/tg/Station 13

knacker48 wrote:

NoxVS wrote: I was a chaplain

NoxVS wrote: After I help cremate the chaplain

This is probably just a spelling error but I'll ask anyways. Did you mean to say 'after i help cremate the changeling'?

Thanks for pointing it out, fixed.

Byond account and character name: NoxVS / James Knox Banning admin: NecromancerAnne Ban type (What are you banned from?): Note Appeal Ban reason and length: Note Appeal Time ban was placed (including time zone): 2019-07-05 05:36:08, Round 112383 Server you were playing when banned (Sybil or Bagil): ...

One problem I can see with this is the point of multi use tools is to reduce clutter and make it easier to switch between tools. Giving engineering cyborgs more tools would just further expand their massive inventory of items

oranges wrote:Seems like Plasmaman forgot to enable their internals

While the icon incorrectly shows that internals are turned off, a plasmaman's internals are always on when arriving. It would have to be manually turned off

Zombies are fine mechanically. We just need to make it so you actually have to act like a zombie though. I often see zombies being friendly which completely ruins the whole point of zombie infestations.

It should also be noted stun duration is much lower for zombies. A stun can only stop them long enough to get away, you are unable to kill them in the stun duration. I’m pretty sure by the time you even switch hands they are about to get back up

Sounds like u should make a GitHub issue cause that don't sound rite Its not really a bug in the game and more bad design. If you grab someone by their neck it is difficult to resist out of and doesn't require you to have an open hand once you successfully do it, meaning you can have a fire axe in ...

While everyone has a counter to it at round start not everyone magically knows what they were just injected with. It’s impossible to tell toxic damage from oxy loss without an analyzer

Hey, better idea, remove hygiene. We voted on it. No one likes it. Remove it already.

Each armory starts with rwalls, motion-sensitive cameras inside and outside, as well as Armsky on most maps. Then you have a dedicated job for protecting it that starts with a compact shotgun, krav maga gloves, as well as the whole armory itself. Honestly if more wardens stayed inside and protected...

I don’t get why wardens can’t just wait for the entire armory to be stolen before they reinforce it

Alternatively it feels like the brig is intentionally poorly defended just to give carebear - I mean traitors an easy chance to raid it. The armory is so unsecure and one guy can easily just steal it all. It’s not that sec doesn’t want conflict, it’s that the enemy already has enough firepower to du...

I can’t really think of a better system than what we have here. While there are some moments that I think democracy would be better, there are also moments where something is changed for the better despite all people wanting otherwise separated chemicals

While I didn’t ahelp it at the time because there wasn’t a whole lot of proof and it seemed inconsequential at the time, I was playing in this round and believe this whole conflict was metagrudging. While he never acted on it towards me, Ars was immediately hostile to both me and Jameson as soon as ...

How the fuck did you find this the last post was 4 years ago

So overall it seems like the problem isn't low pop murderboning but delaying the round by spam recalling and ensuring the shuttle isn't called, a completely different issue.

Cap damage that can be healed by basic chemicals, remove cloning, make the resurrection surgery standard. Boom, relevant medical. That or add trauma based damage, that require being fixed by surgery. Have Rezadone be able to heal physical traumas as it is capped behind botany or emags. Pretty much ...

But a neutered medbay cannot handle Nukies, Wizhole, and traitorlings on highpop. Good. Medbay never should have been able to handle multiple high threat antagonists at once. Medbay (without sleepers) can easily handle each of those individually, and it's not like those would ever all spawn at once...

Define lowpop and define murderboning for me before we go any further. Precise definitions with exact numbers and a clear line drawn where it shifts to and from lowpop and to and from murderboning. If you can't do this then how can you expect players to? This is stupid and should be upheld with code...

Chaplains don't have access to the doors above the mass driver despite having access to the maintenance on both sides of them.

Also at EVA, the door into maint uses lowercase letters (e.v.a. maintenance)

That's what people mean by burnout though. If you're not enjoying chemistry for making interesting chems or janitor for pointing at signs as people slip or whatever you would do in other jobs and can only feel the rush if you are: a) Getting phat lavaland loot b) Getting magical slime loot c) Fight...

However the problem is the lack of things for the people who aren’t “mafia”. Jobs are tedious and unrewarding. There’s only so many times you can just do your job. Mining and xenobio don’t really have this problem because the job is rewarding and gives you cool toys to have fun with. This isn’t real...

The AI recognizes that borging is not itself a harmful process because that's how borgs are made. The rules literally fucking say "Involuntary debraining and/or cyborgization is a fatally harmful act that Asimov silicons must attempt to stop at any point they're aware of it happening to a huma...

I have been told in the past that surgery without a harmful end goal isn’t harmful. Even if the surgery is not being consented to. So if someone is having an implant removed or being pacified against their will the surgery does not need to be stopped. But if they are being borged or having their hea...

Hey hey hey this is still fucking stupid 5 years later and is still happening. Yeah, its more of a problem that the chaplain on at least one map starts with his own shard. Chaplain isn’t needed to do this. Non cult can’t shard people but they should be able to take an already sharded person and put...

