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It feels to me that the process of making balancing changes could use work. Quite often issues are debated in length but even for the issues that reach consensus quite often nothing is done in terms of making actual PRs. I feel a large part of this is that every balance change is by default met with resistance and people don't know if their effort will go to waste. It is way more fun and often easier accepted to just slap a new feature together. I think it would really help if there was more structure to...

Your selectable age as a character is hardcoded to be between 17 and 85. It seems reasonable that someone running TG code may want to raise these numbers.

BYOND account: ImBubbl101
Character name: (dont remember)
Ban type: All servers (aside from TGMC)
Ban length: permanent
Ban reason: as a non antagonist, broke open a plasma glass container and let hot plasma leak the shuttle because he was trolling
Time ban was placed: 2021-06-27. 17:21
Server you were playing on when banned: Terry
Round ID in which ban was placed: 164910
Your side of the story: I really dont have a reason, thought it would be funny
Why you think you should be unbanned: its been a while...

I've read previous threads on this and understand how drones are hellish to balance.

Also, as per previous posts, they're virtually unplayable - not the least of which is the fact that you have to have joined and loaded the dispenser because no one else does it and it starts unloaded.

Consider instead of*** having drone access by default (after x hours) and rescinded after shittery, have it be unavailable until explicitly granted, maybe associated with a discord account plus playtime or something. It...

The Navigation menu is a replacement for our prior system of directional pinpointers and the directionally challenged perk. It's pretty good! However, if you take the blind quirk, the navigation line only extends in a one tile radius around you and is greyscale. Given how rapid station designs can change due to our dedicated team of mappers and coders I think it would be better if the navigation line was 1. in color and 2. appeared over the blind overlay. I think it is reasonable that Nanotrasen employees...

Chameleon Projector usage makes your claustrophobia kick in! Not fun to find out.

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This is mostly a continuation of this thread of course: But It is an actual implementable proposal instead of a general discussion and I think it is good to separate the two.

I think silicons should be exempt from rule 4, specifically the part about being able to treat antagonists like you want. Why? Because without this they will never be a third party, just validhunters with varying amounts of limitation.

Antag status is too deeply ingrained in all silicon thinking, currently even human traitors get...

I feel like the direction the game is going is that every job is becoming more complex and that they require more and more experience to perform. I personally think that more complex =/= better by definition.

There was a time when I was able to perform every job on the station and it felt really good to use these systems as a traitor to achieve your goals. Quickly hop into chemistry, make some useful poisons or other stuff and use them for your shenanigans. Nowadays I just avoid doing that because the...

Heretics very rarely ascend, and when they do it's either in a lowpop round or a round so insanely chaotic that they can sacrifice people in the open without stealth mattering. Most heretics don't use spells until they ascend because having a focus on you is equivalent to running around with a 357 in your belt slot as a traitor - you'd get instantly valided, and the spells aren't good enough to combat all of security and the validhunters that are on your tail.

The antag type is currently feast or famine -...

The changes:
Mechs should be able to open stuff like they're holding a crowbar - firelocks and de-powered doors.

I feel like this shouldn't be too controversial an idea, but here's my reasoning:
It's a complete embarrassment to be marching around in a durand and not be able to open a firelock - but also able to punch it down! Similarly, for the odysseus and clarke, being able to respond to emergencies like fires or hull breaches is rendered almost completely moot, since firelocks always come down; I don't...

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I've noticed this pattern of players who are so invested in their characters/winning that they cannot accept death, or loss.
It upsets me because it leads to behavior counter to what I believe the game to be about, like intentionally not killing/reviving after targets as antags because they're my friends/I don't want to be mean , or getting so wrapped up in winning that you ruin the story of the round.

I believe this is a player mindset issue, caused by time and coders slowly taking the edge off things,...

Replica Pods have been around for a long time, but with cloning removed they've never gotten much of a spotlight. Fear of the coders removing it to I suspect. It does have a lot of room in terms of gameplay space, what I'm proposing would be a spin on Revolution.
Invasion of the body snatchers: At fixed point in maintenance, a special plant tray and locker would spawn. A special plant tray that automatically harvests whenever the entity that has put their blood into the replica pod dies. The locker would...

