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With regards to event runner, there's a lot of red tape with handing it out due to how admin permissions are set up. The minimum permission set to run events kinda crosses over with the minimum permission set to arbitrary permission escalation. So our starting point when giving people event runner i...

Non-rule-4 quasi-antags are definitely a thing. They can go for their objectives only and cannot do any antagonism outside of that scope. Obsessed is, of course, the classic poster child of this. Thief was also an example. RIP thief. Comms agent. Ashies. Regal ratte . I have to agree with Conrad tha...

It's a bit of a meme that comes up every election. The difficulty with player created events is that it needs someone to run them. Few admins are willing or, honestly, sometimes even capable of running them. Fewer players fall into this category still. That is the great barrier. Players can already ...

My take from the admin channels: My take: it's a limited time event. Are they playing in bad faith or within the spirit of the event? If bad faith, admin it. If spirit of the event, we don't need to be rulebots. Don't follow the rules strictly during Valentine, follow the story. Also you can simulta...

Something something campaign propaganda here. Admins don't have to get professional, they just have to be polite, neutral and non-confrontational. Too many players have learned to detest admin interactions because those admins have no personalities in tickets. In any ticket a player just wants to be...

Option one is: Work hard. Play hard. Sleep while you're dead. Option two is: Just take things steadily. I'm 35 and since I was in my early 20s I've learned a few programming languages, gotten a master's degree, changed careers like half a dozen times, picked up so many hobbies and gained so much kno...

vect0r wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 5:41 pm I hope if you get headmin you will start timberposting again, correct?

It's mandatory.

Poly is human. Everything Poly says is the objective truth.

Awho before you upload this law, because some admins will probably hold you directly accountable for when this goes wrong.

I uploaded it once before in the very distant past. It worked very well.

I had to run.

I wanna work with Dendy and our rules pages are too complex. Dendy's the kinda co-headmin that would be a perfect partner in crime for reworking/rewriting/reimagining the core server rules.

Phuzzy has been quite busy lately and hasn't posted on the Discord since December and hasn't been available for a couple of bans in the past 6 months. Vekter was kind enough to ping him in the admin channels. Hopefully we'll keep an eye on this and if Phuzzy's still busy someone will invoke the Doct...

Who? Game Master. Trainer. Discord Jannie. Keyholder. Maintainer. Feb 2022-Sep 2022 Host Vote Headmin ft. Mothblocks and Melbert Mar 2023-Sep 2023 Admin Vote Headmin ft. Kieth4 and Misdoubful. I bring necessary class and style to any headmin team, with a zesty blend of seriousness, sass and shitpos...

I wouldn't say annoying assistants are security job content. I'd say they're admin job content though. SS13 is set up so all sorts of players get into conflict in general. That natural conflict stemming from different people being thrown into a huge social experiment space station is the sec job con...

In the most general of general terms, greytiding is "technically" against the rules on MRP. Which rules, I hear you ask? Um... Kinda most of them. RP Rule 1 can be applied to LRP/NRP style tiding RP Rule 2 allows ignoring escalation against tiders RP Rule 3 empowers Heads of Staff and Sec ...

I moved houses in Jan and I'm currently neck deep in the first part of a few years of training to become an air traffic controller. Reaching the end of the very intensive introductory phase where I'm in the classroom 8:30am - 4:30pm Mon to Fri and studying another 3-4 hours at home after that. Suppo...

Plasma flood good. Killing people trying to fight the plasma flood bad, that's a direct and specific set of personal actions to maximise body count. What about an actually proper plasma flood with air alarms set and sabotaged doors for maximum spread? All that matters is whether the player took dir...

For mass station sabotage, final bodycount and round removal count is irrelevant. All that matters is whether the player took direct and specific personal actions to maximise the bodycount beyond merely setting up and executing the initial mass sabotage scenario. From examples given: Plasma flood go...

This doesn't need a ruling. I don't need a precedent to deal with players that make ahelps difficult by being unreasonably obstructive. I've done it before. I'll do it again. Making another ruling or rule just ties my hands to whatever arbitrary and poorly worded criteria are set. It should not come...

Cheshify wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2024 5:03 am Wonderful conduct from both player and admin. Entirely respectful discussion leading to a resolution. No need to feel sorry Epicgamer, sometimes you get it wrong and you'll never be in trouble for that.

Wrong, deheadminning you now.

Of course we all get those vibes. So why reinforce them? Should we not expect that minimum amount of effort from everyone? I don't think it would've been a complete waste of time to at least put the banning admin in the title. Sometimes we'll demand the person appealing fill out the template in a c...

They couldn't even be bothered to pull up the banning admin, even though it was in the screenshot. I just think they could've like at least said anything on the appeal itself. Much how admins have some chagrin when they percieve poor appeals, players have those exact same vibes when they percieve p...

And going into appeal to clarify recent rule changes is the life of a headmin. Admins shouldn't mald about players doing low-effort appeals when the appeal subject matter doesn't warrant high effort burnout-inducing walls of text. Sometimes the appeal is indeed as simple as "The rules say I can...

The player engaged with the ticket and the admin said "bored arguing go to the forums if you have anything more to say". That's fine and what we're trained to do when tickets are getting bogged down with technicalities. Rule 6 is there for a reason. I also don't think the player needed to ...

I like this appeal. There's no mega paragraphs or walls of text. The banning admin quickly moves out of the way to headmin review. The player understands what he did and why he did it, and from his interpretation of the rules he thinks he is right. His interpretation is just a touch overly literal....

