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When a traitor takes a final objective, they can no longer take any more objectives and are automatically awarded greentext. Most final objectives are usually station destruction or mass panic/mayhem, so it would make sense that (on MRP) traitors would be allowed to do whatever they want now that they've reached their final objective.

It's similar to heretic ascension or AI going delta, since their goals are usually focused on causing as much death as possible. Final objectives are still an optional...

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Character name: Zachary Hensha
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Your selectable age as a character is hardcoded to be between 17 and 85. It seems reasonable that someone running TG code may want to raise these numbers.

Chameleon Projector usage makes your claustrophobia kick in! Not fun to find out.

Playing Sunless Seas recently, the Seven Canto Ambition was a pretty great. It makes me question if /tg/station books could have an in game effect.
Here's what I am suggesting. After getting a certain accomplishment, the next book a player writes and autographs will cause other players who read it to get a minor benefit. I don't want assistants running to the library, printing out the same 5 books and unlocking every perk every round, so the library catalog has no game effect.
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Came up with it when playing with holodisks & projecting messages onto the altar/using the request AI presence button .

On a lot of maps, the chapel has a holopad placed as a centerpiece. A chaplain inputs the initial prayer asking for an audience, administrator chooses the form to appear as (for instance, right now AIs are a Cortana-esque thing by default but can display as Nar'Sie) and the hijinks ensue.

A remark in dead chat during one of the gang rounds yesterday got me thinking: what if the AI/Silicons could also be officially chosen as a gang of sorts for Gang mode? I mean, the objectives for both round types are kind of similar in their own ways, and with a few modifications I think that it could be an interesting twist on the typical Gang round.

-The AI cannot either cannot shunt, or Gangsters should have access to pinpointers once the AI goes Delta
-Instead of starting with all the Malf abilities...

Nothing particularly fancy but this is a watered down version of what i was thinking about earlier today, the full monty idea could be its own server...

> Boxstation gets a revamp to be a medieval castle with stone walls replacing regular walls and reinforced metal foundations in the place of our plasteel walls, much of the machinery & jobs are jiggled about, just for a one off or specially arranged medieval mode round. It could even be the effect of a certain wizard spell to aesthetically & practically...

I feel like the direction the game is going is that every job is becoming more complex and that they require more and more experience to perform. I personally think that more complex =/= better by definition.

There was a time when I was able to perform every job on the station and it felt really good to use these systems as a traitor to achieve your goals. Quickly hop into chemistry, make some useful poisons or other stuff and use them for your shenanigans. Nowadays I just avoid doing that because the...

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Ban length: permanent
Ban reason: as a non antagonist, broke open a plasma glass container and let hot plasma leak the shuttle because he was trolling
Time ban was placed: 2021-06-27. 17:21
Server you were playing on when banned: Terry
Round ID in which ban was placed: 164910
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BYOND account: abearirl
Character name: kingston hujsak
Ban type: silicon jobban
Ban length: Permanent
Ban reason: Banned from Cyborg - Remodeled the permabrig to an almost unusable state: One enterance, and plenty of spare metal/table parts for the prisoners to access. Directly caused the repeated escape of two people.
Time ban was placed: too old 2013-03-26 00:00:00
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It feels to me that the process of making balancing changes could use work. Quite often issues are debated in length but even for the issues that reach consensus quite often nothing is done in terms of making actual PRs. I feel a large part of this is that every balance change is by default met with resistance and people don't know if their effort will go to waste. It is way more fun and often easier accepted to just slap a new feature together. I think it would really help if there was more structure to...

So, let's face it. SS13 is played in a way, way, way more powergame manner here in TYOOL 2022 compared to when all the rules about not pre-emptively prepping for malf AI were written and designed.

Those rules were written for an era where the crew was not roundstart arming for war ops tier threats every shift and security wasn't allowed to antag check random people via shotgunning them into crit, checking their bags for antag items, and leaving them in medbay lobby dying if they find none. The fact of the...

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BYOND account:Zipzipzapityzoo
Character name: Brick Kiefer
Ban type:Perma
Ban length:Indefinite
Ban reason:As the CMO, killed and decapitated the warden, bombed his corpse, and then went on to bomb medbay as a non antag. Lied in ahelps. This seems like typical griefing. Appeal on forums if you think this is an error.
Time ban was placed: 2022-08-13 07:24:16
Server you were playing on when banned:Sybil
Round ID in which ban was placed:188440
Your side of the story:I don't know how else to give my...

I've read previous threads on this and understand how drones are hellish to balance.

Also, as per previous posts, they're virtually unplayable - not the least of which is the fact that you have to have joined and loaded the dispenser because no one else does it and it starts unloaded.

Consider instead of*** having drone access by default (after x hours) and rescinded after shittery, have it be unavailable until explicitly granted, maybe associated with a discord account plus playtime or something. It...

The Navigation menu is a replacement for our prior system of directional pinpointers and the directionally challenged perk. It's pretty good! However, if you take the blind quirk, the navigation line only extends in a one tile radius around you and is greyscale. Given how rapid station designs can change due to our dedicated team of mappers and coders I think it would be better if the navigation line was 1. in color and 2. appeared over the blind overlay. I think it is reasonable that Nanotrasen employees...

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This is mostly a continuation of this thread of course: But It is an actual implementable proposal instead of a general discussion and I think it is good to separate the two.

