/tg/Station 13

cedarbridge

Your description of what doctors should do was walk around the station, it is something that happens because there isn't actually something to do. And your description matches 100% with what sec does if we're going to pretend that that's all there is to each of these jobs. It is an actual weakness ...

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CPTANT wrote:Your description of what doctors should do was walk around the station, it is something that happens because there isn't actually something to do.

And your description matches 100% with what sec does if we're going to pretend that that's all there is to each of these jobs.

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SaveVatznick wrote:Ghostface is a worse Plague. Plague can stack one-hit downs on multiple people at once and doesn't need to hobble herself to do it, AND her power can't be cancelled by someone seeing the corner of her shoulder for half a second.

Instead its cancelled by players just knowing not to heal

cedarbridge

I notice you left security off the list. There's a reason for that. Yes because securities round dynamic is incomparable to the functioning of the rest of the station. Not really. Security without people to arrest or crimes to investigate are on patrol mode in the same way that competent MDs are on...

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I notice you left security off the list. There's a reason for that. Yes because securities round dynamic is incomparable to the functioning of the rest of the station. Not really. Security without people to arrest or crimes to investigate are on patrol mode in the same way that competent MDs are on...

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I notice you left security off the list. There's a reason for that.

cedarbridge

One would think that the American healthcare system would inevitably teach people to take great care of their own health since they risk going bankrupt if they don't (because money is more important than health in the western world), and yet here we are. Some people burn out their health in the pur...

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This is only gonna be a problem in a small amount of rounds but enough for me to bring it up; if budget cards were nuked there'd need to be a way to make large amounts of money quickly at least at roundstart, because War Ops is a thing. Alternatively restructure the tech web to make ballistic weapo...

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Super Aggro Crag wrote:they literally show up for work one hour a day 45 minutes late than the time they told you they'd be there to tell you "uhhh i dunno bro you try taking an aspirin? that'll be 5600 dollars"

I paid 40 for my last visit and I got in without an appointment and a 15 minute wait. You got hosed.

cedarbridge

Damn those doctors and their expecting to be paid for things.

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Shadowflame909 wrote:small majority

Quality post

cedarbridge

Insurance costs on their own balloon medical costs in America. There's a reason that most doctor's offices will take sometimes as low as 40% of you pay in cash.

cedarbridge

Conceptually we could: Nuke department budgets - They're already huge piles of basically free money that either get gifted to the QM or rides around in the head's wallet (RDs end up with huge piles of creds that they don't really use after the first meaningful test bomb goes off.) This means that ca...

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I've played since 2017 and I've never seen this enforced, so I wouldn't worry about it being relevant today Also drones are disabled (rip) because of admin lazyness and logging limitations, so, again, irrelevant It was enforced. Drones don't exist because players simply couldn't be trusted with nic...

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tfw no medbay catgirl gf

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Science has diverse roles that allow scientists to do things. Which is exactly why medbay also needs diverse roles that allows doctors to do things, like a combination of producing and applying medication. Scientists have power over their entire process from RnD to fabrication and distribution (giv...

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After dicking around with stasis beds a bit, I'm not sure I like them for reasons entirely unrelated to sleepers. We've positioned medical to be very reliant on chemistry to treatments, but then we added these beds that only really work in conjunction with instant-heal tools like bruise packs and on...

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I doesn't actually matter anyway, the situation is that scientists have a broad job with plenty of different activities, they can do RnD, toxins, xeno and used to have telescience. Doctors can......wait in medbay until they perform surgery? Alternatively, instead of looking at chemistry and saying ...

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Yes there's 2 different arguments going on People directly responding to Morto who said murderboning itself is a problem Karp and Cedarbridge responding to people by saying "no, murderbone with delaying is bad tho", which isn't the topic A distinction without a difference: one is a produc...

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I also think the act of doing surgery needs to be more interesting. Having a wiki open on another tab isn't really a skill nor is it fun. Maybe have be sometime more dynamic where the steps aren't exactly the same each time. You could also apply different difficulties to more advanced surgeries, so...

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It's not actually about rule 4. I'm a big supporter of rule 4 and hate seeing it infringed on, but I see this as something that gives one player enjoyment at the cost of the whole server. Lowpop murderboning isn't a crime, needlessly extending the round while everyone's dead is. It's not a big issu...

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confused rock wrote:hurr durr lifeweb has injuries and it's great

but it's also frustrating

Being injured is supposed to be something you try to avoid. That's the point.

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I don't actually recall if we already have brute/burn healing surgery. If not, when designing the new surgeries, they should be short, perhaps no more than three or four steps per limb (though the exact steps for brute healing need not match those for burn healing). Its called "reconstruction....

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It's not actually about rule 4. I'm a big supporter of rule 4 and hate seeing it infringed on, but I see this as something that gives one player enjoyment at the cost of the whole server. Lowpop murderboning isn't a crime, needlessly extending the round while everyone's dead is. It's not a big issu...