Don't even play game, here only through tenure, provide $0.02 anyway

When the number of people participating real-time on Discord peaks over 10, the conversations are unfollowable. It was created to allow admins to discuss MRP policy by a headmin term that lacked tg MRP experience. It is best used in a "discuss this for 30 mins and ping us when you've figured it...

Oh yeah, I still fully stand by that ruling. Silipol even explicitly states silicons are not security and don't care about Space Law unless their laws require it. Admins should aggressively drive Silicurity players into the ground with ahelps requiring the silicon player to justify how they were fol...

Context behind roundstart malf being disabled is that it was a compromise to allow AIs to murderbone in MRP before going delta. This change was made when I rewrote the murderbone rules.

... - Roundstart borg slots have been taken up to 2 on all servers ... As part of this change: We generated the shared jobconfig.toml config file. This was modified to set Cyborg Spawn Positions to 2 and the relevant entry was uncommented. We deleted the old jobs.txt config files on all servers. We...

MAGA.

Make Antags Gaolable Again.

If I were to bring ban requests back, it would be as Unanswered Ahelps. If a player believes a rule was broken and ahelped it and the ahelp wasn't answered, they can come to the forums and request it be investigated. It's not perfect (end of round ahelps etc) but the goal should always be an ahelp f...

The only curse is that doing it irons out some grey matter wrinkles in parts of forum population. In peanuts players can have totally different discussions than in the appeal itself with the admin. They get challenged on different and more subjective parts of their ban and get a perspective that isn...

Seems incredibly IC issue to me. They were given access by the Cap. The Cap stated someone was getting access over comms. The Cap gave them a task to do. They didn't mesh well with an existing department member. Words were used (on the Roleplay server of all things) before eventually Might Makes Rig...

Regal rat is bound by its flavour text on LRP as a minor/side antag. That's probably buried in code, but I'm phoneposting at the moment and can't dig it up. Having all these neat roles players may have that create danger and conflict without turning them into a full rule 4 antagonist is neat and all...

It's fine for Vect0r to post here since they were involved, but additional parties tend to complicate appeals and I'm mindful this is """only""" a 12 hour ban. To that end, I've done some pruning/mod legwork with their reply and the OP, and request that any 3rd party co...

Awesome, thanks. Welcome back!

You're now unbanned on Terry and should be able to connect there.

You may need to wait for other servers to restart after their shifts end due to ban caching if you want to connect there.

Can you let me know if you connect to Terry okay so I can safely lock and resolve this appeal?

Just unban the guy. This is more effort than evading and more torturous to read than anything else.

Most evaders or whatever never even get as far as bothering to appeal. Throw the dog a bone.

We can just reban him again if he's clearly shitting us.

So here's the deal. You could (and should) have been permabanned long before I came along. You had repeated notes for the same behaviours and repeated daybans that some admins refused to actually escalate up. All those past decisions to note plus all of those short ban lengths were massively lenient...

This was a discretionary QC ban I placed as a headmin, so there was no major inciting event that caused it other than an admin request for me to look into your history and consider one. Gimme a day to mull this over, I'll need to go back and refresh myself on your note history and consider your word...

Blacklisted for being an unrelenting drain on admin team resources, and instead of appealing the blacklist as incorrect, he appeals the secondary permaban. It surprises me not that the player blacklisted for being a drain on admin resources received precisely no additional admin resources when appea...

Again for clarity, over the past year a majority of the blacklist appeals have been handled by me, including some when I wasn't a headmin. Seren Highwater/Slurge - https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=683915#p683915 - May 2023, instantly denied/closed by Timberpoes with no additional inform...

I found a HTML injection exploit and made it get feexed.

That was me testing replication steps and breaking the forums in the process.

Is now feexed.

i'd be worried too if the headmin team were to comb through an entire discord server's messages just to find dirt, & then when you try to appeal it, the appeal is instantly hidden from the public eye & they say it is all disinformation & lies & don't say anything about why that is g...

This is the best thread. Don't believe Rave's propaganda.

... gigantic post I know you put a decent amount of effort into this, but I'd like to bring us back on-topic. This isn't meant out of disrespect for you- I'm worried I may fall victim to the same rules discussed in that appeal, and I'd rather not. It's cool, you're not posting in bad faith specific...

Please don't stop roberticists from saying fuck. Their job is making roberts. Clamp down on how people use roberts, totally fine and within the existing rules. Validhunt McGee having a robert is less of an issue if they have a good IC reason to have requisitioned a robert from robertics. And if robe...

This is the only part I'm going to respond to, because it's the only part I care about addressing. What you did with that ban was far and beyond what an unbiased individual should have been doing, and has already been heavily discussed. I'm pretty sure we have an archive on the forums if you really...

I'm actually the final sequel of the 1980 rebuild, 1984.0 + 1.01 Thrice Upon A Blacklist

Honestly, player concerns are irrelevant. If MSO wanted to reveal any evidence of why he placed them on the blacklist, he can. Until MSO does that, the rest of us can genuinely pound sand. The headmins aren't leaking any evidence, obviously. And I'm fine with that. Hell, I even prefer it. The fastes...

I was told that I was misbehaving, was a problem child and and had to sit down and concentrate or I'd fail school. I failed school, got life experience working for a few years, learned to overcome and then actually apply my mental health problems for my own empowerment, went to university and got a ...

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