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Ban type:Server
Ban length:Permanent
Ban reason:Multi-Key/Ban Evasion
Time ban was placed:2022-06-23 01:33:39
Server you were playing on when banned:Terry
Round ID in which ban was placed:185390
Your side of the story:I had no bans or anything I just played from different accounts and got banned.
Why you think you should be unbanned:I only played on different accounts and never violated the rules.I don't see a reason to be banned.
Anything else we should...

BYOND account: Spagghettip
Character name: Chad Joney
Ban type: Server
Ban length: Permanent
Ban reason: Murdered a couple of people using a flash and a shoves into an electrified grid. When asked to explain their actions in PM, they said no goodbye and disconnected. Assumed bad faith player.
Time ban was placed: 2021-09-28 23:07:17
Server you were playing on when banned: Bagil or Sybil. Can't remember
Round ID in which ban was placed: 170417
Your side of the story: Its been about a year so I don't...

So, let's face it. SS13 is played in a way, way, way more powergame manner here in TYOOL 2022 compared to when all the rules about not pre-emptively prepping for malf AI were written and designed.

Those rules were written for an era where the crew was not roundstart arming for war ops tier threats every shift and security wasn't allowed to antag check random people via shotgunning them into crit, checking their bags for antag items, and leaving them in medbay lobby dying if they find none. The fact of the...

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I think stasis beds as a concept are flawed. They take away to most thrilling aspect of our medicine system namely the time pressure. There are already plenty of medicines or methods you can use to stabilise a patients, the sleeper just makes everything non-urgent.

This would essentially mean that you can only write/message in languages your character knows. So a felind would only be able to write in Galactic Common or cat language, and only people who know these would be able to read these messages. Would not change gameplay much aside from maybe people needing a translator to read messages on stolen PDAs and would keep people from bypassing my clueless foreigner not knowing a language by exploiting papers/pdas to ignore it, then getting frustrated at me for...

The new escalation policy confuses me and I'd like to open a discussion about it to get clarification.

If an arrest is not obviously valid, it follows standard escalation Non-antag players may lose any OOC and IC protections if they choose this path and should consider ahelping if they believe they did nothing to warrant being arrested.

In resisting arrest, non-antags should not loot officers and should not detain or incapacitate officers any longer than is necessary to escape or explain themselves....

LIKE A BOLT FROM THE BLUE, IT'S TIME FOR TRIALMIN REVIEW.

Pandarsenic has now been in the .txt as a Trial Admin for roughly two months.

Please use this thread as public review; it's encouraged for players to comment on how well/badly the trial admin has done and whether or not they think the trial admin should be made a full admin, if they should be removed from the .txt or if their promotion should be delayed.

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BYOND account: (mine is): WILL IT CRUNCH

Character name: Nle Glopnar

Ban type: ban-evading

Ban length: Permanent

Ban reason: Ban-Evading alt of Ktrkhop

Time ban was placed: 09-08-2022 03:17:43

Server you were playing on when banned: No idea, i only play terry.

Round ID in which ban was placed: round ID 188180

Your side of the story: Im not sure? Only thing i can thing of, if someone else on the barracks had decided to play SS13. As we all used the same wifi provider

Why you think you...

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BYOND account: Cornflakes2226
Character name: Max Butkus
Ban type: Server
Ban length: Permanent
Ban reason:Ban Evasion
Time ban was placed: 15:20:17 I do not have access to this account anymore,I do not know the exact time unfortunately I provided my original perma ban time
Server you were playing on when banned: Terry
Round ID in which ban was placed: 177670 this is the ID of my original permanent ban, I do not have access to Cornflakes2226 anymore and I do not know the ID
Your side of the story: I have...

