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I did touch on that in the thread. Crooks got a crazy survivability boost from their new armor options and while crouching in fights is gone that wasn't the crook's real MO anyway. It basically got pure buffs because its now so much easier to stack armor bonuses. LWBVs are still sorta ok but only if...

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After playing with An0n3 today I can say with confidence the rumors of crook's demise have been greatly exaggerated.

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The rumors of crook's death have been greatly exaggerated.

I am highly skeptical of dead presidents replacing it. Crooks never hurt for health before, and getting a boost to your armor seems like a better deal. If you don't like brittle tank why would you run presidents?

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Trade 2 changes it so that trading with the secondary instead of costing command instead reduces the value of the trade by 1, so you trade more often, but get less value for each trade. It also gives the primary the ability to cancel a specific trade, rather than nuking all the trades. It soooorta d...

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Hey, I disagree, but I don't think either of us are going to change our minds so lets just stick with the Rules when it comes to Promissory Notes. Play with Support, but no Free Trade. I am 110% willing to play with the trading of notes if people are down for that. I am just stating why I think it ...

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I am saying that because player elimination is basically not a thing in Twilight, because the amount of unnecessary resources required to do something that is strictly speaking not helpful to you, Support as a method to encourage smaller empires to capitulate a VP does the exact opposite of what you...

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The game is rather famous for the fact that it is really really really hard to eliminate a player and in no way worth your time. Support adds nothing to the game it lacks.

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Allowing free exchange of notes makes bubble victories more probable, but itself isn't the issue. More long term note deals should definitely be something you can go back on. Complicated binding agreements that are freely usable are rare as hell for a reason in this game. Basically they should have ...

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>Internet Twilight on Saturday >Hosting my own Twilight on Sunday I actually have a suspended game on the table right behind me . But what the hell, I'm in. I've taught the game to countless new players, but I'm not sure how well that will translate online. Also we should discuss House Rules if any...

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I was just trying to screw with you and get you to look around wildly for me, because someone else was nearby repairing. Voice is only fun if you heckle a bit. Though that one trap spot was legit hilariously bad because it was out in the open near the doors but not blocking any path of movement. Goo...

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I am down to play.

This video is a rather easy to follow way to learn the game, rather than a 2 hour rules dump that doesn't go into the context of what happens.

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While a dozer can deal 450 damage on deathwish, that requires you to be at complete point blank range. As long as you aren't hugging the dozer you will always have time to run. At a block away the dozer capable of one shotting you is only dealing 50 damage a shot. Other dozers can still pack extreme...

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The trick is to never treat your health as part of your actual tank IMO. Once your health starts taking hits you sprint out. Unless you are facing down 6 snipers you will never go from even half health to 0 before you get in cover.

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It is there. Everything that was good about the crook got amplified, because the multiplication equation got more balanced if that makes sense. We moved further away from 2 times 7 and towards 5 times 5, it always was about multiplying your dodge chance into your armor and health, meaning it is even...

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>killing people too quickly will result in you de-ranking That's retarded. No, if you kill everyone you still gain rank. If you focus exclusively on killing people at the cost of all other activities, you lose rank if you don't manage to do it because you failed in all 4 categories of activity, and...

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Crook got even tougher m8. I ran the numbers and everything that made the crook good got better because our armor is now universally higher. The crook's EHP went from 514 to 549 HP, assuming you take the tank capstone and the aced skill that grants 20 armor, and in addition they got the ability to n...

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I literally never have used the grinder deck, but when you all were using it with me you kept flopping about on the ground. I don't think a deck where your tank depends on everything going well is exactly viable, you are super vulnerable to even slight disruptions like a taser.

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He's rewarded for a quick defeat if he gets a sacrifice? Nope. I meant letting them get away early as in letting them get off the hook early in the match, which many rookie killers don't realize as they often think their main job is to butcher the survivors as fast as possible. The killer is reward...

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Actually he emancipated the slaves, which caused a breakdown in the southern economy because suddenly now massive parts of the workforce were aware that if they made sure their side lost they would become free, and then crushed The South.

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To be fair that is pretty much literally what Lincoln did.

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Closets are designed for 'pre-hiding' and are not useful during a chase. There are perks to help survivors be more quiet, I have one on Meg, but I tend to not like closets that much. The game is considered strongly survivor sided. You would be surprised at how good some survivor players are at ditch...

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In the threads: 900 babies crying about how the killer camps them when they get hooked minute 1.

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Yes, invasions are big on warscore, but a specific invasion means jack shit. It is surreal and doesn't really reflect how things play out, Putin didn't anex Poland from the EU by invading Ukraine, toning invasion warscore way down unless the planet is a core world of the enemy or is what you are aft...

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The thing is that the game is primarily about space combat, and X4 games where you can lose a planetary invasion easily get super god damn boring. Armies need to matter more though. Hell, planetary invasion needs to matter more, like way more. As is it does almost nothing besides add to war score, t...

