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QuartzCrystal

Un-announcement-ing this thread now as the issue is settled.

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Just wanted to share that just now, as an admin, I put a dead prostitute in Captain Jack Steiner's room. Centcom saw this and Steiner was then promptly arrested, despite being set up. Steiner was able to be reinstated with the support of Centcom while "Syndicated News!" reported on the new...

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Looks like once MSO gets around to implementing it, public logs (minus asay and ahelps) is go.

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Gonna get another admin to weigh in here as well but quite frankly Hankmoody you seemed to be a real shit and went above and beyond with this.

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Post No 10,000,000? How much shitposting can you even fucking shit out over there? Also I'm fairly sure MSO or whoever the forum admins are can actually check on the lifespans of the voting accounts. That was how they caught paprika and co making ghost accounts to try and rig a forum vote a while b...

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Heres the thing... If you have admin logs without ahelp/apm/asay you see actions without the conversation behind them. "some new admin has traitor'ed some new admin" has a whole new meaning if its preceded by "some old admin: So some new admin, if you want edit people's antag status,...

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By the way scrubbing ckeys isn't the end of the world but it does make things more of a pain since you need to remember the name you were using at the time. I don't see the need to scrub ckeys really. I think this is something we can discuss once we finally decide which logs we want public. I agree...

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Ikarrus wrote:Okay but there's no harm in adminhelps.

IMO players should be able to say something to the admins without it being open to public scrutiny.

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Ikarrus wrote:I'm just saying there's no point in making adminbus under strict lockdown but asay is still public. And if we're going to disable public notes because of metacommunication, a lot of metacomms gets discussed in asay as well.

Exactly.

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And I understand scrubbing identifying information like IPs and CIDs but ckeys? really? Needless to say, none of the options presented in this poll represent my opinion. The only things that need scrubbing are IPs, CIDs, asay and notes. I don't see why anything else needs to. That's not an option b...

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The headmins have apparently decided, without consulting with the admins or players, that ADMIN logs will be made public. These are the only logs to be made public. Basically asay, adminhelps, admin actions, etc etc will all be made public. The only thing that will be censored are CKEYs. This does n...

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Nononononononononono.

Security being antags (ANY security) was painful for everyone involved. When we changed it there was basically no complaints. I don't know why this is something we're even discussing.

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Just posting here to say:

No. We made this change for a reason. The game is vastly better because of this change.

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Bluespace has been doing a lot of shit like this lately it would seem.

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I'm leaving this unlocked in case anyone wants to raise any concerns about this.

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Discussion seems non-existent. Locking and removing this from the announcements now.

We'll do this all over again in 6 months!

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If you notice an individual has a particular habit of doing this then ahelp it. There are some players who have notes like "Has a habit of breaking into the bar" a month ago and then escalated to "Has been given his final warning for breaking into the bar, ban if he does it again"...

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One time got just got a bunch of explosives with an emag, I giggled quite a bit as I just absolutely bombed the bridge to shit.

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When an a-help comes through and there's multiple admins on be sure to ask before messaging them, so that way the player doesn't get double bwoinked. This is minor and I've only seen you do this a couple times.

In general you're doing a great job.

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Then while you're trying to process the prisoner an assistant runs into the brig and the warden ends up stunning the entire room trying to stop him, the lawyer is demanding he speak to his client privately, people are screaming over radio that they need back up, etc and all you want to do is just gi...

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It's gotta be a system that you can actually escape (let's say the teleport takes like, a bit to go through). But is significantly faster than the system we already have.

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Alex Crimson wrote:Isnt the manual brigging part of the fun? Prisoners trying to escape rather than some one-press button that does all the work for you.

Please read my post above.

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Akkryls wrote:-snip-

This has been talked about at tedium for years. Copying Goon is another possibility. We just need a coder to actually do it.

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Yeah this really should have just been made as a ban request. Sometimes admins go AFK and never see or hear your bwoink. Hell, you could tried to ping someone on IRC if it was such a big deal and asked them to log on and handle your issue.

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D-does anyone play this on PS4? :'(

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The best event I ever did was I told everyone in the lobby that this round would be a crazy event, but it's secret. I then made it extended, put a strange item in the hallway north of the bridge and then didn't press anything else for the rest of the round. The round ended around the hour mark and e...

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If admins did not protect griefers to the point where security is obligated to play catch and release with them this wouldn't be such an issue. Or if the bartender was allowed to just kill the person ruinong his round for no reason You'd be hard pressed to find an admin who will take issue with a g...

