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just got off a round with someone who played security. they walked into science and shot a golem in one of the labs FNR and shot me when I tried to free the golem as a security officer. said that if you aren't killing anyone you're allowed to kill you're playing security wrong. literally said i sho...

Good map. Good shit. 24/7 Delta Station when

I lowered the growth values to cap out at 3.5 rather than 5 A reasonable change instead of sweeping nerfs/buffs or removing it outright? I thought I was on /tg/ station. But seriously that makes it a lot more tolerable, thanks. Hey don't give me that shit, I suggested limiting its growth value as w...

Several people asked to join the cult Isn't this heavily frowned upon? Non-antags explicitly searching to be antagged without good reason? I'm no rules lawyer so I'm not sure, but just something I'd thought I'd heard before. Also, I don't get what point you're trying to prove in this spiel, other t...

Make reasonless greytide bannable and then make FNR brigging bannable. Also do what I said before and seperate the brig/brigging from the sec officer's duties and make the warden more process driven. Or just accept that a role that is defacto meant to rain on people's parades is never going to be we...

It's not really an incentive, it's a way to boost cargo points in exchange for a dangerous shuttle that will jeopardise escape for the whole crew. I understand that people buy it for the meme and a shot at griefing someone as a non-antag only role, but the idea behind it is solid. Giving them posit...

I have some feelings on negative cost for shuttles. I can't cite my source but a while back Kor said the intention of negative cost was to give an incentive to buy these shuttles. Realistically, people buy the "dangerous" (STV-5, Asteroid, BYO (Yes the BYO goes in this category until I see...

Give spears a HP pool that goes down as they're thrown so that you have to keep rebuilding your broken piece of shit spear

(except if you're an ashligger because lavaland mobs have tuff bones and sinews)

Digdugxx wrote:This is the second feature discussion I've caused :]

Would you care to voice your opinion on the feature/the suggested improvements? You do have first dibs on changes to the feature, as its yours.

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They're also sprited to fit those sizes, as opposed to stretching an existing tile.

e: Also NPC mobs and not players, barring the use of items from their defeat

AKA: The stuff that makes people 18 tiles tall I'm really not a fan. Beyond the fact that it serves no real game purpose other then making people's hitbox larger, it breaks the aesthetic of the game to have icons stretched to 10 times their usual size, and causes issues. Among other things, there a...

If you're a professional looking to make money (down the road) why come to a group based around open source volunteers for help and fucking say "No I won't pay you heh." Like come the fuck on dude get real. Asking for free hand outs only to assert you're in it for the money is blatant hyp...

Realistically I think this is going to fall under "the sins of the father" where the xenobiologist who made a (if its a station golem) uranium golem gets bwoinked for creating a inherently harmful golem as a non-antag. Also, aren't sentient "monsters" from xenobio always fine to ...

From a game design point of view, the point of lavaland is that its meant to be high risk, high reward. While you're correct that most other things aren't the lapse of a single mistake, having chasms serves a key point of keeping people engaged. In terms of general advice for exploring lavaland with...

https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/pull/21990

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Wyzack wrote:tfw iamgoofball will never reply to this thread again after demanding i suck his dick and then refusing the acknowledge the fact that the shuttle had very little to do with the ban

Don't know why i expected anything better. Just another iamgoofball (tm) shitfit meltdown

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Bear in mind, to get any of those powers you need to hurl a sentient mob into Meatgrinder, forcing two people to go through this, and only one of them gets the reward. There are no ways past Meatgrinder without a sacrifice. Put it back in space so people who really, really want to get it have the c...

It is purely incidental though. A million billion other things could have happened to start a conflict that would lead to the exact same series of escalation, and we do not go around removing the start of the argument every time someone gets banned for it Wyzack I'm afraid you're wrong and insulate...

Well even with this new structural damage I experienced trying to break out of a perma cell and it was not fun. Was cuffed to the bed. Got off and uncuffed. Used the cuffs to break the light bulb. Used the light bulb to break the table. Took the metal rods and started beating down the door. Never d...

What wishes does it even grant? I took a look at the Ghost Teleport menu and theres something like 40+ Faithless in there plus other stuff. Unless it's been changed at some point since it's inception, it's all dumb stuff like giving you hulk or a bag of gold or whatever, with the "ironic twist...

Rework restart votes so people who don't vote don't count, and having an admin online doesn't autofail it (but they can override if they want to). This will just lead to outrage as people miss the relatively tight vote window and get the round restarted out from under them. Doubly so if its an acti...

The Captain also authorized a demotion BY THE RD and demotions in this game are either equal to or a step just barely before death. Don't even pretend this isn't true. Most demotions end with you naked in the halls without even an ID. Most of the time when I've tried to action a demotion I've eithe...

