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Re: Lizard species is the worst new feature to be added to t

Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2014 5:06 pm
by Cipher3

Bottom post of the previous page:

Ezel wrote:
Steelpoint wrote:All I know about the Vox is that they are antagonists on Baystation or somewhere.

I fail to see any real negative in the addition of non-human races as playable characters. If we are concerned about the de-emphasis on humans we can simply introduce restrictions on certain role to humans only, such as my earlier suggestion on forcing Sec/Command to be human only.
^official bay station
>unofficial bay station servers it's a choosable race for rp
>vox mode vox crewmembers + vox raiders =rip vox
That's why you can't make things available like as a example there is a wizard job and be like wizard in a wizard round rip you
Spoiler:
Why do you never have punctuation?
By unofficial you mean knockoff servers using Baycode. And that's literally entirely irrelevant. What you're saying is that Lizardpeople are going to lead to Vox races and Vox gamemode and that's gonna get non-antag Vox killed and then making a comparison to a station wizard job (wut) and thusly we should not have lizardpeople because this could end up like when antags are the same species as nonantags? There's literally no logical chain of progression in Lizardpeople = a wizard station job that gets lynched every wizard round.

Re: Lizard species is the worst new feature to be added to t

Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2014 6:16 pm
by cedarbridge
Cipher3 wrote:
Ezel wrote:
Steelpoint wrote:All I know about the Vox is that they are antagonists on Baystation or somewhere.

I fail to see any real negative in the addition of non-human races as playable characters. If we are concerned about the de-emphasis on humans we can simply introduce restrictions on certain role to humans only, such as my earlier suggestion on forcing Sec/Command to be human only.
^official bay station
>unofficial bay station servers it's a choosable race for rp
>vox mode vox crewmembers + vox raiders =rip vox
That's why you can't make things available like as a example there is a wizard job and be like wizard in a wizard round rip you
Spoiler:
Why do you never have punctuation?
By unofficial you mean knockoff servers using Baycode. And that's literally entirely irrelevant. What you're saying is that Lizardpeople are going to lead to Vox races and Vox gamemode and that's gonna get non-antag Vox killed and then making a comparison to a station wizard job (wut) and thusly we should not have lizardpeople because this could end up like when antags are the same species as nonantags? There's literally no logical chain of progression in Lizardpeople = a wizard station job that gets lynched every wizard round.
Never not lynch lizards apparently. v0v

Re: Lizard species is the worst new feature to be added to t

Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2014 6:19 pm
by Mandurrrh
Incoming wrote:
Incomptinence wrote:I would assume no one has done dwarfs because needing new sprites for clothes is a bit hefty.
Yeah anything that requires a sprite of a different height would require a simply hideous amount of sprite work, it'd be akin to asking for fatsprites back.
Spriting helps my ADHD and OCD. I'd be down for a ton of sprite work.

Re: Lizard species is the worst new feature to be added to t

Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2014 6:23 pm
by Mandurrrh
Steelpoint wrote:All I know about the Vox is that they are antagonists on Baystation or somewhere.

I fail to see any real negative in the addition of non-human races as playable characters. If we are concerned about the de-emphasis on humans we can simply introduce restrictions on certain role to humans only, such as my earlier suggestion on forcing Sec/Command to be human only.
Vox are bird people on vg. They role play their species well though and it's probably the only rp on that server. They talk in character. Respond to certain music and techno gods. And enjoy shiny things. They are also creepy and gross.

Re: Lizard species is the worst new feature to be added to t

Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2014 6:32 pm
by cedarbridge
Mandurrrh wrote:
Steelpoint wrote:All I know about the Vox is that they are antagonists on Baystation or somewhere.

I fail to see any real negative in the addition of non-human races as playable characters. If we are concerned about the de-emphasis on humans we can simply introduce restrictions on certain role to humans only, such as my earlier suggestion on forcing Sec/Command to be human only.
Vox are bird people on vg. They role play their species well though and it's probably the only rp on that server. They talk in character. Respond to certain music and techno gods. And enjoy shiny things. They are also creepy and gross.
Are we talking about /vg/ players or the birds?

Re: Lizard species is the worst new feature to be added to t

Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2014 6:34 pm
by Mandurrrh
cedarbridge wrote:
Mandurrrh wrote:
Steelpoint wrote:All I know about the Vox is that they are antagonists on Baystation or somewhere.

I fail to see any real negative in the addition of non-human races as playable characters. If we are concerned about the de-emphasis on humans we can simply introduce restrictions on certain role to humans only, such as my earlier suggestion on forcing Sec/Command to be human only.
Vox are bird people on vg. They role play their species well though and it's probably the only rp on that server. They talk in character. Respond to certain music and techno gods. And enjoy shiny things. They are also creepy and gross.
Are we talking about /vg/ players or the birds?
The birds.

Re: Lizard species is the worst new feature to be added to t

Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2014 7:05 pm
by Ezel
Mandurrrh wrote:
cedarbridge wrote:
Mandurrrh wrote:
Steelpoint wrote:All I know about the Vox is that they are antagonists on Baystation or somewhere.

