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somerandomguy wrote:Mechpilot outfit, gives you a device that lets you call in a mech and equipment

somerandomguy wrote:Mechpilot outfit, gives you a device that lets you call in a mech and equipment

Dax Dupont wrote:someone else

Shadowflame909 wrote:So, I've been informed that people have literally been banned over experimenting with in-game features. Ala causing too many explosions messing with gasses and the super matter. If we want people to embrace "Consequences" maybe we should make them less severe? Otherwise, this is the perfect fix. People can test things with other people, get real player vs player practice. Instead of testing them in the game we all take so seriously and getting punished.

Honestly, who the fuck wants a consequence for making the wrong decision anyway. It's why I'm so tense about admin remarks. It's not a VR problem, it's a policy problem! VR is just the real-time solution that adheres and works around the problem. If it gets removed, the "consequences" will still be a problem and still won't be toyed around with!

Grazyn wrote: I burned down toxins the other day because I missed the changelog that said that unwrenching pipes now makes them leak and I wasn't even bwoinked. Are people really getting banned for making mistakes or testing things? If you "experiment" with stuff and end up making accidents and explosions every round then yeah, this is a problem, but VR will only make it worse because now you're guaranteed to be noted or banned if you mess up because "should've tested in VR". The game moments I like the most are when I can teach a new guy how to do things, but with VR they'll have no incentive to since they can just try things on their own with no need to ask anyone.

VR is good as it is, a place to TEST YOUR MIGHT and try stuff and admin-only items that you'll never find in game. Also I'm looking forward to people getting warned for "griefing" in VR or starting an escalation because they spawncamped other players.

Grazyn wrote:Please just leave this tiny itty bit of paranoia in.

Always give your best in VR like it's real and you'll live

Also suit sensors exist

Anonmare wrote:Replace perma with VR sleepers you can't leave without outside assistance, or hacking them ahead of time.

Place prisoners into permanent VR storage, interrogate them in virtual cells, torture them and/or rehabilitate them through remedial programs.

iamgoofball wrote:>add feature so people can test bombs and shit no problem no consequences
>Admins find excuse to ban for it

Amazing work guys

Davidchan wrote:Add a master VR controller or something, like the holodeck that lets you swap or load up mini levels or attempt to restore to defaults if the area gets too fucked (I'm aware on larger maps this would cause severe lag or be outright impossible, but on smaller ones it should be workable. Its the same thing as the thunderdome.)

Allow someone go GM/DM the VR simulator, throw down furniture, snappable architecture and spawn mobs and gear to throw against the VR players or even simulate events like Xenos or being overrun by swarmers in VR. Robustness training begins here.

If the Perma option above is was enacted, GM could use prisoners as NPCs and actors for their minicampaigns.

Boss fight mode where megafauna, end of round events like ascended slings or other stupidly powerful VR entities could be fought with a varying array of gear to the syndicunt uplink items, to NT armory lasers and mechs as the GM/RNJesus allows.

somerandomguy wrote:

Davidchan wrote:Add a master VR controller or something, like the holodeck that lets you swap or load up mini levels or attempt to restore to defaults if the area gets too fucked (I'm aware on larger maps this would cause severe lag or be outright impossible, but on smaller ones it should be workable. Its the same thing as the thunderdome.)

Allow someone go GM/DM the VR simulator, throw down furniture, snappable architecture and spawn mobs and gear to throw against the VR players or even simulate events like Xenos or being overrun by swarmers in VR. Robustness training begins here.

If the Perma option above is was enacted, GM could use prisoners as NPCs and actors for their minicampaigns.

Boss fight mode where megafauna, end of round events like ascended slings or other stupidly powerful VR entities could be fought with a varying array of gear to the syndicunt uplink items, to NT armory lasers and mechs as the GM/RNJesus allows.

>be GM
>traitor in normal round
>spawn instagib rifles and eshields
>spawn telescrolls
>other traitor goes into VR
>teles out
>murders the whole station

Davidchan wrote:

somerandomguy wrote:

Davidchan wrote:Add a master VR controller or something, like the holodeck that lets you swap or load up mini levels or attempt to restore to defaults if the area gets too fucked (I'm aware on larger maps this would cause severe lag or be outright impossible, but on smaller ones it should be workable. Its the same thing as the thunderdome.)

Allow someone go GM/DM the VR simulator, throw down furniture, snappable architecture and spawn mobs and gear to throw against the VR players or even simulate events like Xenos or being overrun by swarmers in VR. Robustness training begins here.

If the Perma option above is was enacted, GM could use prisoners as NPCs and actors for their minicampaigns.

Boss fight mode where megafauna, end of round events like ascended slings or other stupidly powerful VR entities could be fought with a varying array of gear to the syndicunt uplink items, to NT armory lasers and mechs as the GM/RNJesus allows.

>be GM
>traitor in normal round
>spawn instagib rifles and eshields
>spawn telescrolls
>other traitor goes into VR
>teles out
>murders the whole station

If people are able to tele out of VR that's a code end problem. Much like how suicide verbs in VR kill you for real.

Anonmare wrote:Just make VR objects incapable of existing outside of VR like holodeck items/mobs

Anonmare wrote:Make it an area check
Is this place a VR environment? If yes, continue existing. If not, QDEL self.

Anuv wrote:What about a VR lavaland with an armory full of KA mods and plasma cutters/different types of armor and large rooms with single megafauna. Let people practice on them without the risk of dying forever.

Anuv wrote:What about a VR lavaland with an armory full of KA mods and plasma cutters/different types of armor and large rooms with single megafauna. Let people practice on them without the risk of dying forever.