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I followed up internally and I'll quote an ancient GM: Reading wgw over comms would likely not have gotten someone banned unless they were really spamming it and interrupting the game for everyone else (although even then the encouragement was for the crew to deal with it) But general smut/porn woul...

Datriux is long since retired. I'll investigate this in their place. For reference, your PDA logs for the shift: https://tgstation13.org/parsed-logs/basil/data/logs/2018/03/30/round-85790/pda.txt Line 61: [22:38:25]PDA: Bytube/(Heedal) (PDA: lawyer PDA) sent "There comes a point in every person...

Side note, what about non-antag chaplains who use the soul stone on the first corpse they come across? Stance in 2017: Soulstoned someone who didn't want to be soulstoned as nonantag chaplain. Said they didn't know how it worked and it would give a prompt if they wanted to be sharded. Remove in a f...

Impulse control. It's got what ban appeals crave.

⁨Case #749 | Ban
Reason: Posted chemistry instructions they claim create an illegal substance. Appeal on the forums after 2 weeks.
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Gwyn#8982 (153570003092766720)

One of our other admemes has pinged Gwyn on the Discord to let them know this is their ban.

Forcing someone to become a borg when they don't want to be one is generally considered forceborging. Forcing someone to be a borg is considered equivalent to round removal. It is not round removal, but if you can't validly round remove someone then you probably can't validly borg them without their...

Administrately we usually approach forceborging as equivalent to round removal. If you're not valid to round remove them, you're not valid to forceborg them.

Consensual borging is fine. Getting consent via MMI is trivial and MMI is a pre-requisite to borging.

Fulp don't actually give vouches.

Last term everyone I didn't care about I told to go to Fulp to get a vouch.

Ordinarily I'd get indignant at capricious use of host powers. However, politics channel. So I'm feeling exceptionally conflicted between my general preference for natural justice and my enjoyment of schadenfreude.

Double post but the fact we have a selection process for DJs and that MSO/Pkp manages forum mods should also tell you that there is a filter beyond which some admins do not pass for compatibility.

Community moderation is very different to game moderation due to its persistent nature. Discord has its own onboarding with bots, guides and different ways of working. Forum moderation is the same. GMs have forum mod permissions because they're expected to know the various ways of working as former ...

The onus can't be in the headmins as long as game admins are moving appeals to resolved instead of headmins. 2 of the appeals Vekter just moved to resolved didn't have any mention to the player they could request headmin review (but one was supposedly resolved over Discord?) when they were rejeceted...

Two main ways I tend to see appeals play out: During last term, I was reading every appeal. I involved myself in a lot of appeals. I tried to get appeals resolved without having to resort to headmin rulings where possible, through guiding admins and players through the motions of posting logs and fi...

Yeah. Creative workplace death doesn't go as far as permitting round removal when escalation otherwise wouldn't permit it. Same applies to the chef gibbing people, or the chap cremating people. Genuinely defending your workplace lets you jump to lethal faster, but doesn't let you jump straight to ro...

Also I delete peanuts and tell players to repost their thoughts in the peanut all the time. I kept my commentary here and made sure any posting in the appeal was limited to policy clarifications and logs without commentary.

I no longer have the burden of headmin so I'm more free to cause chaos here.

The alternative to Asimov++ silicons getting talked to for being aware of consensual harm but not understanding it due to inexperience, is silicons getting talked to for not understanding players can consent to harm as laid out in silicon policy. That is just a flaw in people playing silicons instea...

Sorry Gung, I had to axe your post in the appeal as peanut. It was a somewhat player-focused take on round removal that lacked a perspective into the kind of battles the admin team has with players that take steps to prevent revival that fall short of making it literally impossible a person can be r...

[Edit] I deleted a post from CMDR_Gungnir detailing their understanding of what round removal is. It was not a complete understanding of what the admin team often considers round removal, and I have deleted it in favour of a more detailed explanation below along with a log dump to illustrate some of...

Giving event antags to other players whom are admins is an optics nightmare, even when done innocently. If I ever did a "do random thing, get random antag" event I always thought twice before selecting an admin. Gibbing the killer of your event antag doubles the optics nightmare. There is ...

Seriously, do you guys want every single thread with some fucklenuts going "HEY UMMM YOU CAN ASK FOR HEADMIN REVIEW" just so headmins can say they agree, when if they don't stop the admin they obviously agree? Varying amounts of discussion happens about a ban between admins when it's happ...

As per silipol: The occurrence of any of the following should be adminhelped and then disregarded as violations of Server Rule 1 1. Declaring silicons as rogue over inability or unwillingness to follow invalid or conflicting orders. 2. As a nonantagonist, killing or detonating silicons in the presen...

The intent wasn't to reduce the stress or burden of silicon policy. It was to make things more obvious ingame and reduce the need to have the wiki open 24/7 when playing as or with cyborgs. SS13 is a game about incomplete information and trying your best despite not knowing all the facts. Unrustle t...

Geez. This turned into even more of a dumpster fire.

Be excellent to each other, dudes.