I fail to see any real negative in the addition of non-human races as playable characters. If we are concerned about the de-emphasis on humans we can simply introduce restrictions on certain role to humans only, such as my earlier suggestion on forcing Sec/Command to be human only.
Vox are bird people on vg. They role play their species well though and it's probably the only rp on that server. They talk in character. Respond to certain music and techno gods. And enjoy shiny things. They are also creepy and gross.
Are we talking about /vg/ players or the birds?
The birds.
the birds that doesnt breath oxygen

Re: Lizard species is the worst new feature to be added to t

Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2014 7:23 pm
by cedarbridge
Mandurrrh wrote:
cedarbridge wrote:
Mandurrrh wrote:
Steelpoint wrote:All I know about the Vox is that they are antagonists on Baystation or somewhere.

I fail to see any real negative in the addition of non-human races as playable characters. If we are concerned about the de-emphasis on humans we can simply introduce restrictions on certain role to humans only, such as my earlier suggestion on forcing Sec/Command to be human only.
Vox are bird people on vg. They role play their species well though and it's probably the only rp on that server. They talk in character. Respond to certain music and techno gods. And enjoy shiny things. They are also creepy and gross.
Are we talking about /vg/ players or the birds?
The birds.
You lost me.

Re: Lizard species is the worst new feature to be added to t

Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2014 7:25 pm
by Mandurrrh
cedarbridge wrote: You lost me.
Fallen soldier

Re: Lizard species is the worst new feature to be added to t

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 4:21 am
by Saegrimr
Mandurrrh wrote:They are also creepy and gross.
Says the species that inhales one of the most corrosive gasses we know of to survive.

Re: Lizard species is the worst new feature to be added to t

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 6:03 am
by Ezel
Saegrimr wrote:
Mandurrrh wrote:They are also creepy and gross.
Says the species that inhales one of the most corrosive gasses we know of to survive.
the gas wheres a limited supply of

Re: Lizard species is the worst new feature to be added to t

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2014 7:55 pm
by Lumbermancer
It affects the simplicity of /tg/ setting, increasing the autism levels.

Re: Lizard species is the worst new feature to be added to t

Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 6:15 pm
by Antimattercarp
Cipher3 wrote:
Lumbermancer wrote:Remove Lizard, you say it's cosmetic now, but it's one step closer to some bullshit like Vox. Lizards should be as they were, available to people at the discretion of badmins. Janitor preferred.
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/slippery-slope
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/the-fallacy-fallacy

Re: Lizard species is the worst new feature to be added to t

Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 6:58 pm
by cedarbridge
Antimattercarp wrote:
Cipher3 wrote:
Lumbermancer wrote:Remove Lizard, you say it's cosmetic now, but it's one step closer to some bullshit like Vox. Lizards should be as they were, available to people at the discretion of badmins. Janitor preferred.
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/slippery-slope
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/the-fallacy-fallacy
As clever as that is, you're more guilty than he is. His usage actually has context.

Re: Lizard species is the worst new feature to be added to t

Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 8:03 pm
by Ricotez
cedarbridge wrote:
Antimattercarp wrote:
Cipher3 wrote:
Lumbermancer wrote:Remove Lizard, you say it's cosmetic now, but it's one step closer to some bullshit like Vox. Lizards should be as they were, available to people at the discretion of badmins. Janitor preferred.
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/slippery-slope
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/the-fallacy-fallacy
As clever as that is, you're more guilty than he is. His usage actually has context.
Not to mention that the fallacy fallacy means you disregard someone's entire argument because of a single fallacy, while in this case your entire argument was a single fallacy.

Re: Lizard species is the worst new feature to be added to t

Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2014 9:28 pm
by Antimattercarp
Ricotez wrote:
cedarbridge wrote:
Antimattercarp wrote:
Cipher3 wrote:
Lumbermancer wrote:Remove Lizard, you say it's cosmetic now, but it's one step closer to some bullshit like Vox. Lizards should be as they were, available to people at the discretion of badmins. Janitor preferred.
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/slippery-slope
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/the-fallacy-fallacy
As clever as that is, you're more guilty than he is. His usage actually has context.
Not to mention that the fallacy fallacy means you disregard someone's entire argument because of a single fallacy, while in this case your entire argument was a single fallacy.
Alas His argument in that post is that ricotez had a fallacy in his argument consisted of, that link and "^^^This", I was forced to remind him that calling out a fallacy as a argument is in fact a fallacy in it's self. I also like being clever and am in favor of the addition of the lizardmen

Re: Lizard species is the worst new feature to be added to t

Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2014 10:10 pm
by Cipher3
No, calling out one point among many of an argument as a fallacy and thus dismissing the entire argument is the fallacy fallacy. His entire argument was three sentences: 1: Slippery slope fallacy. 2: Opinion. 3: Detail on the previous opinion.

So it wasn't the fallacy fallacy - rather you were leaping to a conclusion with an intent to provide clever input. And I also don't mind lizardpeople.

Re: Lizard species is the worst new feature to be added to t

Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2014 9:39 am
by MisterPerson
How about we stop getting in a pissing contest and get back to talking about the lizards? And also let's all agree that slippery slope is a poor way to make a case. If your best argument against something is a potential future outcome, that implies you have no real reasoning at all that applies to the here and now.

Re: Lizard species is the worst new feature to be added to t

Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2014 10:46 am
by Scott
I actually like lizards, I don't know why everybody's mad.

Re: Lizard species is the worst new feature to be added to t

Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2014 3:52 pm
by Cipher3
Scott wrote:I actually like lizards, I don't know why everybody's mad.
u wot m8


Why is this thread here then? Why did you make this?

Re: Lizard species is the worst new feature to be added to t

Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2014 4:34 pm
by Ikarrus
Just FYI next time the server updates you'll actually be able to save your species preference.