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Re: Supermatter not reporting to common until emergency poin
Posted: Wed May 17, 2017 11:35 pm
by ohnopigeons
Bottom post of the previous page:
rabbit wrote:what's the tldr?
Fact: The SM frequently delaminates
Viewpoint A: The SM frequently delaminating is bad, not just for engineering but for all the players on the station and the game, so solutions are needed to make this less likely (this is the premise of this thread)
Viewpoint B: Frequent SM delaminations are a player problem, therefore engineering frequently turning into a giant hole to space is an acceptable, if not desirable, outcome and part of the game
Under viewpoint A: Frequent delaminations are a result of the inherent atmos-nature of the engine mechanics and not-atmos-tech playerbase inability to operate atmos. Therefore, for station engineers, the main engine should not be the SM, and should be replaced by something else entirely if not the singulo/tesla. The topic suggestion works but is bad from a game design standpoint because it
relies on moonlighting from not-engineers for the engineering engine to operate correctly.
Under viewpoint B: Just come to terms with the SM delaminating frequently and tell anyone who don't like the SM delaminating to get over it. The topic suggestion is not needed in the first place, and is still bad for the aforementioned reasons.
Re: Supermatter not reporting to common until emergency poin
Posted: Wed May 17, 2017 11:36 pm
by Tokiko2
Remove the supermatter and replace it with a giant RTG array.
Advantages:
Engineers no longer need to stay locked up in their department and can actually fix and build stuff.
Engineers don't need to learn atmos. Who the hell likes atmos? Just follow goons example and remove it completely.
The RTG as an engine represents the /tg/station playerbase much better than a singulo or supermatter.
Re: Supermatter not reporting to common until emergency poin
Posted: Wed May 17, 2017 11:39 pm
by ohnopigeons
Oranges wrote:rude words
Yes okay orange fruit thank you for your contribution
Re: Supermatter not reporting to common until emergency poin
Posted: Wed May 17, 2017 11:49 pm
by Lazengann
Engines exist almost solely for antags to have a way to end the round so frequent engine failure is normal
Re: Supermatter not reporting to common until emergency poin
Posted: Wed May 17, 2017 11:56 pm
by ohnopigeons
Lazengann wrote:Engines exist almost solely for antags to have a way to end the round so frequent engine failure is normal
Yeah okay
this is a player problem.
Re: Supermatter not reporting to common until emergency poin
Posted: Wed May 17, 2017 11:57 pm
by Lazengann
How's it a problem
Re: Supermatter not reporting to common until emergency poin
Posted: Thu May 18, 2017 12:07 am
by Togopal
Why cant all 3 engines be optional I just want mommy and daddy to stop fighting =(
Re: Supermatter not reporting to common until emergency poin
Posted: Thu May 18, 2017 8:36 am
by kevinz000
releasing singulo/tesla is really easy btw.
Re: Supermatter not reporting to common until emergency poin
Posted: Thu May 18, 2017 8:59 am
by ohnopigeons
kevinz000 wrote:releasing singulo/tesla is really easy btw.
However easy it may be it doesn't happen,
for various reasons. In all of the SM delaminations in the past 2 months, I've only seen it happen once or twice. And therefore this is not relevant to the discussion in case I wasn't making that clear enough.