The following components that are listed below can only be made using map maker or admin tools but i would like to see these features available in game for the following reasons i will list below

1)Gas sensor
Path : obj/machinery/air_sensor Screenshot (7).png
Purpose : currently used inside tank chambers located in atmospherics for monitering gases inside them
Reason : Engineering protolathe after research can manufacture new HFR components to create more hypertorus reactors.
This reactor produces a...

Discord username: Typhnox#7258
Commonly used names: Alice Heart
Ban reason: According to the warning I was given by a bot: Consistently causes large amounts of community drama by defending lolicon.
Time ban was placed: 8/2/2022, 2:22pm Pacific
Your side of the story: I was chatting away in the political containment discord channel, literally arguing for about an hour and a half to two hours for an age of consent increase to 25, before I suddenly started getting pinged and accused of being a pedo...

Platform : Tg Station Github

Byond Server : windows 514.1585 installer

Hosted a local private server and i'm the only person playing in it just to see whats up. Also been playing this game for just 2 months and this is my first time ever posting here

So I've been playing around with hypertorus reactor in atmospherics and rather than storing the gases produced from it in cannisters I decided instead to build dedicated chambers for storing them similar to the existing chambers for o2 , n2 and other...

BYOND account:Decker-5
Character name:Arne Magnusson
Ban type: Server
Ban length:7 Days
Ban reason: ''One of two non-antags set off napalm grenades on the emergency shuttle, flushing some people into space, killing others. Has a previous note for incendiary grenades on the shuttle.''
Time ban was placed:2022-08-06 20:58:00 UTC +3
Server you were playing on when banned: Terry
Round ID in which ban was placed: ID 188040,
Your side of the story: It was a pretty empty shift, I had 2 hellfoam grenades...

BYOND account: Muffindrake
Character name: Baal-Fur
Ban type: Note
Ban length: -
Ban reason: As a non-antag atmos tech cut all Air Alarm AI control wires in atmospherics, has been advised that they should not do this without a reason to belive that the AI is antagonistic in nature.
Time ban was placed: 2022-08-06 14:05:54
Server you were playing on when banned: Terry
Round ID in which ban was placed: 188025
Your side of the story: I cut the AI access wire in all Atmospherics air alarms to avoid...

I will post dumb smooth brain thoughts here

Because I can and need an outlet for them
Maybe at least one a day

Are quebecois snow cajuns

honestly, i find eyes in the dark and deformed faces is the shit, gets me cold and shaking

the dark tall man staring at you in the corner is so fucking creepy.

empty spaces are also pretty creepy for me, its just.. unnerving

analog horror best horror

BYOND account: Saturniidae
Character name: Timothy Empyrea
Ban type: Note
Ban length: Permanent
Ban reason: Warned not to use OOC terms like Antag and discuss not playing antagonists IC
Time ban was placed: 2022-08-06 17:23:01 | Sybil | Round 188030
Server you were playing on when banned: Sybil
Round ID in which ban was placed: 188030
Your side of the story: I was sitting in the roundend shuttle in the sec room with HoS and another sec officer when we were looting the body of a confirmed traitor,...

BYOND account: empressmaia
Character name: Maia Roentgen
Ban type: Abductor, Xenomorph, Blob, Blood Brother, Changeling, Cultist, Heretic, Hivemind Host, Malf AI, Space Ninja, Operative, Syndicate Mutineer, Revolutionary, Revenant, Head Revolutionary, Spider, Syndicate, Traitor, Wizard
Ban length: Permanent
Ban reason: (MRP) As a traitor shaft miner, spaced the emergency shuttle using X-4, killing or critting a majority of the crew. Has already been noted/banned multiple times for either murderbone or...

Floating this idea for some time and after a recent discussion on Sybil, took the opportunity to put it together.

Death is only the beginning

For years Nanotrasen dealt with a fair share of supernatural enemies such as wizards, vampires, zombies, revenants and blood cults, so why not throwing another horror staple into the fray? Enter the Space Mummy, a creature that's the embalmed body of a notorious member of a lost spacefaring civilization.

Once triggered as a midround antagonist, a mysterious...