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feem

I'm really not a fan of policy being set purely through code and just making flavor text better doesn't fix the existing issues with the policy as written.

feem

since when do I have edit permissions on the wiki

feem

I would've asked you not to talk about the current round in OOC, and I can't say I wouldn't have deleted the dispenser.

Talking about the round in deadchat is fine, talking about it in OOC is not.

feem

I like the idea of simplifying it but until the role texts are vetted and updated I think this is a good solution. Also, while it's more complicated than I wanted it to be, I don't think this is a bad replacement for the current "Lavaland Policy" section of the rules.

feem

Maybe: Lavaland/Spawner Ghost Roles Lavaland and spawner ghost roles (such as golem shells, Lavaland syndicates, drones, space bartenders, or the like) are not meant to be replacements for or equal to station roles. People shouldn't kill you for no reason, but you're expected to follow the flavor te...

feem

I don Granted, I'm not an Admin so I don't see most of the shit that goes on. So maybe it really isn't a minority of people who are stupid as hell. The majority of ahelps don't result in notes or bans, and the majority of notes and bans don't result in appeals. So the visibility is pretty different ...

feem

This is a single-issue thread discussing a proposed change to the current lavaland rules segment of the rules page. Currently, this reads: Follow the flavour text you receive upon spawning to the best of your abilities. Unlike the rest of the rules, these roles are very much defined and guided by ro...

feem

I feel like maybe I should just open a new thread for the actually reasonable suggestions because this thread is literally just a slig/bohbomb hate thread and no one is cooperating with my attempts to change that.

feem

To summarize: 1) I am in no way suggesting that we should placate or defend a player who, as a lavaland neutral, boh bombs the station because someone took items from him that he had the resources to replicate. Whether the changes to the policy I'm suggesting are made or not, this policy will not af...

feem

When I do polls "NOOT NOOT" either wins versus the real options or comes in close enough that it's obviously disrupted the process

feem

"except through emergent gameplay" was a pretty important part of what I wrote. Since it didn't convey the intended meaning when you read it I think it could be revisited and edited for clarity. My point was that joining the game as a ghost role is a privilege which shouldn't necessarily c...

feem

I want to reiterate that my initial position on this was that adding a rule for this was stupid. I still think that way. But I read the rules page and I think y'all should too, and while I can't see how someone would judge that this particular action was okay, I can see how someone would be confused...

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EagleWiz wrote:Doesnt rule 1 already cover "someone stole my toolbox, I'm a non-antag ghost role, I'm going to end the entire round" ?

Bikeshedding. I'm not talking about what Slig did, I'm talking about what we can positively take away from this thread.

feem

The current rules are follow your flavor text @feem. Basic reading comprehension should've been learned in high school, if they can't infer that ash walkers are hostile, vets are not, and golems are essentially crew members with more relaxxed escalation they might not've passed high school. I'd be ...

feem

I don't know why I've had to say three times that I don't want a stringent policy, I want a simple clarification in the rules that we do not expect roundstart and lavaland ghost roles to be major actors within the round. The lavaland policy which currently exists does not effectively communicate thi...

feem

As I said, I don't think there's enough ambiguity in the rules to justify BoH bombing the station as a golem, but I do think that Slig has a point regarding there being some ambiguity as to whether or not ghost roles are allowed to engage the station at all, and there IS a statement saying that esca...

feem

After looking over the rules again, and with the caveat that we really shouldn't have to tell you not to boh bomb the station, Slig is right that there really isn't a good direction on that page for ghost roles to have limited interactions with the station. In fact, there's an explicit call-out that...

feem

Actually, it could be "I want to punish the crew for stealing from us, and I have no means of chasing down a guy thrice as fast as me." As a crewmember on the station, do you typically sabotage the supermatter because an engineer took your chainsaw? Do you generally boh bomb science when ...

feem

i'm extraordinarily disappointed that the position you're presenting is that you need a new, special rule not to release the ultimate weapon of destruction on the station as a non-player role

feem

cid match, IP pool match, behavior match. bye

feem

I'm sorry, this one is so cut and dry that it isn't even funny.

Not only have you literally multikeyed in the same round before, you've connected from the same IP pools and have been banned for exactly this before.

I gotta say I admire that you even tried an appeal, but yeah no.

feem

Uhhhhhhhhhhh

feem

feem

i hope your birthday was in January or February then

feem

Previous appeal:

https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic ... 34&t=12053

feem

... people trying to make things happen by getting violent and provoking chaos ... To a very great extent this is the point of the game. We have an extensive repair system and a role based entirely around it, for example. When you roll the round over every 30 minutes it's a lot harder to establish ...

feem

Buttplugg wrote:wow. I didn't remember it was that bad. That was some stupid shit I did there

This is actually a very good response.

feem

CPTANT wrote:Sure, if we remove extended first.

