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The purpose of kill/ "murderbone" policy is foregoing your mechanics to just pick people off, its not like "you cant kill more than 5 people unless your chart says Yes". Changelings have reason to off people on their own on top of the other aspects we allow killing for (self defe...

Can I save myself the time and assume the thread is about complaining about the note system instead of a very liberal use of said system by an admin?

They should be unbanned for championing minority issues like” being able to breathe unlike George Floyd”.

We can’t ban an ally!

they dont even work off a law system what kind of mental gymnastics is "well you should have given them laws ergo I can cause mischief as this roundstart role because they dont use laws thanks stupid coders". They have non-antag status because they do not have antag status. No objective, n...

the purge rule is also stupid tho so the point is p moot :^) You should generally respect the law but only because being a POS just means you deny people from wanting to utilize you and other AIs in future rounds. that is different from mistypes or worded in such a way that you are performing mental...

its fine, if you want to offset it by giving it an upgrade to the suit or something then ok. Conceptually, armor should be very visible because it is a big component in combat. If you have a lot of armor in your chest I should be able to see that on your sprite. something just giving u free armor th...

I have yet to see a sentient MULEbot do anything upon entering the shift but run up to the nearest person and beg to be hacked. I ahelped after a hacked MULEbot killed me (it wasn't discerned if it'd been manually hacked or emagged) and not even the admin really seemed to know how to rule things si...

There’s a murderbone rule but you can legally kill someone and rr if they’re you’re objective. I think at some point if you’re playing lowpop and it’s not extended you accept the risk associated with that, including your round being ruined. If theyre not doing it maliciously then sorry but that’s ju...

We aren’t an 18+ community we don’t actually vet in any way for minors and we know of people that have played while underaged. Headmins included ofc. I mean we say we are and we ban people who can’t read but we’ve explicitly let ppl play underaged in the past and we all know people who play(ed) whil...

1 is actually good advice if you don’t know how to break up a fight and instead just aid one side w/o knowing the story. Turning antag prefs off is also a good idea but that’s because the game gives it to you constantly if you just want to try out something for code. Rollers would be jealous of my a...

It’s allowed so you can very easily out ppl who aren’t putting effort into showing they have improved

it also implies he's just here to make other spacemen horizontal, so he's kind of lucky he gets to play at all well he isnt playing at all so instead of nabbing a perma and then say coming back with a lower antag ban after time has passed (if that) and he can say he came back with a new mindset, he...

it would have made sense if he had more hours (maybe theres an unspoken alt or something), but having to play the game for over the amount of hours you have currently in the game is very rough and implies all of those 77 hours were antag rolling.

these people are sane they are normal

pixel movement is v soulless

I agree but on the flip side how else are you suppose to lure security into (doing their job) if they only ever come when they have license to kill? Mind you I don’t agree with the method especially when the person doing this caused the issue, but I do think there’s a fair conversation to be had. It...

Escalation moment where everyone stinks because the guy starting it had good setup to cause mischief. The rev callout but he keeps him alive indefinitely is VERY strange. It’s unfortunate there’s no real IC mediator like security for these instances this could have been fixed fairly swiftly, maybe t...

its a research station every department should have its own research aspect vs. one specific department that does research everyone else is suppose to "leech" off of. My ideal spot would be all departments have their own research they do independently, managed by the head of said departmen...

I'm not sure why I'm included here; I do think deleting some notes after a certain period is a good thing but more serious matters (rule 8 or 11 violations, namely) should not be deleted. it was a goober post anyways dw @sinful i think we are just going to have to agree2disagree here, i obviously d...

the core gameplay loop involves crafting the virus in excel then relaying it into the game, which is relatively easy to do unless lady luck is genuinely upset with you (she can be offset p easily with map-provided chems). viro is genuinely bad lol i really want someone to suggest an epic rework or r...

me, vekter, and timber have been discussing about this: that hard deletion is not the answer, and we have listed a-many solutions. very dramatic to say that this is the only thing being harped in this thread. please don’t derail it :) what... you took one quippy part of a post to argue a line that ...

-- Can you give an example of a situation where a minor note, in which a ban wasn’t deserved, would be necessary 6+ months down the road? 8 months? 12? -- First of all this isn’t the main issue IMO with keeping notes around forever. The main issue to me is after enough notes, players just become “d...

until it becomes a technical issue to retain notes, i dislike the idea they should be fully removed. Its becomes a slippery slope of what is considered minor and you dont know if down the line a "minor" note becomes relevant. Admins misusing these notes is not suggestive the retention aspe...

We should stop putting infinite bandaids on a foundational problem. We don't need a consitution to play a video game and we've been doing it wrong for literally half a decade. I generally agree with this but if "you" the admin are going to still enforce aspects of silly policy because it ...

They should, and killing in pursuit of your objectives is not against the rules

upending silly policy without understanding the why behind why its so massive to begin with is going to be a futile effort. It wasn't made in a vacuum. The entire role is about being an obnoxious pos when it comes to the rules and laws theyre provided, ofc its going to be a huge rulelist. That's not...