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Shadowflame909 wrote:I'm forever worried about this new mechanic being abused and leaving me with busted kneecaps.

Shouldn't have tried breaking into med storage.

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Organ damage was discussed in the "what if we removed cloning" thread oranges made as well. Internal damage of different types requiring the appropriate surgery would be nice. It would allow superficial damage from greyshirts slugging it out without having to worry about severe injuries an...

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Shadowflame909 wrote:They do on Lowpop.

Honk Honk

And MDs have access to chem on lowpop.

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100% the reason why doctors should be merged with chemists. No matter how many times this gets repeated its never going to be true. Yes because years later doctors are totally still not a shit job :roll: There is no good reason why the inconsistency between science and medbay regarding job merging ...

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One major potential problem is how this will interact with murderboners. I believe it's likely to reduce the effect of murderboning, since if each victim deals an injury to the murderboner they'll have to wait for the slower self-treatment methods to work rather than simply using a couple of brute ...

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CPTANT wrote:100% the reason why doctors should be merged with chemists.

No matter how many times this gets repeated its never going to be true.

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IkeTG wrote:OP doesn't understand the one fundamental rule of online sandbox games

eventually everything becomes a form of cops and robbers and there's literally nothing you can do to stop it

It's simple. We ban the assistant mains.

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No GOD no. This shit alredy implemented on other servers its TERRIBLE. You just die or medics heal you half an hour in medbay. So its easy to just kill you and clone. Play and hunt traitors not lay dead in medbay morgue. You wasting players time that they can use to validhunt/greytide on stupid lay...

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Abductor tools are valuable to science since it unlocks several very useful techs. What's the starting science budget look like? I'm lothe to toss something into the pot that rare/valuable that can just get snatched at roundstart on the cheap. I never consider trading for actual money a good idea, ...

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Rule 4 strikes again. does this mean "they're antags, so rule 4 is enough policy to cover this situation" or "rule 4 doesn't cover enough situations to be a meaningful rule and should be done away with" Honestly, I was shitposting. My feelings on Rule 4 are already pretty genera...

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from the PR: A team of fugitives with a toolbox will spawn in the maintenance with 10 minutes to prepare. After that time, a security team will be selected to land at the station and bring the fugitives back, dead or alive. They are not antagonists in that they can kill anything, but they are allow...

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I can't believe you guys actually removed sleepers. What's next? Is cloning going the way of the dodo? I hope so. I won't lie you guys, this is definitely me when my server has an average of 10 minutes per round Which server is that? Unless something magical has changed, server round time averages ...

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I find it highly unlikely on bagil or high pop Sybil. Well it's not. As a normal doctor, I have walked to cargo, asked them to come to the desk on the radio, then asked the tech that shows up to order medical supplies. The only unlikely part is them delivering it to medical, but it's not hard to ju...

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And now with sleepers removed they have something else to buy, and a good reason to do so. Why do you have a problem with this? They wont. they don't. Just because medbay needs medicine doesn't mean Cargo Is going to suddenly give a fuck about them. Nothing works like this. People don't work like t...

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Out of curiosity, and I have suspicions, when is the last time you actually used the /me command to "do" something. Obviously mimes do it periodically (when they're not just getting around their vow with their PDA) but I can only think of one or two people who have actually used it for its...

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Steelpoint wrote:I can't believe you guys actually removed sleepers. What's next? Is cloning going the way of the dodo?

I hope so.

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Atlanta-Ned wrote:
cedarbridge wrote:
Also, what text prompts do each of these roles get?
It would be helpful if we had a way to see flavortexts in one place.

Theoretically I could but that would mean diving through code while I'm supposed to be working.

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3. The New Crate Ordering System: The old cargo order system would be replaced by a "custom order" system. Each item one might be able to order is sorted by category. One tab might offer food items, Another tab might offer weapons et cetera. When making an order, one would add items to th...

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What happened to your shift key?

Also, what text prompts do each of these roles get?

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Nobody breaks into xenobio after you lock them into a slime pen.

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If you're in need of money, consider just going to your current head of staff and asking for some. 99% of the time heads aren't doing anything with their budget aside from throwing it at cargo and if the player isn't shit, they'll probably willingly give you some cash to work with. I have a tendenc...

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I'm good at forum posts and trimmed off your "you're not going to get empty servers unless" line where you seem to be having trouble understanding that the instance we're discussing /does/ empty servers and would still do so even if there were an ERT potentially sent. Either you're too new...

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But now I'm thinking, is really a bug/glitch and using it is bannable or is a safe to use feature? How is your constructing this contraption negatively influencing the round? If the answer is "Its not" then there's no rules violation here worth discussing. If the answer is some articulabl...

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You'd be fucking amazed the shit I've seen over hundreds of hours where people go an entire half hour completely unaware there's even an antagonist. It's no wonder murderbones are even possible when a large portion of the playerbase simply has no sense of what's going on outside a 9 tile radius. If...

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Antag status is not and should not ever be treated as sacred.

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