/tg/Station 13

Not excusing the actions of the player, my gripe is that the admin could have handled it better by explaining why this happened in the ticket rather than going quiet. Some people just don't get it and need things spelt out clearly. he is trying to argue that it was an okay thing to do without actua...

02:42:07: Reply from-awkwardstereo: It's valid. I did not give the mutineers permission to do anything other than telling them if they mutiny in good faith they wouldn't hear from me. Right but you permitted it (and in fact insisted it was acceptable) in post without looking into it, and someone co...

This is an easy "you fucked up". All you have to do is look at the second line of the ticket. "Its valid" Now look at the post: the admin doesnt even know why he is being mutiny'd. If I ahelped that I was killed and the admin tells me he looked into it, insists it's IC, only to s...

Is there a particular reason theres an insistence on implying this was a collective activity and not one guy or what?

To be clear:

One man ahelped for permission (https://atlantaned.space/tgdb/ticket/180605/7) and was vagueposting, and gotten a conditional yes.

I’ve really wanted to invite my autistic friend but due to the prolific use of the word autism I’m really afraid of them being turned down from the game despite it being marketed as an “autistic atmos sim”. I also wanted to invite my stupid friend but in this current slur-filled cesspool that admins...

The autism surrounding not saying no no words is retarded and to schizo freak out over such an issue suggests you have some issues you (or whoever wants this beyond actually harassing a user) needs to work out otherwise you’re being mental

It used to be pretty commonplace and nothing is currently stopping it from going back on the rise.

Yes linking to stasis beds is fine outside of providing additional surgeries.

But it’s not an antag and so even if it could get away with things that wouldn’t have plausible deniability it can’t because it’s declawed.

The fact that people purge to begin with instead of just making a lawset to do what they want shows how defanged they actually are

I offered people to change the names (no one took my offer) Legit? Because I drafted an excel document with alternative names/suffixes years ago, but I recall a time where I voiced concern about the suffixes on the github and got my comment hidden by maintainers so I figured that questioning the ne...

I would like the original chem names back. Even if new chem was needed there was no reason to change the name of just about every chemical, especially ones that have generally the same purpose. Libital could have kept the name Bicardine. Oh yeah, I would love to have the old chemical names back. I ...

the reason why laws are cookie cutter is because they work and its intentional to be very specific in what you want the AI to do. Even now laws are quite cookie cutter, its not like purge is a blank cheque when we "cookie-cutted" the interactions a purged silicon could do since they are st...

1) Is security allowed to spend their round validhunting for antagonists and antagonist activity, despite there being no active threats on the station? 2) Is security allowed to execute captured antagonists who are at high risk for posing a future threat (e.g., .357 in bag, cult dagger, heretic foc...

It has always been a peeve of mine when people purge an AI with no intent to give them a new lawset because they know the rules put them in the position they have to play nice (textbook meta btw). Same with "Yeah do whatever" in a lawset where your orders need to be formulated carefully. P...

Nothing should be obnoxious as a method of balance. What the OP is suggesting, just taking the choice out of players' hands completely, is a far more empathetic way to go about it because it actually takes into consideration players' time and effort and what they want to do even if it's miserable. ...

I think, generally, the current system is fine where the body becomes progressively more obnoxious to treat the longer it stays away from medical up to a point (organ damage). I think it is also conflicting to say death is trivial but then a few lines down explain the work involved is extensive and ...

The only thing Ive longed for in tg in more recent times is that feeling (even if it wasnt necessarily true) that everyone was playing with some level of respect for the other people playing. This might be evident by the fact I wanted a LRP server with more murderboning restrictions (rule 3 / new ru...

what if we made space station 13 but took out the space

nothing concrete yet I just know I dont want everything to be provided under le epic stasis bed :smug:

1000 hour medic mains saying organ decay is a skill issue because they know how to prevent it and noobies can learn this fairly easily. Counterpoint: there is no downside to making it marginally easier for new doctors to heal patients by slowing organ decay, and/or making operating computers work w...

On the topic of newbie crutch: I don’t care to the extent that I have explicitly said I want MD not to be associated with a newbie job. This is really out of your control unless you intend on timelocking doctor, which sounds like a terrible idea. New people aren't really going to know that MD is a ...

sorry cant play hots rn at my parents

Djaubb wrote: ↑Wed Mar 02, 2022 9:18 pm meow

If you deemed the law contradicting itself you dont have to follow the parts that arent (they should have made the orders and the definitions into separate laws).

The answer is you cope or you hope an admin takes pity on you and changes it, I dont think its rulebreaking to add such a law if antag but I do think its rulebreaking to not follow it when it isnt convenient. Id also accept the law is null because it tells you that you're blind but you are also the ...

It's such a strawman you literally displayed the point of it. If you cant understand "I want to win" by nature goes against every other non-primarily winning playstyle (at least in SS13) I dont know what to tell you considering the obvious example completely blew past you. You had to devol...

