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the only balance issues with hivemind in my opinion are that hiveminds can use abilities directly on each other Honestly, I think that if hivemind hosts were immune to each other's powers (that aren't meant to specifically be used on other hivemind hosts), a lot more people would like playing as a ...

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confused rock wrote:Didn't we literally change mechs exploding so they could be harmed?

confused rock is right; we did: https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/pull/43055

In short, destroying a mech no longer causes harm to its pilot, so this thread is somewhat irrelevant now.

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Are circuits currently oppressive on Hippie? If not, is that not valid evidence that circuits have been fixed to be fun and have less balance/powergaming issues?

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What if, instead of disabling AI control across all z-levels that aren't their own, we just disabled the ability to call the shuttle of AIs who aren't on the station's z-level (or who haven't been on the station's z-level at any point in the last 5 minutes)? We could apply the same thing to comms co...

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Nobody remembers CC fondly I do... The mode was deeply flawed, but it was cool, and admin-spawned clock cult rounds are often quite fun (when used in moderation/only occasionally). Maybe just add a borg upgrade board to the ruin that turns the upgraded borg into a clock cultist borg (until they're ...

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cedarbridge wrote:Are you interested in actually giving real reasons you think the map should be removed from rotation or is this a shitpost?

He's right, though.

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To clarify, by "after the round has ended", do you mean "after the shuttle left the station" or "after the shuttle docked with Centcomm"? If the former, this quote from the rules (https://tgstation13.org/wiki/Rules) might be relevant: Rules still apply until the emergen...

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Yeah, an emagged crew monitor should report incorrect values for things in some way, such as showing dying people as completely healthy, tracking beacons giving the wrong coordinates, and so on. I had initially considered that, but I figured that someone making a suit sensors console in maint and r...

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I noticed that quite a few machines don't have any effects when emagged, so I decided to make a thread for putting emag effect ideas in. Ideally, these interactions shouldn't give much of an advantage (since emags are already one of the best/strongest traitor items in the game), but should still pro...

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Maybe we could add some VR sleepers to ninja prison while we're at it?

... Are there already some there?

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Thoughts on the disembodied idea: • Any ability that lets your vessel know that they are assimilated will lead to them calling you out over comms and also de-assimilating if possible. This is an existing issue with Mind Control; if a hivemind must Mind Control a vessel, it is in their best interest...

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Make hivemind hosts immune to the powers of other hivemind hosts (except for the ones that are specifically supposed to only work on hivemind hosts) so that they can't just instakill/instabeat each other as soon as they come into conflict (without using mundane weapons, mind-controlled people, etc.)...

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Alright, good to know.

Should a staff of change be treated like an incredibly lethal weapon, then, since it can make humans nonhuman with a single bolt? What about meme mutation toxin plants from botany?

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Can they do it in borg chat? Borg chat isn't verbal/sound-based, IIRC.

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I feel like I should mention that the moth being flashproof was a (known) bug: https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/issues/43255 If the moth wasn't wearing a welding mask, the moth had eyegear on that provided no eye protection (or had no eyegear whatsoever), the moth wasn't blind, and it was way ...

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Currently, if a borg (left) click+drags a humanoid's sprite onto themselves, they'll both buckle that humanoid to themselves and open up the interface/menu for managing the inventory of/stripping said humanoid. This is annoying, as the interface/menu will cause you to stop in your tracks when it app...

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Right now, all emagging the organ harvester does is let you harvest the organs of someone who's still alive (without them needing to have the fakedeath trait). Unfortunately, an emagged (and a normal) organ harvester still requires your victim to have no non-nodrop items on their person in order to ...

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So what if someone says vampire! And everyone heads to the chapel and camps there and builds a shuttle call panel there Then the vampire bombs them with a TTV bomb, plasmafloods the chapel, subverts the AI, and/or sends in its thralls to kill them. so basically you wait for some shithead to self-an...

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Super Aggro Crag wrote:So what if someone says vampire! And everyone heads to the chapel and camps there and builds a shuttle call panel there

Then the vampire bombs them with a TTV bomb, plasmafloods the chapel, subverts the AI, and/or sends in its thralls to kill them.

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Say I imprint my DNA into a pAI and then mind transfer into someone else while the pAI watches (and after I told them that I was going to mind transfer). Is the pAI bound to obey me or my previous body? What if I give them a law that says something along the lines of "Your master is the soul of...

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i ll make a pr soon where only cap gets loud headset thats a big step in the right direction thank you sir thats a big step in the wrong direction please stop sir In all seriousness, why not add an option in the preferences menu that lets you scale how big B I G T E X T is for you in comparison to ...

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To elaborate further, I mean that we should add an oxygen tank and a breath mask to all of the various space suit boxes that traitors and nuke ops can buy (the space suit one, the hardsuit one, the shielded hardsuit one, and any others that I missed). It's odd that the Syndicate would provide access...

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Can't they just take the krav maga gloves from the warden's locker?

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D&B wrote:Nobody remembers CC fondly

I do...

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If you haven't been monitoring the chat for a while/don't want to go back and look at the chat log, it can kind of be hard to tell if you're still hypnotized/what your hypnotic commands are.

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It's just a further kick to them while they're down, and practically ensures that they'll never ever get to use those cool high-tier psychic powers if they die from a bomb or something halfway through the round and get cloned. Other hivemind hosts will assimilate most of a dead hivemind host's vesse...

