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So, a part of silicon policy in regard to asimov states that:

When given an order likely to cause you grief if completed, you can announce it as loudly and in whatever terms you like except for explicitly asking that it be overridden. You can say you don't like the order, that you don't want to follow it, etc., you can say that you sure would like it and it would be awfully convenient if someone ordered you not to do it, and you can ask if anyone would like to make you not do it. However, you cannot...

BYOND account: Shirbu, but the user banned was PuffingFish
Ban type: N/A
Ban length: Permanent
Ban reason:

Time ban was placed: Jan 9th, 2023 according to the ban, but I was able to play on Sybil one or two days prior to today.
Server you were playing on when banned: N/A
Round ID in which ban was placed: 197936
Your side of the story: I've not connected for more than an hour in the last few months. I have one ckey, but I've moved to an apartment in the last 2 years, so the IP address might be...

As far as I know when there is an admin on a restart vote only succeeds when an admin is on if the admin takes action to let it pass.

This is the reverse of what it should be IMO, the vote should pass unless the admin actively veto's it. This prevents inactive/uncaring admins to block restart votes.

That is all.

So. This is admittedly anecdotal, but it's reaching the point where I wanna try and do something about it, and I'm pretty sure spawn rates are config.

Blob's is way too high. It's reaching the point where I'm starting to see one every second shift, including on Low Pop when the crew's like, 15 people. For a Round-ending antag, that's far too high. Especially for one that actively requires a large crew size to combat it.

Blobs are fine in small doses, but when you see them every second round, they grow...

Let's say I fell deep into a coma in 2015 and woke up in the year of our lord 2023 with zero recollection of the intervening years on tg. What are the big changes to the maps played and how they're made? What's the new hotness? What cursed awful things do we need to contend with now?

Let me know. My head hurts.

Roleplaying isn't (or at least it shouldn't be) having a polite conversation with someone. What happened to paranoia? Are people not comfortable hating or disliking someone in character but not out of character?
People don't want to offend others, people don't want to make people dislike them OCC. Whenever one person is trying to kill another person they usually try to be funny to show that out of character they are not serious and don't dislike you. This sucks for immersion. The MRP rules certainly aren't...

Im a big fan of music and sometimes when im in the right mood merely the lyrics of a song satisfy something in me so ill post them here and u should too!!

Give me space birds so I can stop burning out every time I try to map a tradepost for them.

When and where this incident occured (Game Server, forums, Discord): Game Server (Terry)
Byond account and character name OR Discord name: Virescent-Anastasia Isaman
Admin: Justice12354
ROUND ID HERE IF APPLICABLE:
Detailed summary: So this was a lowpop round where I was a progtot. I quickly rushed the Legendary objective which was to turn people into zombies. I couldn't find anyone but one guy around the station, but he rage-quit after I killed him. There were only two possible targets remaining, two...

I've lost my passion for the game a while ago. Gimme some tips on how you have/would gotten yourself to enjoy the game again.

As the title says. Currently revs have free pass to murderbone anything without the R floating above them, with a weak line of don't do anything that could inconvenience your team . I propose to change it into the current security post-rev. That means that revs would be free to kill: Heads of Staff, for obvious reasons, security, and anyone mindshielded. Everyone else would be allowed only if they directly threatened the revs.
The change would allow revolutions to involve more people than the current...

The title. There has been shifts where I and my fellow engineers slip into the supermatter (with magboots on!) because I was using the fire extinguisher on it 10 seconds earlier and the sm is back on fire. The ice under the door doesn't melt,(and I can't see it because there is a fire!) and as a result I slippy do dah into a delamming sm. Now I can see how removing the ability to slip on ice with magboots on can cause balance issues with void heretic. So as a solution I propose to make it so you slip but...

if a man cannot trust his fellow man with the freedom to bear his own mistakes under the watchful eye and cleansing scorn of his fellows, then he is neither a man or deserving of the freedom of expression

the system in which you have constructed is built on the philosophy of absolute order, enforced through the cold enactment of divine justice.

that same justice is neither divine nor justice, there is only divinity in letting your fellow man be policed by not himself, but you, not a higher power.

i...

These are the results from the Community Survey questions that I set up polls for in-game during the latter half of January 2023
The survey questions were on a standard 7 point scale, with 1 being lowest and 7 being highest. It ran for around two weeks.

How would you describe your overall satisfaction with the admin team? (Raw Results)

When you ahelp over rulebreaks, generally how satisfied are you with admin response? (Raw Results)
When you ahelp for help with game mechanics, generally how...

After way too long in drafting and with a significant amount of time staring at words until they make sense again, I finally have a draft for the proposed new naming policy that the admin and headmin teams don't hate enough to release publicly for the community to have a look at.

