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Relevant Manuel rules: Don’t use OOC information or knowledge that your character would not reasonably be aware of just to give yourself an advantage. In other words, don’t powergame or metagame. This mostly means things like rolling captain every round just so you can always do xenobio, or rushing ...

Please refrain from peanut posting.

To lend some context to this interaction, during the round in question the complainant in this case ahelped repeatedly about relatively minor if not outright IC issues and received a note to the effect of needing to cool down on ahelping (not from wubli)

As the appealer has withdrawn their appeal, locking.

As a procedural note, I will confirm the ban reason was for Harassment - specifically evading Discord's block system by the use of a bot. It's worth noting that this isn't just a "us" rule - Discord themselves list circumventing a block as a violation of their rules that can lead to a perm...

Technically this appeal isn't even valid for failing to use the template, as delaron noted. Locking for failure to follow the template.

Shadowflame909 wrote: Too bad there isn't a codified mass reset button that resets the station and all its inhabitants to round start spots, with round start IDs.

:squint:

Locking since this is appeal is too early.

Please re-appeal on November 15th 2020 at the earliest or contact the head administrators via Forum PM if you believe you have new evidence that would merit reconsideration.

If your sole (or main reasoning) for blamming someone is "I can see ghosts around them!" then you're an idiot and you fully deserve the ban you'll get when it turns out that person wasn't actually a wizard/antagonist/whatever I realize we treat the game with a modicum of implied unreality ...

This isn't the place for coder related appeals - I suggest forum PMing oranges & ninjanomnom, as it's their remit as headcoders.

Given the nature of feedback isn't a popularity poll or the like, I'd rather people contribute with their own thoughts and words rather then emptily parroting 3 words, but in terms of an easy to draw line in the sand, yes, emptyquoting is best avoided IMO. As for objective rule, this is technically ...

To be clear, I don't have issues with "I love [adminname]" (it's a bit empty and pointless, but it is feedback) - I have more issue with emptyquoting, especially when it starts being chain emptyquotes, because it's not really feedback - just "THIS"ing stuff is empty and we really...

the issue that arises is that allowing a "shitpost every now and then" blurs the line on what is acceptable in feedback in general - I'm sure we can both agree that feedback does serve a valuable role in allowing players to express praise or concerns and admins to receive feedback, and thi...

As there's not much written record of post approval approvals/denies and since I have a pretty decent history of moderating FNR, I would point out that, in my experience , while oranges posts in Policy Discussion have generally been fine (albeit there is very little that would get your posts canned ...

Per the board rules, I'll be locking this and throwing it in the trash. 5. A permaban may only be appealed once every 12 months unless stated otherwise by the banning admin or a headmin. Subsequent appeals will be automatically rejected and deleted, and may result in a forum ban if repeated. If you ...

also yada yada sextended was our 5th most popular mode ahead of several antag-toting modes at last poll, it's a bit old now but the principle stands, etc etc.

yeah the no paranoia mode is non-secret extended

At the time of last gamemode poll, wizard was our 4th most popular mode. Admittedly this poll is a little long in the tooth by this point so further polling may be required in the future, but as a personal anecdote wizard has generally had an incongruity between angry forum posts about it vs general...

imsxz wrote:Deleted posts on my admin feedback thread of people saying "i love imsxz". That is certainly feedback. Not cool!

https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=626

3.) This is not the place to discuss bans requests, appeals, administrators or other players;

Hows it feel to get flexed on by Nabski, CPTANT

The rules have generally been of two different opinions about this, because there are pros and cons to each. You'll note that just above the part you've quoted of the rules, under Silicon protections we have two rules that go like so: The occurrence of such an attempt should be adminhelped and then ...

if it's a ~specific door~ as in a single or a few doors it's probably not okay to OOC it since it hints at information such as where you are

if it's every door in the whole world then it's probably w/e so long as you don't use it as an excuse to OOC about other IC stuff

Personally I prefer the idea of successive headcoders who, alongside the host, pick their successors. It seems better for long term projects and fixes without having to worry about the short term pain from what is often a irrational playerbase. This is actually how it used to be. Fun fact: as he wa...

A large part of the community is plenty active on the feedback forums and github. It is also not like the current design philosophy much surpasses "if it's cool, bolt it on". The idea that the current approach is some super well thought out technocratic process while community is to incom...

deedubya wrote:What happens if you then decide to bypass this ban

The same thing as happens to anyone else who "bypasses" (tl: evades) a ban.

At risk of devolving into political philosophy debate - I'll point out that just going "muh democracy" is not a good argument, especially when you're missing a big aspect of democracy - informed voting. If the average player cannot reasonably be expected to know the intricacies of code mai...

