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And besides, you can't invoke Godwin's law when you're debating about a group that was literally allied with Hitler and even today are basically neo-Nazis. Call it low hanging fruit. Or were you unaware that the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem (now Palestine) was such a stern supporter in Hitler's desire ...

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Malkevin I hope that wasn't intentional.

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Xhuis wrote:

I think this thread has run it's course, and we're dangerously close to invoking Godwin's law.

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What is rule 1, anyway?

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Malkevin wrote:Ben Shapiro Video

Hey, I was giving you the benefit of the doubt, but posting a video that is essentially US-conservative funded propaganda with logical thought processes at a level equivalent to a preschooler? Yeah, I guess that's what you call a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Malkevin I'm actually going to make an effort to reply in good faith here, When did "You don't know about X, dats wrong" become the new "Dats racist!"? You're literally stuffing words in my mouth here. I said nothing about a lack of knowledge making you or anyone racist. Racism h...

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I'm not having a go at anyone in particular in this thread but what LiamLime is saying applies to a huge number of people who have strong opinions on these matters: They all seem to be subject matter experts yet don't even know a thing about Islam, or the relationship between "moderate muslims&...

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Oh man... the kitchen could be a randomly selected fast food chain at round-start. Futuristic evolutions of KFC, Maccers, Pizza Hut, etc. The chef could start the round wearing the appropriate uniform. Sure, it would cut down on the variety of crazy food (which you'd still be able to make), but you ...

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It's a "lesser of two" evils problem.

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LiamLime wrote:People seem to think that interaction with service jobs is the end-all-be-all of roleplay.

You make some valid points, but don't sully your argument by strawmanning those of other people. I do not believe that anyone in this thread is advocating what you're saying they are.

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Well we used to have limited resources across the station as a means of encouraging players to interact with each other, particularly for cargo. Now pretty much every resource-dependent job starts off with enough of its key resources (cryox, metal, glass, medkits, security equipment, yellow gloves, ...

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More antagonist items that masquerade as regular station items. The radiation health scanner, AI detector, sleepypen, etc. Not only does it promote light RP: Security Officer Suzie says: This isn't a regular health scanner, is it now, Dr Evil? But it also reduces the instances of protagonists seeing...

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also, what the fuck does ISIS have against paris? Read it yourself: In the Name of Allah, the Most Merciful, the Most Beneficent Allah (ta'ala) said, They thought that their fortresses would protect them from Allah but Allah came upon them from where they had not expected, and He cast terror into t...

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Shame it's still valid feedback.

Also goof you can you please my question from earlier.

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ITS ACTUALLY HAPPENING http://i.imgur.com/STljIql.png Putin was always ready to work with the US. It's always been US internal politics that have been in the way of the USA permitting changes in its alignments. Still, nobody is even making a squeak about the Saudis. No surprise there, nothing will ...

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Calm your fucking tits and stop jumping at the first chance to complain.

Jesus christ, people.

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http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/075/389/octagon.jpg This is not call of duty where everything is perfectly, symmetrically balanced. Harden the fuck up, and accept that people have the means to fuck you up. I for one am fucking tired of the constant nerfing of dangerous things. It r...

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Also if you can kill someone quickly and effectively, then it's a lot easier to escape before people turn up to save their asses, particularly if there's no AI about: Thus emphasising the value of killing people in the quieter corners of the station. I think there's some value to retaining the disti...

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Goof didn't code gang. It was purely designed and coded by absolutely based Ikkarus, who improved the mode from 'unplayable dreck' to 'best, most well-liked gamemode on the server' over a month. Tweaking a gamemode is totally different from rebalancing the entire fucking game. I'm not sure why you ...

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lel maintainers

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I think when we look at big changes recently, Gang stands out as a feature that was designed from the top down to have quality gameplay elements and to be a "Better TDM". Im optimistic for this change, as I know goof has good intentions as a coder. Question for Goof, I'd be keen to hear ab...

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It's a pretty weird sprite tbh. Literally a stopwatch?

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The problem isn't recalling the shuttle, the problem is shuttle calls in the first place. The whole game mechanic is fucked, has snowflake code cases for a huge array of game-modes (see: every team mode), and is used for two polar opposite cases: The station being fucked, and people wanting to re-ro...

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Ideas I think that anything that is inherently RNG-cause-of-death is a bad thing. So no, meteors should really remain as an event with a forewarning. But events are a great idea to work with. The warnings they provide can be in advance enough to force the hands of players in ways they don't like. S...

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More emphasis on the station itself, and how much the crew depend on its smooth operation to survive.