Full ban reason: As a non-antagonist botanist, released killer-tomatos in the halls leading to the crit/deaths of roughly four people. When questioned, stated that they did it for fun. Originally supposed to be a two day ban for self-antagonism & grief, player instead requested a permaban. Feel ...

sinfulbliss wrote: ↑Wed Oct 26, 2022 9:27 pm That's super cool but

What's your opinion on 9/11?

With rice: 10/11.

This was eventually resolved as a "banned from TGCM Discord" issue. Considering all the extra posts in this appeal, instead of moving this I would simply invite you to re-appeal on this https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewforum.php?f=70 subforum where TGMC staff will look into stuff for you....

Sometimes for minor stuff we'll let things slide. A certain element of pragmatism should be expected when moderating discussions. However, the approach to their posts went as close as possible to calling you a pedophile (or pedophile enabler, or saying you were okay with pedophillia, or participated...

This may be a trash fire. But id REALLY appreciate if didn't just delete everything me and easy2see had just said. While it may be unrelated, it wasn't worth deleting. The call to delete was taken by Rave. Although I absolutely would have deleted those posts too in this case, I was just "busy&...

This is turning into a trash fire. Either categorically prove they fall under any of the textbook dictionary or legal definitions of being a pedophile, in private, to the headmin team and/or MSO, or practice shutting up. Do not call others pedophiles or state they participate in pedophile communitie...

Tits and willys.

Thanks for your reply monster. I've soft deleted it because it went into a bit too much detail about how some of our ban systems work. Not that these are secret details since anyone that can read code can dive it. Still, better not to put ideas in people's heads. However, admins can all still read s...

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=26520&p=557923 was the topic of discussion. May be good to review that thread, since we discussed it outside of Github.

Approved the edit. Should be good to go, now.

I refactored it back in https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/pull/58186/files The playtime tracking system requests that info at the `/mob/living` level. Player controlling silicon and AI mobs will have their playtime accordingly adjusted for those roles as a result. So you can build up sillycone ...

Welcome to the players club Rules will be enforced as if this was a hybrid between general chat and off topic for now, This will get refined in due time. Global Forum Rules [Updated 21/08/21] Global Forum Rules: When in doubt about any of these rules, ask the mods. 6. We are here to have fun, if yo...

As a side note, the main tgstation13.org page has this invite link:

https://discord.com/invite/VW9ZEwc

I'll poke someone to see if we can generate an alternative invite link for you to try. By all accounts I can't see that you are currently banned. I could just be having a special moment though

There's no record of you being banned from our server or having posted in our server from that ID. No ban matches, nothing in the search, no warnings recorded on our Discord moderation tools. Either you had another Discord account at the time or you're not actually banned anymore? What is the error ...

One of our team seems to vaguely recall banning you, quote: Ah right its coming back to me I think they posted a meme about the lgbt community being pedophiles I've also briefly looked into this and I can't find a ban linked to the provided Discord account. Filtering for it doesn't bring up any matc...

Unlocking antagonistic reasons to escalate against and kill others was a key goal. By being an antagonist you should be able to roleplay as someone nefarious or genuinely evil. You should be able to do nefarious and evil things. The problem with redefining murderbone to not mean murderbone, is that ...

murderbone rules need a rewrite because the way its written is bad it doesnt even let people kill outside of objec- i mean it doesnt let you sabo- i mean it doesnt let you bom- It was written to address many of the things that people want a rewrite for, the problem has always been enforcement (else...

Policy is inherently slow. Any disagreements make it even slower. Timezones slow discussion down. Perfectionism makes everything yet slower still. For example, I had the votes passed internally to implement the rebuild of RP restrictions, however it honestly needed the mass sabotage alongside it. An...

The old note by aarontheidiot has been removed, and has been replaced with the following no-severity/positive note documenting: Has been allowed to use "Imitates-the-Lizards" as a name for a human or felinid, as long as they play the role appropriately to that name. This is a combined RP p...

I am placing it on the record that I feel aarontheidiot used their discretion appropriately . I am not them. My use of discretion is going to manfiest differently to theirs. We have a few historical naming policy handwaives that are similar to yours that have been highlighted in my research. Thanks...

A-a-Ron is no longer an admeme, so I'll latch onto this since I'm already that deep in naming policy already from the previously mentioned appeal. You are correct in that it absolutely does not mesh with Firstname Lastname from Rule 3. However, I'm going to crowdsource a few opinions as to if a &quo...

This is in the hands of the current term to tweak to perfection since my term never actually implemented it (we voted yes, but I was too perfectionist and delayed despite that since I didn't like the mass sabotage part's wording), https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=31528 would po...

Gotta go fast.

TheFinalPotato wrote: ↑Sun Oct 09, 2022 9:33 pm Also dear everyone else, you guys are cocoposting again, don't cocopost. The manuelcord did it like a year back and it was fucking stupid. There's more then one headmin.

All I see are 3 admins stood on eachothers' shoulders in a trenchcoat.

I'm gonna go on a bit of a drunken rant here. So fuck it. I'm more than a little frustrated with the final approch, and I'm going to vocalise a few too many words why... So I'm gonna write a wall, and tgstation is gonna pay for that wall. Trump would be proud. I really enjoy the freedom to speak out...

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