On a less procedural note, elections for maintainers or head coders are generally a bad idea - code maintenance may and often will have to make changes that are unpopular due to technical, design or other reasons. Making the position predicated on popular votes creates a vested interest in only maki...

You may be interested in the following threads which sound like they're relevant to what you're posting about: https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=24525 https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=21934 I'm sure people are tired of hearing me say this but I will point o...

Stop necroing posts you dorks.

As it's been nearly a full week without any comment by headmin, I'm resolving this.

While I don't speak for the current headmins, I'm going to note that as a general precedent an admin's conduct when not acting as a administrator (i.e. shitposting in NTR Hut, speaking in discord in a non-official capacity, chatting in OOC etc) has generally not been subject to scrutiny more so then...

While I don't have any co-adminning experience with cynic (different servers, timezones, etc), I will note that if you try to make a point about their conduct/presence as an admin and then undercut it by going out of your way to do something you know aggravates them, your opinion rapidly becomes le...

While I don't have any co-adminning experience with cynic (different servers, timezones, etc), I will note that if you try to make a point about their conduct/presence as an admin and then undercut it by going out of your way to do something you know aggravates them, your opinion rapidly becomes les...

Looks resolved.

As another point, anyone being excessively and incessantly annoying on radio doesn't take much IC justification to slam full of shotgun rounds.

Hell if I see a single hulk spamming up radio I tend to give them a shot across the bows before hitting them with a BSA.

I took a day or so to consider this and mull over your response. While I appreciate your candour, it doesn't really dissuade me from the conclusion that you intended to evade when you connected with deedubya for the first time, 30 minutes after your appearance ban. I appreciate you may disagree with...

Headmins have enough busywork as is without making them personally close and resolve every single ban appeal - especially since a headmin can't just read the two sides in the thread and give a thumbs up or down - commenting as a headmin requires you to pull logs, question the banning admin/other adm...

While it's not actually relevant to the appeal itself, since I know certain people get antsy about the impression of "being banned for disagreeing with admin!!" - I'll note this ban was placed before any discussion in NTR Hut between myself and deedubya. That said, I'll break this down int...

A reminder that these threads are not for general discussion/giving your 2 cents. Please follow peanut policy as normal.

Technically speaking, the coder's permissions in the discord is an MSO matter, not a headmin one.

Regardless, if they need kick to properly moderate their channel, I don't see any good reason to remove it from them.

As the complainant has withdrawn their complaint, I'll close this for now and leave it a day or two in case anything changes.

Reminder that our precedent on pet policy is, and I vaguely quote: “if you do something with no benefit besides pissing people off (like killing ian) I will ban you if you adminhelp when someone kills you.” If we still use this precedent then coating the halls in puke makes you valid, not the guy k...

Don't pick the gimmick role if you don't want to play the gimmick. Breaking your oath should be something you consider as having implied weight to it - the best way to enforce this in a round-based game where an "oath" is largely meaningless is making it dangerous for the player's continue...

No one really needs to worry about "admin workload" other then the admins themselves. Believe me when I say that admins are more then capable of not doing administrative duties or ignore a ticket or two if they feel overloaded. This isn't a paid job where we have a moral or contractual obl...

I'm on Terry pretty much exclusively these days (sadly nuBagil gives me awful ping. I miss you Bagil ;-;) and I will say that I'm not a fan of dynamic mixing antagonist types wildly - including creating some "impossible to win" antagonists like blood brothers who need to escape the station...

Is there anything to love about /tg/ anymore? The coders are shit (medbay changes/drag changes). The admins are banbots. Most players are low rp TDM/RDM/Validhunting apes. The only good thing left is the drama. Last connected: Oct 03 You sure seem to still enjoy connecting to the servers for someon...

Bounty belatedly paid!

Full ban reason: As Asimov AI, requested Tyrant lawset literally six times during early round with no threats. Allowed an individual playing from the same IP address, who they were just warned not to metagame with in the prior round, into the upload to make the change after prompting them to change ...

Is there anything to love about /tg/ anymore? The coders are shit (medbay changes/drag changes). The admins are banbots. Most players are low rp TDM/RDM/Validhunting apes. The only good thing left is the drama. Last connected: Oct 03 You sure seem to still enjoy connecting to the servers for someon...

lmao if you think my ruling was controversial - it wasn't, and if you think that attacking someone just because you dislike them personally with suicide statistics is acceptable then I suggest you re-evaluate yourself as a person - you would be considered a dick in the vast majority of society, both...

Lol, exactly how many of your term's rule changes or policy rulings were put to poll, Nervere? Attack the point, and not the person. In other words, stop shitposting, forum mod. Edit: Additionally, if you're going to moderate posts, and ignore oranges shitposting on every single thread that would o...

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