This draft isn't final, and is still open to changes, but is likely pretty close to what we're looking for in the final policy. If you've got any feedback, you can post it here or/and in the policybus thread I'll be putting up...

BYOND account: Jackrip

Character name: Korol Konets

Ban type: Blacklist, discord + server + forums

Ban length: Permanent

Ban reason: Joked about doxing an administrator and posted their social media account in another discord. This is not acceptable and per Rule 7,Doxing and SWATing: Doing it, encouraging it, or joking about it will lead to a permanent in-game, Discord, and forum ban.

Time ban was placed: 2021-05-27 02:04:22

Server you were playing on when banned: N/A

Round ID in which ban...

Discord username: Tohg7.#6300

Commonly used names: Tohg7., No One in Particular, Vapes-Too-Much, Vapes-Two-Moffs

Banning admin: hulkamania

Ban reason: If there was one, i wasn't there to see it. It most likely wouldn't make a difference if i showed any kind of valid evidence about my side of the story as many people are downright unreasonable, even if the point made is valid in any capacity.

Your side of the story: Unnecessary for the reason above

Why you think you should be unbanned: Simply because i...

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BYOND account: LoveMirror
Character name: Sherry Cherry
Ban type: Server Ban
Ban length: Permanent
Ban reason: Griefing FOB as CAS
Time ban was placed: 31-01-2023, 20:49 CET
Round ID in which ban was placed: 19392
Your side of the story: I strafed a cow with a minigun from the CaS ship after the nuke was going to go off in 20s. I asked for permission from the Captain previously, and he said after nuke, so I asked again and saw granted . Unfortunately, I now see it was a SYNTH that said it on the...

this is just an idea but its arguably better in every way than whatever HRP shit is going on with the other naming policy draft (perhaps stolen from bee's naming policy but reworked for TG and not be aids)

Human: Normal human names, the kind that won’t raise an eyebrow if you chose to name your child, although references or names that mention real people are more restricted (e.g. names like Carl Marks are not allowed). This applies to all other races that reference human names. Human names can include...

So due to the numerous complaints of players being toxic and salty because they were killed by a traitor in low pop rounds and admins being forced to break the rules to their own unfair advantage because they don't want to be killed on said low pop rounds, why not just get rid of antags all together on populations less than say 10-20 players?
This would ensure nobody gets hurt or removed from the rounds and it also ensures there's no conflict or excitement on the servers.

If people are getting noted,...

𝘸𝘦 𝘭𝘪𝘬𝘦 𝘵𝘰 𝘥𝘦𝘣𝘢𝘵𝘦 𝘢𝘯𝘺𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘦𝘷𝘦𝘳𝘺𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘢𝘭𝘭 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘵𝘪𝘮𝘦 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘪𝘵 𝘤𝘢𝘯 𝘣𝘦 𝘧𝘰𝘳 𝘢𝘯𝘺 𝘳𝘦𝘢𝘴𝘰𝘯. 𝘣𝘶𝘵 𝘪𝘯 𝘺𝘰𝘶𝘳 𝘰𝘱𝘪𝘯𝘪𝘰𝘯, 𝘪𝘯 𝘸𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘴𝘪𝘵𝘶𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯𝘴 𝘪𝘴 𝘥𝘦𝘣𝘢𝘵𝘦 𝘶𝘯𝘯𝘦𝘤𝘦𝘴𝘴𝘢𝘳𝘺?

:honkman: Share clown antics that you actually enjoyed here. :honkman:

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I've raised this proposal a couple times in admin channels, and it's generally approved of there, so I'm gonna post it out here to get more feedback on what the wider Manuel audience thinks of it.

Manuel's been having consistent issues for months centred around low energy rounds where nothing really happens, and I think a large part of the reason for this is the massive negative interaction between the murderbone rules as written and any attempt to engage in large-scale station sabotage. Under the current...

𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘳𝘦'𝘴 𝘣𝘦𝘦𝘯 𝘲𝘶𝘪𝘵𝘦 𝘢 𝘧𝘦𝘸 𝘫𝘢𝘯𝘪𝘵𝘰𝘳 𝘵𝘦𝘤𝘩𝘯𝘪𝘲𝘶𝘦𝘴, 𝘭𝘪𝘬𝘦 𝘮𝘢𝘬𝘦𝘴𝘩𝘪𝘧𝘵 𝘸𝘢𝘵𝘦𝘳, 𝘢𝘤𝘪𝘥 𝘧𝘰𝘢𝘮 𝘰𝘳 𝘢𝘤𝘪𝘥 𝘴𝘱𝘳𝘢𝘺 𝘯𝘢𝘥𝘦𝘴 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘩𝘢𝘥 𝘮𝘦 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘬𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘪𝘧 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘳𝘦'𝘴 𝘢𝘯𝘺𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘤𝘢𝘯 𝘣𝘦 𝘥𝘰𝘯𝘦 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘤𝘰𝘶𝘭𝘥 𝘣𝘦 𝘥𝘰𝘯𝘦 𝘸𝘪𝘵𝘩 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘮𝘰𝘱 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘣𝘶𝘤𝘬𝘦𝘵?