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CrackParrot wrote:Sorry about that i just wanted to tell you the whole situation behind the ban and the reason why i did what i did.

We understand that, but breaking it up into separate paragraphs (without necessarily cutting out stuff/information) would increase the readability of your appeal greatly.

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Oof, alright.

It was just rUIniNG My iMMeRsoN that there's nothing between "welding helmet" and "no protection at all" in the eye protection-granting helmet field, but it's honestly not that bad.

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If almost no one is playing a fly (so they are rarely seen), why would them being a roundstart race cheapen the teleporter accident event?

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I’m sure coding a rare welding mask that works with shades which needs to be specifically acquired for the entire one job that wears no armored helmet and wears sunglasses, which usually doesn’t weld enough to worry about protection stronger than shades, will be a worthwhile addition to the game, a...

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Add a way to craft a "lesser" welding mask that applies less tint but also applies less eye protection (sunglasses-level of protection). This'd let it (the new type of welding helmet) be used with sunglasses without fully blinding you, while also not being strong enough to fully shield you...

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I should also bring up another point: Are we sure that making our medical system (more) complex is a good idea? Do we want doctors to screw up on a regular basis, forcing people to die or endure a 10-30 minute waiting period because someone other than them (the patient) was incompetent? That sounds ...

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My idea is to not do any of that This. Also, this is relevant (from https://i.digg.com/r/SS13/comments/asbfrr/sigh/): https://i.redd.it/4jbpczvmkjh21.jpg If you're on a lowpop round without many/any/competent Medbay personnel, life will be a living hell (and God help you if a traitor bombs Medbay o...

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Imagine disconnecting yourself specifically for the purpose of giving up a chance at being an antag/having permission to act like an antag.

In all seriousness, we should probably turn this into an issue on Github.

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Honestly, non-human or no, it seems like a dick move to space you when you took the time to keep the borg player in the round. To be fair, after drifting in space (I had managed to remove their battery before dying) a bit with my corpse and eventually reaching a space ruin, they did bring my corpse...

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Yeah, I brought them all the way down to being an MMI.

And MMI'd borgs do keep their memories of their previous lives- which is what lets borging someone so you can law 2 them into telling you their uplink code work (they even keep their notes tab and objectives, IIRC).

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Last round, I, a lizard roboticist, was pursued by a borg who had been law 2'd by a human traitor to kill me. I flashed them, deconstructed them, and then put them in a new (unsync'd, so they were on Asimov) shell. After a few moments of hesitation, they resumed trying to kill me and spaced me, pres...

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Ash lizard station invasions are fun and interesting; don't remove/nerf into oblivion them. They can also add some spice to Extended rounds, which I think is good.

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desc = "A suit that protects against radiation. The label reads, 'Made with lead. Please do not consume insulation.'"

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Oh man, I love this idea. Maybe you should make ORMs only work on the station, in the Auxiliary Base, or in the Mining Base (or just anywhere that isn't inside of the Mining Base or the Auxiliary Base on Lavaland proper)? Otherwise, people are just gonna put an ORM 2 tiles south of a drill and never...

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Stun prods (and stun batons, although they get a better chance (35%)) only have a 10% chance to stun their target/trigger when they hit someone after being thrown at them; why don't elances?

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Like, if you're so hellbent on making Medbay/playing as a doctor more interactive, just make sleepers only able to synthesize epinephrine (and morphine if you emag them or something). I did this along with sleepers actually full-halting all Life() ticks so that it was a literal "stabilize the ...

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I agree with pretty much everything Shadowflame909 has said here. I'd also like to bring up the point that nobody likes sitting still in Medbay for 15-30 minutes while they wait for an incompetent doctor to try (and fail) to heal their broken leg that they got because they were caught in the light d...

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For 1, a method less hacky would probably having the flag set to true by default, and is set to false during the final construction step. That way any non-standard ED-209 would have the flag set to true. I'm worried that that might somehow break something somewhere in the future, though... But yeah...

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Idea: Add an item (preferably with limited charges) that marks something with a special glow that only drones can see that indicates to them that they should not touch/mess with that thing. Perhaps give it some minor (as there'd be plenty of ways to "get around" this if you really wanted t...

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1. Make using the shapechange spell set the "remote_disabled" flag of your new form to "TRUE" if your new form is a bot. That way, ED-209 wizards can't be remotely shut down by an AI or a borg mid-combat. EDIT: Alternatively (as suggested by 4d over discord), make a subtype of th...

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I appreciate it, but I think they'd rather get rid of me. And I'm definitely not waiting another year to do an appeal when I've honestly tried to better myself. As much as it's going to suck I can see the " Denied " decision coming from a mile away. And when it drops that's that. But yeah...

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Jack Jackson, moth extraordinaire and uploader of laws (and a scientist that round, not a roboticist), here. I'm really lazy, so I'm just gonna put a copy+paste of my side of the story that I posted on Discord in a spoiler here: ATHATHToday at 3:52 AM you saw my early textdump about ishortjrm8, righ...

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Everyone is debating about whether AI is allowed to interpret ATHATHs commands as delamming SM but delamming it literally leads to the AI disobeying their law 1 (Obey the intents of Jack Jackson's commands that are directed at you). Order to shock doors -> AI delams engine -> No more power -> Can’t...

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