In my experience calling the shuttle because someone is bored after two hours is fine, calling the shuttle because someone is bored after 30 minutes is not.

And the latter happens much more frequently.

feem

Togopal wrote:Captains cant roll antag

Most of the time the person calling the shuttle because "I'M BORED" isn't a captain.

feem

I generally centcomm recall when I see this, and depending on how egregious it is, or how frequently they do it, I give out brain damage. If that doesn't convince them to stop then they get a talking to. I know this is kind of harsh, but you don't get to call the shuttle when there's nothing wrong w...

feem

there are a few people banned from one place or the other who are reasonably okay in other places

feem

No, but if they keep doing it every shift their "Metagrudge" privileges should be revoked because we all know how it's going to go down in the end anyways so we might as-well just skip to it and save time. Ain't nobody got time for abrasive and annoying nudist fuckers who try to piss you ...

feem

THIS THREAD IS STUPID

feem

Sorry, no, this is case by case.

feem

I'm really impressed that you're spending this much effort on this this time.

feem

I'm disappointed in the low amount of effort you've put into this appeal. When you were an admin, would you even have considered this appeal the way it's written? Saying 'what I did wasn't important anyway' is neither an admission that you understand why you were banned nor a reasonable indicator th...

feem

who cares

feem

You are banned from all silicon roles for one week, including cyborgs and AIs. Please re-read silicon policy. To put it simply, blowing up your cyborg near humans as an Asimov, regardless of the cyborg's disposition towards it, is a violation of your Law 1 regarding not harming or allowing harm to h...

feem

Don't do creepy sex shit and don't break drone laws. That makes sense to you, right?

feem

This was already handled with discussion.

https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic ... 34&t=13790

feem

I have no idea who you are and I think this was perfectly valid escalation. You wrecked a guy's mech because he fairly gently deterred you from being a shithead to him.

You got what you asked for. I think OP is probably fine.

feem

It means no, to start with you just get hot, but as it builds and your temperature goes up, you start taking damage. Like frost oil. I'd have to run some testing but I'm pretty sure 15 units will at least cause them to take some damage. I'm not sure if that's worth destroying a mech over, and I didn...

feem

/datum/reagent/consumable/capsaicin/on_mob_life(mob/living/M) switch(current_cycle) if(1 to 15) M.bodytemperature += 5 * TEMPERATURE_DAMAGE_COEFFICIENT if(holder.has_reagent("cryostylane")) holder.remove_reagent("cryostylane", 5) if(isslime(M)) M.bodytemperature += rand(5,20) if...

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Relevant logs: [16:35:07]ATTACK: Joye Mathews(danthenecroman) shot Respii Varenos(x) with syringegun (NEWHP: 98) (134,124,2) [16:36:37]ATTACK: Joye Mathews(danthenecroman) disarmed Respii Varenos(x) with (NEWHP: 98) (86,104,2) [16:36:41]ATTACK: Joye Mathews(danthenecroman) disarmed Respii Varenos(x)...

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It looks like these are the only syringegun attacks: [16:06:53]ATTACK: Joye Mathews(danthenecroman) shot Bilbo Buggins(x) with syringegun (NEWHP: 98) (131,115,2) [16:06:54]ATTACK: Joye Mathews(danthenecroman) shot Bilbo Buggins(x) with syringegun (NEWHP: 96) (131,115,2) [16:06:56]ATTACK: Joye Mathew...

feem

Ban reason:

Went around shooting people as non-antag roboticist with syringes in a mech, then killed and hid the brain of the person who destroyed said mech after being shot. Claimed that they didn't know why that person destroyed their mech.

1-day ban.

feem

Armhulen wrote:I agree with feem basically but it IS POSSIBLE

this is awesome

but still don't beat up your crew because they're pushing back against your meme

feem

Captains are allowed to do memey shit, but you've gotta roll with the punches. You rushed in and lol so random demanded people do something I'm not sure they can even do and told them you'd demote them if they didn't, then you started beating up your own crew. They tried to subdue you, you escaped f...

feem

I'm not speaking as an admin here right now, but as a gamerunner in general. I've run a lot of online games with much heavier IC/OOC separation than we have here, and in all of those, there were a couple things expected of admins: * It will be impossible to completely eliminate the bias that comes f...

feem

abusing bugs without reporting them is against the rules

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