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ChangelingRain

Pirou (655) MrStonedOne: <Miauw> you should testrun some of the new maps in the spriting and mapping section, ESPECIALLY birdboatstation for basil MrStonedOne They need to be pr'ed, so I can just use that MrStonedOne because of the whole live tracking from github thing, its not easy to make local c...

ChangelingRain

I remember saying I was going to update the map image, so I did that! Look at it, it's not hugely outdated!

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Alright, fixed most of those: The AI core is now much close to engineering, with an accordingly shorter tube The sanitarium now has less windows and the door opens into the prison wing area instead of the prison wing access I can't make arrivals less desolate without pretty big changes to the layout...

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I made a map, wew: https://tgstation13.org/wiki//images/7/76/Dreamstation.png Image is 100% updated You can click here for fullsize. Latest Changes: *Fixed Chaplain being unable to use massdriver door. *Please for the love of god report bugs and other issues Is merged now! Probably still needs test...

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I honestly really dislike nuke ops, it just doesn't do it for me.
As my second pick, ling because it's a design travesty and pretty shit as its own roundtype(though it might get better once the team objectives actually fucking work)

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Pull one changes blob space expansion from RNG to about 25% effect, meaning a blob tile on space has approximately 25% of its normal health. https://github.com/tgstation/-tg-station/pull/11616 Three wrench hits, or in other words, 15 brute damage, will kill a space blob, or one laser or welder hit. ...

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Might as well let people choose their favorite dish/drink, because honestly they're not going to all choose one thing to make it easy on the chef/bartender so it won't matter too much.

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That's not actually a bug, though it IS excessively unclear code and an accidental result, read, the core dying. It is effectively "Die in devastation range, randomly either die in heavy range or take 27.5 damage, and take 22.5 damage in light range." Removing that line isn't a proper solu...

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I endorse or otherwise select ausops as my pick because they're pretty good, yup.

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FUCK IT I'VE DONE IT https://github.com/tgstation/-tg-station/pull/11495
MAKES BLOBS SUPER IMMUNE TO BOMBS SO THEY STOP DYING TO THEM, THANK ME LATER
ALSO GIVES PROPER DESCRIPTIONS TO BLOB STUFF BECAUSE OH MY GOD THOSE WERE CRAP

ChangelingRain

You CAN make a cube out of them, but there would need to be special handling code for the top and bottom faces so that they entered out from the right side with the right direction and I'm not sure that's especially easy to do.

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Not all the zlevels are the same width and height AND it doesn't switch your direction when you'd move, say, left from the top level, say, the station level, to one of the side levels, say, the mining level. You don't arrive at the mining level from the top of the mining zlevel, you arrive from the ...

ChangelingRain

Neurotoxin, the alien projectile, is alien only. Neurotoxin, the chemical, is not.

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I used the fire one yesterday. Seems pretty tame as it couldn't beat the det and the hos to death when they came after me on a tip off from another syndicate. I think I probably overnerfed it after the rampage Pybro was mentioning where I killed ~20 people in escape just running in circles igniting...

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https://github.com/tgstation/-tg-station/pull/11187
Makes revenants spawn as an event and buffs them a bunch.

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There are also two in the engineering entrance, so you don't even have to go into engineering to get them.
It's still one less door to go in from engineering maint, though.

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Cult has room for improvement but this is not improvement, this version of cult COULD be an improvement but it would require an almost unprecedented level of effort. Your idea isn't anywhere near a workable game mode but I'll throw out a few quick reasons: 1) 3 starter cult when many early runes re...

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Ling really needs that rework, yup.
Giving lings all powers for free won't actually make them use the stuff that doesn't get used, though. It doesn't get used not because they can't buy it, but because it's shit and or costs too many chemicals.
Cough cough signature cough please give feedback cough

ChangelingRain

Blob cores were never actually immune to bombs, but nobody noticed because the range on devastation was so low.

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This is a good question to ask! Words(and thus research) are the main problem with current cult; they're a limiter on cult power that doesn't work, being easily cheesable via research, as well as randomly granted by sacrifices, making any possible limit on a rune's power via it being hard to obtain ...

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Numbers, especially power numbers, are definitely not final. Instead of researching words, the cult needs to increase its power by corrupting tiles, constructing pylons, sacrificing unfortunate victims, and outright conversion. The cult tome still has three options; communicate, scribe, and check no...