I think its more of a semantics issue where people see pirates cant murderbone and go "well they just cant kill anyone" vs. "they cant just pick people off for no reason not doing their objectives".

someone really ought to just change it to "kill policy" or something.

kinda cute

either way works, but "i want to flood distro" is where I personally start rolling my eyes.

Flamethrower would be fine since its localized.

Wonton flooding doesn’t make sense, again the objective of “gloves off” is so you can hasten the victory condition at the cost of suspicious individuals who may not be antags, it isn’t to give you green light to shoehorn yourself into the antagonist role yourself by killing literally everyone else. ...

wubli wrote: ↑Mon May 29, 2023 10:53 pm me in 2018 walking into the hop's office (i want all access and i have the serial killer gene)
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Dark Betty >>>>>> quirky musical episode

oh riverdale s1 is pretty solid, it's a nice murder mystery about teenagers. it's just that everything after that is really bad (serial killer gene subplot, incest subplot, organ harvesting cult subplot, you can argue there's necro stuff) I really like how after S1 they were basically kids larping ...

I love that stephenie meyer (mormon) made a 108 year old virgin (lol) in love with a 17 year old and we ate that up like it was the sexiest thing ever. they fuck Once and she's pregnant already. btw you should watch the vampire diaries i'm on the first season and i'm having a blast it's genuinely o...

Your attention madame

whats the actually contentious part, where the line in the sand is or the idea you can rambo to begin with? Its a conversion antag who can convert much easier than you can prevent, once revs starts acting out in the open youre free to harass people. youd have to sell me on killing a guy who isnt bot...

episode 500 million on politics containment being a blight.

I think pins are fine but large visual cosmetics that are addons (hats when you dont start w one, scarves, etc.) sorta detract from the "corporate nobody" esque world. When you have to go out of your way to obtain these things then it acts as a deterrent and largely keeps people in their s...

heretics are disruptive enough, giving people "free" antag seems really hectic and unenjoyable.

We need to remind ourselves that with dynamic, disruptive antags negatively impact the other antags, and all these antag combinations have to be contested by the crew.

"I'm Timberpoes I know what's right and who's right and I don't have to explain myself" You're wrong FYI lots of people like me. You admins are the ones who can't handle aggressiveness from people with less power than you. Whereas I'm happy to take you all on and hey even if I get heckled...

Pirates not being able to murderbone is a bit of a bait because by nature they are very confrontational and are rewarded for alive individuals. If you kill a few to be able to capture a ton I think that would not be murderbone, as youre playing towards your objective with bystanders. Now just flat o...

I agree rule 2 could clarify but im also unsure how its not a rule 1 issue to demand someone to do something speculative or you will GBJ them for an indefinite time because you are unsure they are antags. Rule 4 applies to known antags, not ones you think are antags but dont have proof for yet. Same...

I dont think its bigoted to say you disagree with the idea the term "trans rights" is (1:1 synonymous with) "human rights", assuming thats what he was being contentious with and theres nothing damning outside of the context posted. If they were you wouldnt exactly need to make th...

Knowingly and maliciously breaking the rules because you made up the rule that you're allowed to use whatever dangerous object you find just screams bad faith. this actually used to be policy eons ago lol. If you got boss content you were allowed to use it. Its still baffling how no one has changed...

weird video posters should just be permabanned on the spot anyone watching that kind of stuff he has posted needs help.

And if they wear gloves that they never take off? I dont think its unrealistic to get to a point where someone is refusing to cooperating and passively obstructing by hiding their DNA even if not on purpose, there are plenty of reasons to wear gloves and other clothing ingame and theres also very li...

i think you hit the nail on the problem but im not sure i like the proposed solution. Pharmacy has everything handed to them roundstart, and the only limiting factor is the presence of the chem machines (dispenser being the worst offender) and the willingness to put up with making the chems (especia...

what do you do when they say no, arrest them? A lot of the allure of playing detective gets lost in ss13 because you want to pull clues but there are no motives for killing people besides the game (or the bbeg company) said so. What you want is to play something like shadows of doubt when all you ca...

You didn't give Rageguy a name of any one of the willing converts and you didn't even tell them this was happening openly at bar. That was just a very unhelpful ahelp. Oh the other hand, I really don't like "willing converts" self-antaging in the name of RP. This whole thing should have b...

GBJing someone is not fun for anyone i dont blame someone for not wanting to RP there even if the other person is an antagonist. Im guessing this is a case of "while this case is OKAYYYYYY I am going to note the behavior because ive seen it happen previously and no one has warned/noted them for...

one of the bigger failings of the note system as it currently stands is the fading out does not respect severity in any way. a 6 month fadeout makes perfect sense for BIG BAD notes, but for things like one sussy situation and especially lower tiered mishaps like IC in OOC, I VERY RARELY care about t...

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