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That is actually higher than before if I recall. I capped out at 45. The damage resistance bonus from interacting is gone too right? That was really good when combined with the crouch boost. Now high armor has a niche in regards to static objectives.

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That is what most people do. You really start feeling good about that build when people start going down and you never die. Your main job is to make it impossible to fail the mission, like that time where I soloed that last half of Beneath the Mountain with you all. Sure, most of the mission I just ...

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Are you using armored vests?

Like I said, armored vests are probably the highest EHP in the game simply because the dodge is a multiplier. 3x3 is higher than 2x4. Losing 5% dodge is worth the extra armor you get because your armor multiplies into your dodge along with your health.

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Its not really hard to escape as the survivor if you focus on ensuring survival. Shocking, I know. But its weirdly non-intuitive. Most survivors overvalue hiding, helping others, or any individual task. Good survivors instead focus on being alert to the situation they are in and what can be, and nee...

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Some of the perks are really useful, it's just that with the level cap you mostly get the commons, which are OK but either too specialized or too general. The killer perks are stronger that the survivor perms for the most part it seems, because he doesn't get an item and because he has 1 perk and on...

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Rule 1 of this game:

The toolbox is there to sabotage hooks. If you sabotage all the hooks, the killer has a super hard time killing anyone.

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I have mastered the art of survival if I do say so myself... Keep an eye for potential exits whatever you do, that is the best way to not get caught. And make sure to cover ground. Sprinting is good, when the monster isn't near or when he knows where you are, you only hide when you think you can dit...

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Most common newbie mistake I see survivors make is not understanding the risks of rescue properly, especially when the killer is camping. Its generally a two man job to rescue, one guy needs to swoop in and distract the killer while the other one pulls someone off the hook, and its really hard to pu...

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Only if the killer makes creepy noises and mutters "Im gunna getcha!" while chasing us.

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I am down. Coordinated survivors are hell. I think the only thing scarier than the killer are 3 survivors with toolboxes and one with a flashlight.

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Killer advice: Traps: Put down traps frequently, especially near where you start. Don't save them, and always pick up a trap when you see it as long as you aren't chasing. The faster you get traps down the more helpful they are. Try to trap off the objective, rather than directly on it. Shit is easy...

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CROSSOVER HEISTER CONFIRMED.

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Well the point is that Tracer is the main one with the correct attitude. Its why she is the mascot and why the game's tagline is her quote. "The world could always use more heroes." Its also why I suspect the big 3 characters of the story are going to be Tracer, Lucio and McCree, they best...

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What is triage protocol?

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Lucio's only the group healer when the group is doing what it should. He is considered top tier because he can switch to the speed buff and solo flank when needed, and if the team is a mess, its generally better to win via dueling 1v1 a couple times behind enemy lines to force the game to be a 5v3 s...

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Specifically about progressing: You can rank up despite completely losing by simply tormenting the survivors or being amazingly helpful. In one of the streams every survivor got away but the dev gained 2 rank points because he managed to get every single one on the hook at least once.

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Factions aren't a huge deal if you know what you are doing, they are a very short term problem that only becomes dangerous if you mismanage influence or have no way to boost happiness.

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An0n3 wrote:I've only played like two hours since the game actually launched.

I guess I need to spend more time just rolling into pubs and less time hoping for invites.

You are the mover and shaker here I think. Try inviting others or setting up a time.

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Running vs the wraith seems to definitely be a bad idea, at least according to the devs once you realize they are the hunter you are supposed to take it slow and creep around. I suspect its either because you can't see the wraith when moving fast, and because it seems to have a darker map than norma...

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Depending on your setup you can start with over 100 happiness pretty easily at which case slavery becomes attractive.

Its also good if it won't knock you down a category, or to bootstrap colonies and eat the unhappiness penalty after you get the pops out.

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I saw that they were making this when they added the masks to Payday2. I'd like to avoid supporting it on the grounds that it's a blatant ripoff of Slasher, which was first announced in 2014. Slasher spent a lot of time in pre-production hell as it went through some hoops so that it could pick up t...

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Drynwyn wrote:skin trading when

The Widowmaker skin with a miniskirt is grade-a waifu material

She didn't exactly work out with her ex-husbando.

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I would kill to play Twilight of the imperium.

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He also counters stationary characters extremely well. There is a reason no one seriously is worried about Bastion at Blizzard, too many characters hard counter him. Your mercy heals and buffs don't mean shit if you die in 2 seconds because Junkrat combo'ed his mine and grenade on you, Tracer set yo...

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Im also a hanzo Main. I've played Genji the second most but I'm not super good with him. I'm pretty good with Reaper although I'm starting to think that's it not that hard to be good with him. After that, I just kinda jump around Mei, Junkrat, Reinhardt, and Bastion. I don't really play anyone else...

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