Side note from the topic at hand: REMOVE WISHGRANTER RUIN. In all my time as a miner, I have not seen a single miner attempt to clear the ruins and claim their wish. The complex is also FUCKING HUGE and displaces a lot of potential useful loot and minerals miners would actually want to see. I've be...

take content away What did he mean by this? I believe he was referring to the fact that only so many megas spawn per round, so if golems kill all the megas then the miners won't have megas to fight Not that it matters because rounds are too short at the moment for most people to gear up to fight me...

Alipheese wrote:If you're overweight, you can go to the toliet and take a shit. Like duke nuke em you can pick It up and use it as a brown crayon thats much harder to clean and a way of giving people toxin damage if hit in the face or fed.

Taking the thread title a little literally there.

The extended notification has been in for about a week now, and (in my own hyperbolic experience) has lead to a degradation of gameplay. From people going all out insane when admins aren't there, to people behaving in ways that would almost certainly get them bwoinked in serious rounds and rushing t...

Put a 5 minute lock on law upload consoles to stop command and various antags from buttrushing the upload.

NT RIPLEY sales pitch I'll have to give them another buzz in the near future. Will send you/post here some feedback when I get a chance. Out of interest, is there a solution for the RIPLEY and grabbing lavaland chests from defeated tendrils? IIRC, Mechs can't pull anything, and the hydraulic clamp ...

NT RIPLEY sales pitch I'll have to give them another buzz in the near future. Will send you/post here some feedback when I get a chance. Out of interest, is there a solution for the RIPLEY and grabbing lavaland chests from defeated tendrils? IIRC, Mechs can't pull anything, and the hydraulic clamp ...

FantasticFwoosh wrote: has no BS powercreep tools (off the bat as the blank state)

Hmm, I smell some tacit agenda in trying to nerf "muh mining powercreep" here. Also:

kevinz000 wrote:
Alipheese wrote:
oranges wrote:lavaland is here to stay

I think the key to such a "barrier" like the ones suggested before is to amplify their role as peacekeeping rather then combat robustness. The easy way to do this is to have it block people but not projectiles, possibly including things like spears, but possibly only including "bullet...

If Secborgs must stay gone forever, can we atleast make pkborgs good at their stated intention: Peacekeeping At the moment its just an unfun module that is either safely ignored or flashed and then safely ignored. Yes, I know people like to say "its a bad player trap", which is a shitty ex...

Slimes are for petting with potions of sentience, not for glomping.

There are PLENTY of ways to play mining! You can mine on foot, in a mech , or as a borg! All three are strong and viable methods! You, as a Science player, have lots of options to get minerals if the three roundstart miners die. It is also your job to make sure those miners have good gear! Do not f...

As an alternative take on this, how about giving people the means to combat released singulos/teslas? I know about the whole bag of holding in a small singulo but that only works up until a certain size and generally singulo will grow beyond that stage in the time it takes R&D to find out about ...

IMO this is as bad as it being all security, especially when its so early into the round and I seriously doubt every position is filled.

Best extended round I had was as a solo miner during the LATE night shift. Ended up killing three megas by myself, made peace with the pair of Ashwalkers staying in the lavaland, pimped out their hut and geared them up. >allying with necropolis worshippers https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/download/fil...

How many of that goes into the ORM instead of just thrown away like a wet paper towel while the miners dig up an arena to fight the megafauna. I've literally never seen anyone "throw away" ore other then the very very common metal because its worth shit for points and you get it incidenta...

taking away officer brigging rights is a terribly stupid idea. Security has always had problems from the HoS/warden positions being occasionally filled with anti-sec assclowns who only choose the role to interfere in arrests and cut people loose for thin reasoning. and you want to make a whole job ...

Why don't we just remove lavaland and make kor buy his own surver to run Lavaland Station that's nothing but lava, land, and dying to computer enemies. Bring asteroid back 2017 Yes please, mining is about digging rocks, not fucking off to some fuckoff planet to dress yourself in shiny drake armour ...

Ignoring the pseudo-ban request nature of the thread and the :salt: about virtual violins, I do think sec (as someone who frequently is the Warden/HoS) has an issue, namely with organization. A well run sec relies on the records being up to date and prisoners being released in a timely manner. The i...

Making science not rely on mining removes one of the few departmental symbiotic relationships in the game and makes mining either just hunting or totally pointless. If miners are overfocusing hunting over mining, perhaps look at the reward loop: Why do they prefer loot off mobs over loot from the ve...

Some people SERIOUSLY forgot what this game is about 10. Losing is part of the game. Your character will frequently die, sometimes without even a possibility of avoiding it. Events will often be out of your control. No matter how good or prepared you are, sometimes you just lose. Someone also serio...

Yeah, I've just experience one of these rounds and its straight up dumb. Its basically free for all and "CALL SHUTTLE" 5 minutes in.

Honestly, just lower extended's percentage chance of popping up if you're that butt bothered by there not being antags, the way it currently is just bad.

Okand37 wrote:No.

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