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confused rock wrote:I dont think it can attract furries
First off itd be degenerates/neckbeards/weebs/whatevers, and I think they’re already here

still a meaningless statement

I think it allows the degenerates/weebs to show off as if it were promoted by cats existing, though I guess that isnt too different. I cant think of a reason for it to exist byond to give them a platform for nya nya :3 and ignoring their job to run around in a skirt regardless of gender or go nude. As I cant think of anything else cats add I do not like them.(Violently hate them)

not everything needs an explicit reason to exist, and if it makes other people happy why do you give a shit

Youve yet to hear a legitimate reason to remove them, and I’ve yet to hear a legitimate reason to keep them that my brain can process.

"i hate them" is not a valid reason and if they don't do their jobs that's a different matter entirely, just because you have thin skin about some people saying nya means nothing

thot_slayer wrote:can you please break up your quotes holy shit it's been triggering me for months now

Slignerd wrote:The same benefit as hairstyles, as opposed to everyone spawning bald.

Cosmetic customization choices that player are able to enjoy.

cedarbridge wrote:A character's race is important to RP features like background and motivation.

obscolene wrote:

cedarbridge wrote:A character's race is important to RP features like background and motivation.

Please stop pretending that

cedarbridge wrote:

obscolene wrote:

cedarbridge wrote:A character's race is important to RP features like background and motivation.

Please stop pretending that

Why are you going into this in bad faith? If you're going to pretend that an argument isn't made because you prefer your strawman then don't bother asking and just post your strawman.

cedarbridge wrote:You also imply that race has no impact on background and motivation but provide no evidence to back up your claim. Were your assertion true, Spock would have been the same character and developed in the same way with the same depth had he just been a "normal" human.

kevinz000 wrote:why do permabanned players and people who barely if ever connect still try to change the game to their liking with whiny forum posts is it that hard to step away?

Togopal wrote:

kevinz000 wrote:why do permabanned players and people who barely if ever connect still try to change the game to their liking with whiny forum posts is it that hard to step away?

They have a point tho

Togopal wrote:

kevinz000 wrote:why do permabanned players and people who barely if ever connect still try to change the game to their liking with whiny forum posts is it that hard to step away?

They have a point tho

Qbopper wrote:should probably add that i don't actually give a shit if cats are removed or not

confused rock wrote:Plus cats can be confusing for the AI.

Rustledjimm wrote:

Togopal wrote:

kevinz000 wrote:why do permabanned players and people who barely if ever connect still try to change the game to their liking with whiny forum posts is it that hard to step away?

They have a point tho

Not really. This has been gone over so many times and what they keep spouting is not a valid point on /tg/.

obscolene wrote:Because I know you're intelligent enough to come to the conclusion that people don't play as cats for any reason other than for the sake of playing a catperson. I'd hope you realize this fact.

Maybe on other servers, people use the catperson race to actively create character background and roleplay, and I'm sure it could be as viable as whatever wacky alien races they have. However, I believe that on /tg/, this is not the case at all.

A strawman for a strawman, I suppose. I did not claim that race has no impact, I claimed that catpeople in specific have no impact. There's a difference between Spock and Snowy McFlake #320, because one of their races has pages upon pages of backstory and purpose to their existence -- the other one is a human but with a cat ears and tail. Literally nothing else. No reason at all for existing other than, "I like anime, lol."

Slignerd wrote:

confused rock wrote:Plus cats can be confusing for the AI.

They're not, the policy is clear on catpeople being nonhuman and most players are well-aware of that.

confused rock wrote:

Slignerd wrote:

confused rock wrote:Plus cats can be confusing for the AI.

They're not, the policy is clear on catpeople being nonhuman and most players are well-aware of that.

Thats the worst part. Cat ears arent easy to spot and cats sound like humans. What if a cat loses its ears and tail? If a lizard diguises it has to stay silent unless it gets a tongue transplant and at easiest wear a firesuit with balaclava for the tail. Cat is “whoops, he was wearing a hat and looking from the wrong angle”

confused rock wrote:

Qbopper wrote:should probably add that i don't actually give a shit if cats are removed or not

You just wrote super fucking hard and are saying you dont care?

i don't care if they get removed or not but i'm going to call out retarded arguments for being retarded, this is literally "i don't like them"

How is them not doint their job another issue entirely if it promotes it? I still havent heard you say why keep them besides “why not stop being salty”

how does it promote it? cat/lizard players not doing their jobs to shitpost is a player issue and not related to the role, there's nothing inherent about cats/lizards that makes you ignore your job

i still haven't heard a reason to remove them beyond "i hate cats"

Plus cats can be confusing for the AI.

lol

Togopal wrote:

Rustledjimm wrote:

Togopal wrote:

kevinz000 wrote:why do permabanned players and people who barely if ever connect still try to change the game to their liking with whiny forum posts is it that hard to step away?

They have a point tho

Not really. This has been gone over so many times and what they keep spouting is not a valid point on /tg/.

Actually it is a valid point

confused rock wrote:Local man that isnt mad or thin skinned calls an argument retarded twice in the same sentence, thinks it isnt particularly common for assistants to run around saying viva rather than doing something useful compared to other crewmembers.

cedarbridge wrote:

confused rock wrote:Thats the worst part. Cat ears arent easy to spot and cats sound like humans. What if a cat loses its ears and tail? If a lizard diguises it has to stay silent unless it gets a tongue transplant and at easiest wear a firesuit with balaclava for the tail. Cat is “whoops, he was wearing a hat and looking from the wrong angle”

I'm not seeing an issue here. SS13 is not a perfect information game and shouldn't be.

cedarbridge wrote:

confused rock wrote:

Slignerd wrote:

confused rock wrote:Plus cats can be confusing for the AI.

