/tg/Station 13

When the crew actually gets its shit together at roundstart they will flashbang the blob and then welder whatever remains to death. Blob in high pop is pretty much fucked

I've been pretty critical of current blob and it's a far cry of the unyielding, robust wall of flesh it used to be.

There really ought to be a longer saving grace period between blobs spawning and the biohazard announcement so they actually have a chance to establish themselves before everyone descends upon them with welders, lasers and even fire extinguishers for the poor bastard stuck with Blazing Oil. Or go back to infection Blob so there can be diversity in tactics and keep things fresh.
Allow Blobs to choose their chemicals and remove the superfluous chems: Explosive Lattice, Blazing Oil, Energised Jelly and Reactive Spines. They're too niche/weak to justify keeping on as potential chems and serve only as new player traps.
Remove player-controlled blobs and return them to their former NPC controlled state and return the Split Mind ability. NPC blobbernauts were a legitimate threat as they could easily tank damage and pursued players with unrelenting abandon while the Split Mind ability allowed Blobs to work together better and cover watch other's flanks. An Overmind can only really give one side its undivided attention at any time.

As the resident blob fanboy, blobs are fine. The only thing they really need is a boost to starting resource values, starting with say 50 instead of 0. Currently, if someone finds you by a fluke as soon as you spawn as blob there's really nothing you can do, but having some resources at the start would at least give you a chance to fight back and possibly survive.

blobs are a joke now, the only way blobs win these days are if the crew gives little to no effort into killing it, and even then, it has to spawn in a place where someone wont "Accidentially" fuggkeng find it and then it gets destroyed.

The only cool blob type is the one that can constantly move as one organism.

Give blob goon corpse absorbsion as a power. it gives points and makes someone uncloneable but you cant use them as blob zombies anymore. boom, blobs are a super threat now.

Blob was much better when it was just a pure brute event and "blobbernauts" didn't exist.

You could balance around that blob since welder brigades could be effective as long as they were strategic about their positioning. Now with diagonal attacks, blobbernauts, and several powerful chemicals that 99% of people will never remember - the tactics and win conditions are far more limited and unenjoyable for everyone except the 2-3 people who get the "iwin" guns late in the round. Blob chems also add a huge unnecessary source of variance. Blobs can be laughably easy or depressingly difficult depending on which chems it gets, thats not really a satisfying outcome for either side.

My first attempt at blob was completely wrecked after discovery with a box of flashbangs.

They aren't exactly a scarce resource, and I have no idea what the logic is of blobs being incredibly vulnerable to them.

You should just be given a choice of 3 chems when you first burst, then another 3 when you switch chems. Would make the whole thing more consistent rather than RNG hoping for an OP chem. Blobbernauts should also regen faster, even if the tradeoff is something like less damage/moving slower.

The entire game mode needs to be redesigned a little into something more RTS/Tower Defense-ish.

I never really cared for blob. The last time I played blob it seemed pretty balanced with a lot of back and forth between the crew and blob, but it didn't really seem like anyone was having much fun. Shoot guns, leave to recharge guns, rinse and repeat for a goddamn hour until we killed the core. Replace gun with welder if you are unlucky. This was maybe two and a half months ago so I don't know if it has been nerfed again since then

Professor Hangar wrote:My first attempt at blob was completely wrecked after discovery with a box of flashbangs.

They aren't exactly a scarce resource, and I have no idea what the logic is of blobs being incredibly vulnerable to them.

The crew are also incredibly vulnerable to them, and if you get flashbanged near the blob you're very dead.

Blazing oil is good if you plan on standing i the middle of a plasmafire; last time i won as blob i got blazing oil and plopped down in the toxins storage, giving myself a lot of free time to grow while hell blazed around me, then swapped when people came with the first extinguishers.

A blob random event once happened right as I got a lava staff from a drake, after I rushed up to the station and found the blob I found that the blob got the lucky break of a lifetime because they were a blazing oil blob, so the lava right under it's core didn't hurt it at all.

Eventually the moron changed flavors though, and the lava melted it. Get prank'd nerd

Give blob more starting resources.

Half the problem is blobs getting found within 10 seconds of spawning and never even getting the chance to put down even basic upgrades.

All I can say is
Apply flashbang to blobby face.

Though I get the feeling that a large part of the blob losing power is just that there are more people accustomed to dealing with them.

Usually blobs now get instantly barraged by several emitters and flashbanged to death, while RnD shows up with the xrays 20 minutes in.

Of course you still have the idiots that think burning the blob is a good idea......

CPTANT wrote:Give blob more starting resources.

Half the problem is blobs getting found within 10 seconds of spawning and never even getting the chance to put down even basic upgrades.