Meow The issue is the people who want to just play TTT conflate not just going out and wiping the station (or wiping antags) in the cheesiest was possible EVERY ROUND with RP. They cannot be reasoned with in that regard. You can have chaos and you can, unlike Manuel, tell people to grow a pair when...

I think the real problem is if you die on Manuel you have no other option of playing the game that isn’t 1) a place where people have to abide by the additional rulesets you’re accustomed to others abiding by (particularly just killing you because they can) 2) a place where you are playing a turn ba...

What happens if they are obviously the bad guys so people try to stop them so they can play the game (no power is relatively debilitating on top of the obvious round rerolling effect) and they get killed? Why is that ok but not just straight up lowpop murderbone (outside of “because the rules say so...

We already have this nuance with “it’s” and “there is” when it comes to game types (mobile posting so can’t crop any policy screenies) so I don’t think “sus” (you will literally never say this in real life outside of imitating internet culture / amogus) versus “that’s sus” (shorthand for suspicious ...

I do not trust people to choose different characters so the current system is an absolute no, and even if the system was better I think it fundamentally changes how the game should be played when death becomes less meaningful (not even considering misuse of an instant respawn)

Sec Borgs were banned because of doodoo players which is why it’s a config issue and not a code one (else we would have removed them by now)

The competitive playstyle is the only one that displaces every other playstyle, more specifically the social deduction competitiveness. The guy looking to btfo all the baddies does not care the baddy is trying to run an interesting gimmick, so they put them out of the round. The guy trying to run th...

What’s the actual part that’s tripping them up? Not have any data sent to US sounds like a grand oversimplification and if true would displace a lot more than just Facebook. I don’t see why they couldn’t have EU regulation-acceptable data centers in the US, we do that with pharmaceuticals which is a...

I mean you can ahelp it but I’m not going to do anything because they’re an antag assuming LRP (GBJing fnr on Manuel seems unbefitting a la kill policy”

it applies to arrested players as the rule would imply (bar maybe rule 4). It's there to protect security from getting into a ahelp match literally everytime they make arrests, with that in mind the rule tells them that protection is gone >10 minutes so they should expect ahelps (not necessarily bec...

The autorifles were replaced because the point of the PR was to start transitioning crew weaponry to be energy dominated (the PR goes into detail as to why)

Didn’t have anything to do with lack of use.

https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/pull/64280 Holy shit why does it keep happening, this is another major sec nerf over the course of 2 years. I don't think I've seen a substantial sec buff in the entire time I've been lurking on the GitHub. Not only that, but its a maintainer who wrote the dam...

seems pretty straightforward the note needs amending or needs to be removed, it is factually incorrect that a brig sentence >10 without any context is against the rules.

If there was context that would make it against the rules then it should obviously be reflected in the note.

gateways are config blocked, we (I) dont really support the maps because the situational efficacy is based on what map you roll and not the maps themselves. If you see hotel snoozefest you are going to nope tf out versus seeing your favorite loot zone (I would say wild west but that one doesnt give ...

im going to ban emag actions we need a better mechanic that isnt exclusive to ONE antagonist.

you can unsync borgs you just have to have a valid reason per rule 4 as the more practical use is to preemptively btfo an AI thats malf or subverted. I could somewhat understand that logic also being somewhat applied to an AI but it seems kinda lame if you could only build an additional AI if the ot...

full circle this used to be the case Was this back in the days of old like I saw in the start of the candidate tracking thread where trainers were recruiting admins on a whim and nobody was keeping any of the staffing logs updated? Also hashtag public policy discussion instead of internal administr...

the state of projectile damage and balance is completely fucked, we probably need some kind of major overhaul but it will cause so much toxicity that im not really sure I feel up to it. Trying to condense weaponry to be aligned armor wise I think is still a good move to go about this (unless someon...

full circle this used to be the case

the rules "bloat" is due to an ever growing population covering more and more people. In the olden days it was mainly /tg/ tards and other 4channers so in some way they loosely shared some common ground in which some rules could be less written and you had to adapt. When you have a lot of ...

we cant enforce it either way if people dont report it (i mean we could but the rate at which that gets addressed is goign to be slower obv).

even if the metric is changed, what would that look like? you have to do X by Y time? Its a bit hard to enforce anymore than the current ruling imo.

Notes are such a good punishment because then you can’t play the gam- oh wait well at least you can’t play the role you were doing wron- oh wait. If you get pulled over for speeding and don’t get a ticket do you think that’s a punishment? If you do it again and they see the previous warning for spee...

episode 540 of why catgirls were a mistake btw

disarming you for a bit would also make you "unable to do your job". If he just moved it nearby that's more involvement than you just having to sit on the ground waiting for him to be done disarming you. The point of contention is if the uwu speak should be considered annoying in general. ...

not even on page 2 without devolving to sinful appeal. Also idk how you do something that is generally accepted as annoying even outside of ss13 and then get surprised you're harassed over it. The only "issue" i sorta take here is that viewing notes should be an after the fact instead of p...

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