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I might be a bit out of the loop but I'm pretty sure nitroglycerine requires some pretty heavy chemistry work that is outside the realm of botanists and squarely in the "don't let anyone catch you making this" territory of chemistry.

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Potas/Water explosions are so shit compared to the nitroglycerin botanists can already get though. Mostly this would be for assistant's use at the public garden. Except its a lot easier to get bluespace beakers for a prox-triggered mega-grenade than it is to acquire the enormous amount of corn you ...

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Anonmare wrote:literally

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

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Im unded plz nerf

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Would an admin just post the ahelp logs already so the peanut gallery can stop.

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I have an away mission that was 90% complete. It's pretty benign, with a power-solve puzzle and a little bit of creepy backstory to be discovered.

Maybe I'll finish it.

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[slippery slope fallacy argument drawing on fear of degenerate behaviour from servers using such game mechanics]

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Remove all items and permanent indicators that scream valid at round-start (tomes, paper, constructs, constructions). Yep. Remove all unique elements. Make it gang with narsie. Except that gang does have unique elements, like uniforms, guns, gang uplinks and dominators. Nor was I suggesting that cu...

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Not much RP here, sorry. We used to have a better reputation as a community that supported a broader scope of behaviour, but it's taken a bit of a dive in recent years with an influx of play-to-win types.

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Nope. No verbs. You could probably have the embedded item alert itself do it though (like the buckled one unbuckles) But no verbs. Given that removing embedded objects currently requires clicking on a link on the screen, and that BYOND has issues dealing with links causing it to crash, a verb, or a...

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How can we make Cult more fun? Remove all items and permanent indicators that scream valid at round-start (tomes, paper, constructs, constructions). Make the cult defined entirely by the actions of its members through magical powers granted as a result of their increasing influence. Introduce benig...

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Nope. No verbs. You could probably have the embedded item alert itself do it though (like the buckled one unbuckles) But no verbs. Given that removing embedded objects currently requires clicking on a link on the screen, and that BYOND has issues dealing with links causing it to crash, a verb, or a...

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We need some sort of no-drop stun where the victim doesn't drop their stuff.

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What I'm saying is 'Is it necessary to have this feature in the game?' or 'Is this feature an overall net benefit in immersion, fun, and the enjoyment of the game?' Rarely is this question asked of a new feature. If coderbus maintained such standards, then yes, you'd have a point. It more seems to ...

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Gang conversions are clunky as shit and require a better mechanic.

Imagine if you gangsters had to go through some sort of silly hazing ritual to un-gang/de-loyal another player.

TABLING RITUAL ANYONE?

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We could make there be a plasma cutter in the armory at round start so proactive wardens can put loyalty pins in the guns instead of electric pins. Just let players freely change the firing pin in the weapon by pushing a new one in where the old one is. Naturally, there should be a shortage of loya...

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Cheimon wrote:But the thing is, the eggs dying with the queen doesn't make sense thematically. Eggs are a time bomb that exists to be dangerous even in the absence of aliens.

Sure. Perhaps it doesn't make sense. I'm only presenting ideas here, and I'm not afraid of being wrong.

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Don't change stun combat to be more skill-based. The last thing we need is to make this a game that attracts more play-to-win shootem-up plebeians. Removing cryo and medbots would be a start. The progressive removal of player interaction for regular activities has lead to this situation where the de...

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Transit tubes could use some love as they stand. It would be nice to see the player sprite inside the tube as it moves.

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IMO the armoury ought to take time to loot.

Why not put all the guns in little fire-axe style locking units that can be unlocked with sec-level access or with a multitool? (or "break in emergency!").

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I like map rotation, but I think some of the maps really do have poor design which makes them thoroughly unusable for a lot of roles, particularly those with minimal access (Clown and Mime)

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I really liked old cryo. The one that knocked you unconcious and had a 2 minute manual ejection. They were amazing for traitoring and actually gave doctors a reason to not just shove everyone into cryo all the time. I do see why people hated it though, getting forgotten in there and not even knowin...

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Have it require centcom authorisation TBH, just like the nuke. Then have it auto-spawn an ERT on the shuttle, to make escape-alone require decapitation of the command staff before they can mash red alert.

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... Fair point about it being too harsh. I just think Aliens could do with a bit of behavioural "encouragement" to protect the hive, in the form of punishing those who treat it as SOLO ANTAG POWER LEVEL 9001. But there have been recent changes and to be honest I haven't played it in a whi...

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We should bring back cloak&bow + thermals so you know what low-pop murderbone looks like.

Mind you, back then we had AIs every round.

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