I think silicons should be exempt from rule 4, specifically the part about being able to treat antagonists like you want. Why? Because without this they will never be a third party, just validhunters with varying amounts of limitation.

Antag status is too deeply ingrained in all silicon thinking, currently even human traitors get...

Heretics very rarely ascend, and when they do it's either in a lowpop round or a round so insanely chaotic that they can sacrifice people in the open without stealth mattering. Most heretics don't use spells until they ascend because having a focus on you is equivalent to running around with a 357 in your belt slot as a traitor - you'd get instantly valided, and the spells aren't good enough to combat all of security and the validhunters that are on your tail.

The antag type is currently feast or famine -...

The changes:
Mechs should be able to open stuff like they're holding a crowbar - firelocks and de-powered doors.

I feel like this shouldn't be too controversial an idea, but here's my reasoning:
It's a complete embarrassment to be marching around in a durand and not be able to open a firelock - but also able to punch it down! Similarly, for the odysseus and clarke, being able to respond to emergencies like fires or hull breaches is rendered almost completely moot, since firelocks always come down; I don't...

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I've noticed this pattern of players who are so invested in their characters/winning that they cannot accept death, or loss.
It upsets me because it leads to behavior counter to what I believe the game to be about, like intentionally not killing/reviving after targets as antags because they're my friends/I don't want to be mean , or getting so wrapped up in winning that you ruin the story of the round.

I believe this is a player mindset issue, caused by time and coders slowly taking the edge off things,...

Replica Pods have been around for a long time, but with cloning removed they've never gotten much of a spotlight. Fear of the coders removing it to I suspect. It does have a lot of room in terms of gameplay space, what I'm proposing would be a spin on Revolution.
Invasion of the body snatchers: At fixed point in maintenance, a special plant tray and locker would spawn. A special plant tray that automatically harvests whenever the entity that has put their blood into the replica pod dies. The locker would...

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Time ban was placed:2022-06-23 01:33:39
Server you were playing on when banned:Terry
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Your side of the story:I had no bans or anything I just played from different accounts and got banned.
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BYOND account: Spagghettip
Character name: Chad Joney
Ban type: Server
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Ban reason: Murdered a couple of people using a flash and a shoves into an electrified grid. When asked to explain their actions in PM, they said no goodbye and disconnected. Assumed bad faith player.
Time ban was placed: 2021-09-28 23:07:17
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I think stasis beds as a concept are flawed. They take away to most thrilling aspect of our medicine system namely the time pressure. There are already plenty of medicines or methods you can use to stabilise a patients, the sleeper just makes everything non-urgent.

This would essentially mean that you can only write/message in languages your character knows. So a felind would only be able to write in Galactic Common or cat language, and only people who know these would be able to read these messages. Would not change gameplay much aside from maybe people needing a translator to read messages on stolen PDAs and would keep people from bypassing my clueless foreigner not knowing a language by exploiting papers/pdas to ignore it, then getting frustrated at me for...

The new escalation policy confuses me and I'd like to open a discussion about it to get clarification.

If an arrest is not obviously valid, it follows standard escalation Non-antag players may lose any OOC and IC protections if they choose this path and should consider ahelping if they believe they did nothing to warrant being arrested.

In resisting arrest, non-antags should not loot officers and should not detain or incapacitate officers any longer than is necessary to escape or explain themselves....

LIKE A BOLT FROM THE BLUE, IT'S TIME FOR TRIALMIN REVIEW.

Pandarsenic has now been in the .txt as a Trial Admin for roughly two months.

Please use this thread as public review; it's encouraged for players to comment on how well/badly the trial admin has done and whether or not they think the trial admin should be made a full admin, if they should be removed from the .txt or if their promotion should be delayed.

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BYOND account: (mine is): WILL IT CRUNCH

Character name: Nle Glopnar

Ban type: ban-evading

Ban length: Permanent

Ban reason: Ban-Evading alt of Ktrkhop

Time ban was placed: 09-08-2022 03:17:43

Server you were playing on when banned: No idea, i only play terry.

Round ID in which ban was placed: round ID 188180

Your side of the story: Im not sure? Only thing i can thing of, if someone else on the barracks had decided to play SS13. As we all used the same wifi provider

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The following components that are listed below can only be made using map maker or admin tools but i would like to see these features available in game for the following reasons i will list below

1)Gas sensor
Path : obj/machinery/air_sensor Screenshot (7).png
Purpose : currently used inside tank chambers located in atmospherics for monitering gases inside them
Reason : Engineering protolathe after research can manufacture new HFR components to create more hypertorus reactors.
This reactor produces a...

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Byond Server : windows 514.1585 installer

Hosted a local private server and i'm the only person playing in it just to see whats up. Also been playing this game for just 2 months and this is my first time ever posting here

So I've been playing around with hypertorus reactor in atmospherics and rather than storing the gases produced from it in cannisters I decided instead to build dedicated chambers for storing them similar to the existing chambers for o2 , n2 and other...

BYOND account:Decker-5
Character name:Arne Magnusson
Ban type: Server
Ban length:7 Days
Ban reason: ''One of two non-antags set off napalm grenades on the emergency shuttle, flushing some people into space, killing others. Has a previous note for incendiary grenades on the shuttle.''
Time ban was placed:2022-08-06 20:58:00 UTC +3
Server you were playing on when banned: Terry
Round ID in which ban was placed: ID 188040,
Your side of the story: It was a pretty empty shift, I had 2 hellfoam grenades...