Give your reasons for why a high-tech science station over 500 years in the future still uses:
Wood pulp-based paper (We don't have holographic reading devices and whatnot? Who still has filing cabinets in the year 2557?)
Clunky PDAs straight out of the 1990s
Syringes (especially since actual hyposprays are probably going to come out in the next decade or two)
Non-replicated food (They can't make this taste good yet?)
Unsynthesized meat (Why waste energy on raising animals at all?)
Invasive surgeries...

BYOND account: yertus
Character name: unknown
Ban type: server
Ban length: Permanent
Ban reason: Admitted to trolling a TG server based on reading the rules. purposefully handed out and then remote detonated a grenade on MRP server. when asked they said they came from goon to do some trolling.
Time ban was placed: 2022-12-12 17:57:58
Server you were playing on when banned: MANUEL
Round ID in which ban was placed: 196157
Your side of the story: i gave clown a primed maxcap grenade that was timed 1:06...

Had this idea cooking for while, and I have a feeling it could add some nice depth to the game. If you are unfamiliar with the idea of RPG stats, the concept is in essence numbers that reveal something about your character and make you better or more effective in things relating to that stat. Examples include DnD's charisma, or the Fallout Franchise's luck. Alot of SS13 servers have a mechanic like this as well.

Where my vision differs, there is no character creator element to this where you get to choose...

𝘪 𝘮𝘢𝘺 𝘯𝘰𝘵 𝘣𝘦 𝘨𝘰𝘰𝘥 𝘢𝘵 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘴, 𝘴𝘰 𝘪'𝘷𝘦 𝘣𝘦𝘦𝘯 𝘸𝘰𝘯𝘥𝘦𝘳𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘢𝘣𝘰𝘶𝘵 𝘸𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘤𝘰𝘶𝘭𝘥 𝘣𝘦 𝘴𝘰𝘮𝘦 𝘦𝘢𝘴𝘺 𝘪𝘴𝘴𝘶𝘦𝘴 𝘵𝘰 𝘧𝘪𝘹 𝘧𝘰𝘳 𝘎𝘉𝘗? 𝘪'𝘷𝘦 𝘢𝘭𝘴𝘰 𝘣𝘦𝘦𝘯 𝘸𝘰𝘯𝘥𝘦𝘳𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘢𝘣𝘰𝘶𝘵 𝘸𝘩𝘦𝘳𝘦 𝘪𝘯 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘣𝘢𝘴𝘦𝘣𝘢𝘭𝘭 𝘣𝘢𝘵 𝘳𝘦𝘧𝘭𝘦𝘤𝘵 𝘤𝘰𝘥𝘦 𝘥𝘰𝘦𝘴 𝘪𝘵 𝘴𝘵𝘢𝘵𝘦 𝘸𝘩𝘪𝘤𝘩 𝘪𝘵𝘦𝘮𝘴 𝘢𝘳𝘦 𝘢𝘭𝘭𝘰𝘸𝘦𝘥 𝘵𝘰 𝘣𝘦 𝘳𝘦𝘵𝘶𝘳𝘯𝘦𝘥 𝘵𝘰 𝘴𝘦𝘯𝘥𝘦𝘳 𝘣𝘦𝘤𝘢𝘶𝘴𝘦 𝘪 𝘱𝘭𝘢𝘯 𝘵𝘰 𝘪𝘮𝘱𝘳𝘰𝘷𝘦 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘮𝘦𝘤𝘩𝘢𝘯𝘪𝘤 𝘵𝘰 𝘣𝘦 𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘱𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘣𝘭𝘦 𝘸𝘪𝘵𝘩 𝘰𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘳 𝘵𝘩𝘳𝘰𝘸𝘯 𝘪𝘵𝘦𝘮𝘴.

Note: this station layout is now outdated, but I'm keeping it for some archival purposes. See below ( for the new layout.
The year is 2561. Having managed Icebox outpost for 10 months, Nanotrasen has decided to upgrade a bit.

Pictured: ChilledStation's second floor.
Introducing: ChilledStation.
(Yes, I know a lot of you are probably familiar with it from discord, just let me have my moment damn it)
3 Z-Levels. 12 months. Countless hours. 3 iterations. 1 end product.

Now, as you'll have seen in...

After both the policy bus and coderbus meetings the general consensus was TG was interested in going in a direction where heads were more meaningful/impactful to the round. I want to hear more thoughts on this, discuss.

Some food for thought:

Do we want administration to warn all heads of staff who do not show ample game knowledge? For example, a CE not knowing how to set up a basic SM setup without causing a delam, so the admin tells this player to play the station engineer role until they learn how to...