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Jordie0608 wrote:Could do Instant-runoff voting or something similar next time to hasten the process?

This is quite possible, ranked ballots (or at least multiple polls with clearly labeled "FIRST CHOICE" "SECOND CHOICE" etc) could work.

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Hiding behind the "He beat a prisoner already once/killed someone with the captain's permission so me locking him up now prevents future harm!" is a real stretch as we've already all established it's about *IMMEDIATE* harm. That's not a real stretch, it's following Law 1. It's the exact p...

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I'm officially the worst. Going to delay this event even further. Unstickying this thread as it's useless now.

A new sticky will be made when I can confirm 100% when this is happening.

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Don't forget borgs often get their ques of human harm from the AI. You could be ordering the borg to go into the hallway, etc but if the AI heard you say "We're gonna force borg this guy" and tells the borg, the borg isn't going to listen to you. Now, what really grinds my gears and I thin...

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Yes, it would be primarily for use in appealing bans, the primary use case I am thinking of is longer term bans where I no longer remember what happened or the circumstances around my ban. Having the logs to refresh my memory would be extremely useful. Agreed. There's too many "Hi my ban reaso...

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That said, telling security "You've done too good a job of suppressing the antags, as punishment we're going to fuck your station up" is kind of shitty too. It would be nice if security would more commonly get some powerful toys or a ninja ally or some sort of pseudo-antag objective to ma...

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I'm happy with the way the election unfolded this term, although I'm a bit puzzled how stickymayhem suddenly got so popular with the admins. Could someone enlighten me? I've been away the month prior to the election so I don't know what sticky did to suddenly become a hero. IMO (as I ended up votin...

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Final run off is going right now, it will be over just in time for the scheduled maintenance.

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Oi I forgot about you Brits. This may be rescheduled then depending on how many more are gonna miss out who want to participate.

Also, inb4 this keeps getting rescheduled and delayed, then we eventually host it and it totally sucks.

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I'm going to run this tonight. Later than 8pm EST though, probably closer to 10pm EST. If this doesn't work for you and you really want to participate, let it be known.

There's also a good chance I'm going to host this on Sybil.

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Sorry, but if you add 3 new game modes nearly all at once, admins are gonna push those buttons to see what happens (and I can think of a good dozen+ instances of players asking me for them through prayers, adminhelps, OOC and deadchat). Also, considering we're in a headmin/host transition period (an...

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This isn't actually a general statement about admins, it's an admin complaint in the wrong forum without proper formatting.

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Also given that there are 2 admin complaints in the last month, and one was mine being transferred from another forum, its clear that admins ruining rounds is not something that is being properly addressed by the system. I was the subject of the second complaint, which has nothing to do with what y...

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I was playing the heist set up where you have to steal the plane from the drug cartel, and holy fuck it was the first time I've gotten mad at GTA Online. Host/leader determines himself as pilot, which is fine. We get to landing strip and start popping off bad guys. The host/pilot keeps asking over m...

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Because democracy is a work in progress.

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Malkevin wrote:Don't see why the three votes can't be of the same batch of nominated candidates.

Unless a solid argument can be made against this, I see no reason why this wont be the case by the next election.

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Anything else you've noticed that's different for better or worse?

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Uh...flylofm is where it's at.

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I don't care if asay is hidden, I want attack and round chat/pda/ooc logs, possibly also the interaction log Why though? So I don't have to wait for an admin to get the logs when I make my case, I can make my case myself and also refresh my memory about what happened so I don't misremember what hap...

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I dunno if this really warrants a complaint. If an admin did this habitually (or even, kinda irregularly) sure, but a one time instance of the shuttle being recalled once? Ehhhhhhh. Did people die? Were people's experiences of the game absolutely ruined because of this? Was the extra 5 minutes or so...

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miggles please just leave then. You're not having fun, and you're not adding to the fun here. No one is getting anything out of your presence. Any further shitposting by anyone in this thread will be deleted. If you want to bitch about the election results/the community or whatever, please make a se...

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We'll gladly share any information after the run off vote is done to put your worries of a conspiracy at rest. if youre actually telling me theres no conspiracy and the players of this server voted for those people then tg station is actually, officially, forever, 100% dead although its pretty much...

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Someone could easily gain the admin boost by asking myself or another trainer to candidate you a few rounds, etc.

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