One problem is how it’s impossible to use as a cyborg. Cyborgs don’t have open hands to unbuckle people so If someone is buckled to it the only way I can get them off it is waiting for them to unbuckle themselves, waiting for someone else to unbuckle them, or just taking the bed apart.

Give borgs the same intents as normal crew. It's simple to code and most effective. What purpose does this have when it only means anything for this specific scenario? Borgs don’t have open hands so they can’t use the intents and it just changes how their modules interact with things or if they can...

Separate it from the station and make it in space? Like the bomb center? I don't think that would solve the problem of the gateway being the spawn point of a round ending antag that needs to be killed immediately and how its difficult for most of the station to access it on the occasion that an adm...

I have no clue how this could be fixed but IMO the Gateway really shouldn't be in maint and out of the way. Its more difficult to access if an admin does a gateway event and if swarmers spawn you would have no time to respond before its already escaped into the vents and presses the round end button...

Mickyan wrote:Maybe the roundstart variant shouldn't drop the stun baton, or drop an old baton that breaks apart after one hit, if you want to be fancy.

But then you can’t rebuild Beepsky as easily when he dies

And then no one responds because they either didn’t notice, didn’t care, or don’t know where disposals is. Last time I got stuck down disposals I was screaming for help for a good couple of minutes before anyone showed up. And what if comms are down and someone shoves you down disposals? Just die? T...

the complete removal of waste sorting from cargo means that anyone that gets dumpstered gets lead directly to disposals. Why do people insist on making the disposals loop safe for travel? It's the garbage disposals system. Jump into the back of a garbage truck and see where it leads you. In fact, I...

regardless of what is discussed the final decision should allow silicons to destroy mechs even if code changes need to be made. Otherwise you have silicons unable to do anything as a mech rampages killing people

However a silicon is not allowed to cause any harm to stop harm. You could argue its like the holoparasite thing where its the humans fault for choosing not to leave the mech but thats a bit of a stretch.

all lizards are degenerates that deserve to be deported to their natural habitat, the black abyss of space

Really the main point of this thread was just to have a defined line. Obviously there has to be a single set line for admins to enforce, and if there isn't then wouldn't it be beneficial to have one so admins are more consistent? It would be helpful in some of the grayer areas like chemistry where i...

The overall design of it is bad and I don’t think any changes can fix it. The main problem I have with it is the fact that there is just one direction to go in. Imagine if you took the circle and pulled it into a line. The entire station would just be a straight line with departments above and below...

It doesn’t feel like that big of a leap to restrict say RnD. Toxins is locked off for the potential of bombings. You can print bags of holding to make BoH bombs that can cause mass harm and with no effort. You can print AI upload boards along with the law modules. AIs can restrict secure tech storag...

Shaps-cloud wrote:Why has no one still added eyes to moths yet

No reason to work on it because someone else will get around to it eventually it

I think it’s a bug for moths. For plasmemes it’s not that they are immune but more so that they always wear their helmets which happen to be flash proof. This means that you have to knock them into crit, bring them to a shower, remove their helmet, and then flash them, out the helmet back on, heal t...

In ban appeals there is currently an appeal by an AI player who was banned for denying access to science to a miner (Among other things). While their reasoning was flimsy, they overall said they denied access due to the miner being illegitimate and denied them access based on rule where people witho...

Whoneedspacee wrote:theblob is for blob blob normal blob

Im sorry, did you just have a stroke or something?

Eh not a fan of a lot of these. Overall I believe the emag shouldn’t have a function that is purely positive to the crew and has no downsides or illegal uses. I think change the holopad one so you can instead spy on any other holopad. With the crew monitoring, if a crew member gets an emag they can ...

I don’t get some of the “No OOC in IC” rules considering there are two mechanics that make you use OOC in IC, specifically brain damage and the smile mutation which makes you use the smile emote when talking

Gangs was bad because it tries to do what cult did except it replaces everything with "guns". Guns make for shitty balance and security hates it when anyone else has guns because most of the edge of being security is having access to that. Gang shouldn't be readded because like every othe...

Were newbies not already restricted from head roles? Wasn’t that the entire point of the playtime unlock system? It’s too leniant to the point of anyone being able to get past the gate with ease. Especially because it can be done in one round if it’s long enough even if you don’t learn how to play ...

Is it possible to have the time broken up amongst all jobs that are in a department? So 3 hours as genetics, 3 hours as virology, 3 hours of chemistry, etc for CMO

>Brought into robotics to be borged >Roboticists decide to augment before getting to borging >1st roboticist finally gets to borging me, gets to the manipulate organs step >Ask 2nd robo what they do here, don’t get a response so they just unga my head off >Cuts my head open and the 2nd robo says tha...

People who crowd in medical and break into chemistry to make a cure for the disease that you have vaccines for in the chemstorage

I am thinking changeling considering you would be pretty much unkillable due to the extreme circumstances to kill you. Your family would also be immortal with you. But if the other antags are also present I would have to go for wizard in order to fight off the others like blood cult and other wizard...