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Grab a prisoner, watch as they just walk away.
The issue for this got closed because it's not a bug.

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A pull for this is already up; https://github.com/tgstation/-tg-station/pull/10990

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Step one: get a RCD, magboots, and suit, or in other words loot EVA.
Step two: walk in the general direction of the AI, ignoring everything it does as you shit out walls and remove doors.
Step three: sit in front of the AI, reading WGW to it until it suicides.

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It seems kind of unintuitive that the AI hacking its own APC, in a core that's meant to be extremely secure for it, is as bad as a traitor buying his powersink in the middle of the hallway in front of the captain. Heck, it's probably more secure to hack an apc that's actually in the main halls, beca...

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It's not a terrible idea, it's basically just a bonus thing for ghosts to do if fucking nothing is happening which is something that's kind of needed.

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I was the AI in that gang round, and yeah scrubbers were hilariously powerful with shocked doors. The only people who could have conceivably shut off the scrubbers without getting shocked, the CE and engineers, were dead before they could get to suits. It was AMUSING, but I killed more or less every...

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There are so few air and fire alarms that a fire in medbay could spread past firelocks in multiple areas and it was noticeably tricky to find the air alarm in an area to activate siphons or otherwise fuck with the area's atmos.

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It's nodes, but basically that, yes. It's hilarious; in one round, I managed to coordinate three other blobs into shunting into one location, in this case being science. We won handily, with none of us dying.

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It got rejected because it can cause things that you might not want to show up; why not just reduce the costs of stuff you want to show up more instead?

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It probably fucks up the anti ai-tracking thing it has and whoever coded it didn't want to deal with it. Probably.

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It's why nuke ops have maint access; it has syndicate accesses plus maintenance. The main downside is that it doesn't fit in a PDA.

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I'm just dropping this entire AI core design in here, just in case you want the AI to be hideously robust. http://puu.sh/j5vWS/019ccbb626.png http://puu.sh/j5w26/68c6d4806f.dmm Just rightclick+save as. EDIT: and yes it's 100% intended that no camera can see the core APC I don't think it's exactly fu...

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Steelpoint's stuff only got merged because he wasn't active in the IRC to get yelled at for having stupid ideas. This has been rectified.

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It's definitely a large improvement from current ling, I'd find. The trick is balance. I do like that there are progression elements and ling factions, and that, say, the murderboner lings can't change identities, but are tough-as-nails to kill. Something about antagonists becoming more and more po...

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I made a really in-depth ling idea, and it sounds like the thing people want.

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Only blob spore smoke does that; actual chemistry-made smoke and wizard smoke do not.

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The smoke clouds should either actually BE 3x3 or have a 1x1 sprite because it's really unnecessarily confusing to look 3x3 but be 1x1.

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Changeling wants to be three different styles of play, so why not change ling to be split into three different 'hives', each with different styles of play and powers. All hives have the normal :g talk, but can only normally communicate with members of their own hive. Hives are not obligated to help ...

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No, those comments are from the guy who tried to remove the chainstun and wants to sneak in more nerfs.

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Whitelist blob, instead.

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You won't have tools in perma.

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Blobs don't have a ranged attack, but being in the general area of a smoke cloud will probably kill you, and possibly everyone nearby if it's sorium.

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Sorium blob smoke clouds don't just murder the person who steps in them, they murder everyone nearby by slamming them into walls.

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Some alternative adjustments to m(a/i)crobombs; https://github.com/tgstation/-tg-station/pull/10186
I'd honestly prefer to revert them but I can imagine the screaming.

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You can't make a camera's vision "invisible to the AI", it just doesn't work like that. AIs just can't jump to cameras not on the SS13 or AI networks, they can see areas even if the camera for that area is on a different network.

ChangelingRain

The best trick would be to use four emitters powering four field generators, all in a circle(3x3 area) around the dominator, which would make it nearly unassailable; you'd need to take down all four emitters to turn off the shield to get at the dominator, which would take a large amount of time.

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The problem is, right now they basically just pop up, robust a man, drag them a bit, and instantly leave for a full heal, so that wouldn't change how they play much; it'd only matter if they got trapped and unable to reach blood.

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The teleporter board was 20 telecrystals before telecrystal values were doubled, so it basically got hugely reduced in cost when that was done.

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If a "nerf" down to 15 tile range makes people stop using the xray laser, then they probably have no idea how long 15 tiles is.

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