning regarding the following post made by you: .

You know better than to stir drama like this.

This warning, in combination with previous warnings and your general posting quality across the forum has resulted in a soft forum ban.

Your side of the story: you see, i looked at this thread and i saw...

Discord username: OKCOOL#4907
Commonly used names: LoveMirror, Lovecraft
Banning admin: Absolutely no idea, it was a moderator, I think (yellow/gold name, perhaps? Plus it was sometime ago.) EDIT: hulkamania
Ban reason: None provided, or none that I am able to remember. The ban was instant. EDIT: Reason: Just being an overall intentionally toxic person over the course of their time here.
Time ban was placed: Sometime between 2020-2021? Possibly Q1-Q2 of 2021.
Your side of the story: Arguing with a...

BYOND account:Highlander3BW

Character name: Joseph Gaiman

Ban type:Server

Ban length:3 day's

Ban reason:Banned by host: You or another user of this computer or connection (Highlander3BW) is banned from playing here. The ban reason is:Has a small history of inciting violence as a non-antagonist, and when deconverted from a revolutionary, continued attacking the security officers as a non-antagonist that had deconverted them (with a IC justification of 'They killed the HoP', which doesn't amount to...