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Re: Remove reagant blob until you can fucking balance proper

Posted: Tue May 05, 2015 6:13 pm
by Wyzack

Bottom post of the previous page:

Lets all take a step back and remember that this is a video game, not some serious bullshit. We are playing this for fun. Are these near unbeatable blebs actually fun for anyone except the people playing the blob? Are they necessary as a roundending event like xenomorphs are intended to be? Should they maybe be shunted to an adminbutton?

Re: Remove reagant blob until you can fucking balance proper

Posted: Tue May 05, 2015 6:44 pm
by Scones
Blob spore is an issue that I might fix during the freeze although it sounds like a pain in the ass. The cloud applies reagents regardless of internals, directly into you.

Anyways blob has a winrate pretty close to 50% so I wouldn't say reagent blobs are fucking absurd, although Morphine/Omnizine are a little too strong for my liking (Same with Explosive Gel)

Re: Remove reagant blob until you can fucking balance proper

Posted: Tue May 05, 2015 7:53 pm
by Arete
Scones wrote:Blob spore is an issue that I might fix during the freeze although it sounds like a pain in the ass. The cloud applies reagents regardless of internals, directly into you.

Anyways blob has a winrate pretty close to 50% so I wouldn't say reagent blobs are fucking absurd, although Morphine/Omnizine are a little too strong for my liking (Same with Explosive Gel)
Keep in mind that "50% winrate" doesn't necessarily mean the same thing as "balanced." To take things to the extreme, if half the reagents were totally overpowered unbeatable bullshit and the other half were utterly useless unwinnable bullshit, the winrate might be 50% but you wouldn't call it "balanced." There should probably be nerfs applied to some reagents and buffs applied to others.

Re: Remove reagant blob until you can fucking balance proper

Posted: Wed May 06, 2015 5:16 am
by Drynwyn
Arete wrote:
Scones wrote:Blob spore is an issue that I might fix during the freeze although it sounds like a pain in the ass. The cloud applies reagents regardless of internals, directly into you.

Anyways blob has a winrate pretty close to 50% so I wouldn't say reagent blobs are fucking absurd, although Morphine/Omnizine are a little too strong for my liking (Same with Explosive Gel)
Keep in mind that "50% winrate" doesn't necessarily mean the same thing as "balanced." To take things to the extreme, if half the reagents were totally overpowered unbeatable bullshit and the other half were utterly useless unwinnable bullshit, the winrate might be 50% but you wouldn't call it "balanced." There should probably be nerfs applied to some reagents and buffs applied to others.
It's also important to watch how round population affects this- before nukeops TC scaling was added, for example, nukeop rounds had close to a 50% win rate- but it wasn't "balanced" because nukeops lost almost all the time at high populations and won almost all the time at lower populations.

Re: Remove reagant blob until you can fucking balance proper

Posted: Wed May 06, 2015 3:31 pm
by iamgoofball
I've got some stuff in the pipelines to work on this Soon(tm).

I should even be able to bypass feature freeze by calling it a fix! :^)

Re: Remove reagant blob until you can fucking balance proper

Posted: Sun May 17, 2015 7:30 pm
by Erbbu
I'd like to see xray laser guns being a bit less effective vs. blobs, so it wouldn't be as binary as "If they crew gets xrays, they win". This would also fix blobs created in the late game standing no chance because the crew already researched xrays.

Re: Remove reagant blob until you can fucking balance proper

Posted: Mon May 18, 2015 1:38 am
by iyaerP
Blobs are bullshit with reagants. I have seen rounds where with morphine, like 3 hits from a blob spore means that someone is in a coma for 30 minutes. That is worse than phazon drunk punches.

Re: Remove reagant blob until you can fucking balance proper

Posted: Mon May 18, 2015 3:01 am
by lumipharon
Drunk punch was great.

>get punched once
>can't walk straight for the rest of the round