They're not, the policy is clear on catpeople being nonhuman and most players are well-aware of that.

Thats the worst part. Cat ears arent easy to spot and cats sound like humans. What if a cat loses its ears and tail? If a lizard diguises it has to stay silent unless it gets a tongue transplant and at easiest wear a firesuit with balaclava for the tail. Cat is “whoops, he was wearing a hat and looking from the wrong angle”

I'm not seeing an issue here. SS13 is not a perfect information game and shouldn't be.

confused rock wrote:Talking inconsistency since cats are organs now, I can imagine people ahelping the AI beating the cat in the hat since it looks human. Cat getting ears removed is human harm if they got no tail possibly? Revs already a clusterfuck for example, dont need more confusion with all this.

confused rock wrote:You’re coming up with non existent mechanics then, only things cats do special is get hearing damage and maybe the ai will listen to them if confused.

FantasticFwoosh wrote:

confused rock wrote:You’re coming up with non existent mechanics then, only things cats do special is get hearing damage and maybe the ai will listen to them if confused.

When cat organs are removed, they become AI legal humans straight up. In my next example arbitarily because they are already nonhuman, it is like saying that removing the legs from a lizard now makes them a "Snake" set to a different series of game rules (besides the obvious you have no legs & arms) despite being lizard species. Lazy, pointless and only a set of certain players are going to play snakes anyway and slither around *booping* people and hissing running off the back of lizard code.



This is a image of catperson of the most unacceptable but undeniable literal definition attempting to commit human harm for the AI to be able to act in response without question. Its all old ground i've talked about already but its perfectly legal as a antagonist to set AI laws to forcibly convert all catpeople on the station back into humans with borg conducted surgery if admins aren't going to intervene with a rule 0 (which really shows a lot) in which case sympathetic people might help them convert back

I have other things to do urgh, just cut the chase and settle this thread please, stop pulling me back by bumping it unless you actually have something meaningful to say i really don't want to see this again.

captain sawrge wrote:Seek help

cedarbridge wrote:Seek help

confused rock wrote:Should I relearn to code to add snakes as a species?

cedarbridge wrote:

captain sawrge wrote:Seek help

Wyzack wrote:Literally the best part of catpeople on tg is reading all the posts of cat haters and imagining them sitting at their computers smashing the keys on their keyboards SO HARD while they type another time honored post about how other people liking a thing they dont like (in many cases for a game they no longer play) with their faces all red and screwed up in a look of constant pent-up anus frustration. It never gets old.

The ultimate "stop liking what i dont like NOW"

Kor wrote:theunlovedrock

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obscolene

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fantasticfwoosh

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Wyzack wrote:Literally the best part of catpeople on tg is reading all the posts of cat haters and imagining them sitting at their computers smashing the keys on their keyboards SO HARD while they type another time honored post about how other people liking a thing they dont like (in many cases for a game they no longer play) with their faces all red and screwed up in a look of constant pent-up anus frustration. It never gets old.

The ultimate "stop liking what i dont like NOW"

Kor wrote:theunlovedrock

Last seen: 2017-06-21 18:12:35

obscolene

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fantasticfwoosh

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Kor wrote:I think whether or not someone is part of the community is relevant to a discussion largely about whether we're attracting the wrong people to the community.

Catering to people who have loudly and publicly quit or are permabanned and have no intention of playing the game either way seems like a losing proposition.

It takes enough time and effort to listen to and engage and debate and compromise with people who are actively involved and contributing (like you, that is why I respond with real posts to you) without also trying to please people who have no stake in things except to argue for fun.

obscolene wrote:

Kor wrote:I think whether or not someone is part of the community is relevant to a discussion largely about whether we're attracting the wrong people to the community.

Catering to people who have loudly and publicly quit or are permabanned and have no intention of playing the game either way seems like a losing proposition.

It takes enough time and effort to listen to and engage and debate and compromise with people who are actively involved and contributing (like you, that is why I respond with real posts to you) without also trying to please people who have no stake in things except to argue for fun.

So you mean if I drive off the people who disagree with me, I can discredit their opinions entirely because they left?

captain sawrge wrote:

obscolene wrote:

Kor wrote:I think whether or not someone is part of the community is relevant to a discussion largely about whether we're attracting the wrong people to the community.

Catering to people who have loudly and publicly quit or are permabanned and have no intention of playing the game either way seems like a losing proposition.

It takes enough time and effort to listen to and engage and debate and compromise with people who are actively involved and contributing (like you, that is why I respond with real posts to you) without also trying to please people who have no stake in things except to argue for fun.

So you mean if I drive off the people who disagree with me, I can discredit their opinions entirely because they left?

Ye

thot_slayer wrote:

Kor wrote:theunlovedrock

Last seen: 2017-06-21 18:12:35

obscolene

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fantasticfwoosh

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you shouldn't make these posts because it just makes you seem like you don't have any other argument

confused rock wrote:Why should we try to improve our restauraunt? why bother cleaning up the pile of liquid shit on the wall? There's no customers who come in for it to effect anyway.

captain sawrge wrote:

confused rock wrote:Why should we try to improve our restauraunt? why bother cleaning up the pile of liquid shit on the wall? There's no customers who come in for it to effect anyway.

...?