Also the announcement happens too soon.
There is just not much fun to be had before the blob is established at all.

I found blob to be unenjoyable since the chemicals were added.

ExcessiveCobblestone wrote:I found blob to be unenjoyable since the chemicals were added.

And some chemicals such as blazing oil mean an outright death sentence for the blob as 1 assistant with a fire extinguisher and water tank can destroy him.

do you guys remember the first few weeks of chemicals where blobs were literally unstoppable

we nerfed it a little too hard

i'll return to my codebabby soon

ShadowDimentio wrote:

Professor Hangar wrote:My first attempt at blob was completely wrecked after discovery with a box of flashbangs.

They aren't exactly a scarce resource, and I have no idea what the logic is of blobs being incredibly vulnerable to them.

The crew are also incredibly vulnerable to them, and if you get flashbanged near the blob you're very dead.

Just toss more flashbangs. Sec gets one for each officer and entire boxes more, and can order them from cargo. And are resistant to their effects. Who cares if an assistant gets devoured?

Isn't it pretty stupid that flashbangs hurt blobs in the first place?

Why would a sprawling terror biomass give a fuck about a large bang and a flash.

CPTANT wrote:Isn't it pretty stupid that flashbangs hurt blobs in the first place?

Why would a sprawling terror biomass give a fuck about a large bang and a flash.

because no one uses it right so it normally isn't an issue.
also because get good???

just pop in toxins lmao the fire protects you

kevinz000 wrote:

CPTANT wrote:Isn't it pretty stupid that flashbangs hurt blobs in the first place?

Why would a sprawling terror biomass give a fuck about a large bang and a flash.

because no one uses it right so it normally isn't an issue.
also because get good???

Not really sure how git gud applies here since I frequently flashbang blobs to death.....

Retire blobs already, its a attrition battle the leads into who can deplete each other's enthusiasm first, also blobbernaughts for stealing ghost & revives whittling down the crew is not intuitive, without constant flow of living people a fair footing blob round can't happen.

blobbernauts were never intended to be played by players, I know, I added them.
their original intention and ability was directly injecting players with a reagent called spore_burning (still in-game but not obtainable) that immediately and painfully ignited the victim, this was to counter the fact that at the time people were regularly obtaining 100% melee resistance, which completely ruined blobs.

though the first version of blobbernauts were OP so they were nerfed, and then some point after chemblob someone made them playable.

What were meant to be dumb brutes that if you tricked them into floating off into space... they'd float if into space, became smart creatures that will exploit the shit out of you because they know how people thing (considering they're people themselves)

tl;dr pls return my npc blobbernaut children (and maybe spore_burning) kthnx

I remember miners with a fully upgraded hardsuit, security jumpsuit, fully augmented limbs and triple-stacked healing viruses being impossible to put down in melee. They literally outhealed double e-sword damage.

actually, in that scenario, atleast for melee, the viruses are unneeded.
just the hardsuit (+goliath plates) + sec jumpsuit + augs was enough for 100% melee immunity.

though the viruses certainly help for non-melee damage.

Remie Richards wrote:blobbernauts were never intended to be played by players, I know, I added them.
their original intention and ability was directly injecting players with a reagent called spore_burning (still in-game but not obtainable) that immediately and painfully ignited the victim, this was to counter the fact that at the time people were regularly obtaining 100% melee resistance, which completely ruined blobs.

though the first version of blobbernauts were OP so they were nerfed, and then some point after chemblob someone made them playable.

What were meant to be dumb brutes that if you tricked them into floating off into space... they'd float if into space, became smart creatures that will exploit the shit out of you because they know how people thing (considering they're people themselves)

tl;dr pls return my npc blobbernaut children (and maybe spore_burning) kthnx

Player controlled blobbernauts are the only counter blob have against emitters though.

Swap core. Eating the emitter. Chemical change.

Return NPC Blobbernauts. Remove chemicals from blob and buff Blob damage to 30 brute per hit. Give them two minutes period of saving grace, or, give them greatly reduced resource costs intiially so they can establish themselves

ShadowDimentio wrote:Swap core. Eating the emitter. Chemical change.

eating the emitter doesn't work since you can place the emitter on the other end of the station.

The only chemical that is beneficial against emitters is replicating foam and what chemical you get is random. So for 40 points you get a 1 in 13 chance of something helpful. Bonus points for rolling one of 3 chemical types that take increased fire damage.

Swapping cores cost a whopping 80 resources and a node while the emitters still shoot the crap out of everything that isn't your core.

I dont see why we don't just weaponise cores enough, buy a tendril that like a baseball bat swats away people in its radius etc.

one time i spawned as a random event blob in toxins, the autogrow automatically hit open a plasma canister then busted a light like 3 secs in

i died