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Trenchcoat labcoat
Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2014 7:23 pm
by ColonicAcid
Pls revert I mean yeah sure it's a new sprite but it's not a labcoat it's a literal trenchcoat and it annoys me because labcoats are thing things not huge great to your knees and out shit goddamn it ;_;
also it makes everything under it darker 4 no raisin.
Re: Trenchcoat labcoat
Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2014 7:31 pm
by Stickymayhem
Actually labcoats in real life go down that far. It's for protecting your regular clothing from chemicals, including your trousers.
I'm neutral on this matter, just sayin.
Re: Trenchcoat labcoat
Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2014 7:36 pm
by ColonicAcid
I know they go that far.
Unfortunately they aren't biohazard suit thick and they don't go out like trenchcoats.
I would literally take off a labcoat if it was that thick and I was using stuff that could stain my clothes idgaf stuff that thick unless i was dealing with like Fluoroantimonic acid. You would never see a labcoat like that.
Re: Trenchcoat labcoat
Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2014 7:56 pm
by Scott
I wear a labcoat daily. They do not go that far.
Re: Trenchcoat labcoat
Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2014 8:05 pm
by Alex Crimson
It probably depends where you work. If you work with chemicals then id imagine lab coats would go down to your knees.
As for the in-game lab coats. Why not just have the ability to toggle them between short/long versions? Then people can wear them however they like.
Re: Trenchcoat labcoat
Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2014 8:11 pm
by Stickymayhem
ColonicAcid wrote:I would literally take off a labcoat if it was that thick and I was using stuff that could stain my clothes idgaf stuff that thick unless i was dealing with like Fluoroantimonic acid. You would never see a labcoat like that.
>Spilling Lexorin on your Levi's
Enjoy your oxyloss scrub
Re: Trenchcoat labcoat
Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2014 8:22 pm
by Saegrimr
Just sayin'
Re: Trenchcoat labcoat
Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2014 8:24 pm
by Remie Richards
I for one like the Long labcoats, Every lab coat I've seen in real life and worn has been of around that length.
Re: Trenchcoat labcoat
Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2014 8:30 pm
by Stickymayhem
Saegrimr wrote:
Just sayin'
representin' da chembruthers
Re: Trenchcoat labcoat
Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2014 8:48 pm
by ColonicAcid
i aint even talking about the length damnit im talking about how generally damn stuffy it feels.
like just get how the old labcoat looked and make it bigger im cool with that but atm it looks like a glorified trench coat.
Re: Trenchcoat labcoat
Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2014 9:55 pm
by cedarbridge
At first I thought I'd been given a hoodless chaplain robe or something. I routinely toss the coat now, which is a shame because the old jacketish coat was actually pretty ok.
Re: Trenchcoat labcoat
Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2014 10:15 pm
by miggles
yeah seriously just readd the old one and make this one optional/whatever
it looks like ass
Re: Trenchcoat labcoat
Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2014 10:56 pm
by Incomptinence
I like it. Maybe keep it for chemists scientists handle less volatiles.
Re: Trenchcoat labcoat
Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2014 11:03 pm
by Cipher3
Probably is when you're wearing it the sprite has some weird fuzzy grey area like a bloody bathrobe.
Re: Trenchcoat labcoat
Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2014 11:10 pm
by Reimoo
It looks like an actual coat instead of that flismy fabric labcoats are really made of.
I think it's because it's not white enough.
Re: Trenchcoat labcoat
Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2014 12:58 am
by Timbrewolf
It's horrid.
I don't know why anyone is debating this when you can just use the powers of the internet and drag up a bunch of images of what actual labcoats look like:
Maybe roughly right around knee length or a little shorter.
The sprite we have in game is almost down to the ankle.
Also it just looks bad.
Re: Trenchcoat labcoat
Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2014 1:30 am
by paprika
Stop saying 'revert or die' holy crap we can make better, more realistic compromises.
Like for example:
And on a human:
The CMO colors are the old CMO labcoat length.
You can see how the new one extends 3 pixels past the length of the old labcoats, so why not compromise and trim them by 1 or 2 pixels lengths instead of a straight revert? A single pixel can make a big difference in this game so yeah.
Re: Trenchcoat labcoat
Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2014 2:24 am
by Lo6a4evskiy
ColonicAcid wrote:I know they go that far.
Unfortunately they aren't biohazard suit thick and they don't go out like trenchcoats.
I would literally take off a labcoat if it was that thick and I was using stuff that could stain my clothes idgaf stuff that thick unless i was dealing with like Fluoroantimonic acid. You would never see a labcoat like that.
Actually labcoats in game have 50 bio armor, which is half the value of space suits and bio suits.
Re: Trenchcoat labcoat
Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2014 3:11 am
by miggles
papooka wrote:words
yeah but what the hell is the point of making a shitty sprite better when we had a good sprite already? just for the sake of not reverting?
Re: Trenchcoat labcoat
Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2014 3:12 am
by paprika
The reason it was merged in the first place because it promised longer labcoats. I think the reason they aren't liked is because they were longer than expected. The labcoats look too short and could use with a bit of lengthening, but just straight up reverting and being all revert-happy instead of making really minor and easy improvements to new sprites is p dumb
Re: Trenchcoat labcoat
Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2014 3:14 am
by Nienhaus
I'll just revert it over the weekend. I'm sorry I made the PR, I thought you guys would like it.
Re: Trenchcoat labcoat
Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2014 3:15 am
by Reimoo
Long labcoats aren't bad, though. I think ankle length labcoats are better reserved for scientists.
Pic related.
Re: Trenchcoat labcoat
Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2014 3:17 am
by miggles
thats the kind of labcoat a mad scientist would wear, not an actual scientist
Re: Trenchcoat labcoat
Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2014 3:21 am
by Reimoo
Yeah, and?
Re: Trenchcoat labcoat
Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2014 3:59 am
by paprika
miggles wrote:thats the kind of labcoat a mad scientist would wear, not an actual scientist
There's a difference in ss13?
I think knee length is fine for doctors imo. Just raise the labcoat 2 pixels.
Re: Trenchcoat labcoat
Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2014 4:02 am
by Incomptinence
How about having disposable lab coats as an option. Shroud like trashy things that would show the colours of the clothes beneath.
Re: Trenchcoat labcoat
Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2014 4:55 am
by Lo6a4evskiy
Why not have both?
Re: Trenchcoat labcoat
Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2014 6:11 am
by cedarbridge
Knee length is perfectly fine. We don't need to look like this guy minus the cool sword.
Re: Trenchcoat labcoat
Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2014 8:24 pm
by Nienhaus
Re: Trenchcoat labcoat
Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2014 10:18 pm
by Scott
Do them like this.
Re: Trenchcoat labcoat
Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 7:10 am
by Incomptinence
Make there be several varieties of lab coat length. Make the coloured shoulders an accessory, done.
Re: Trenchcoat labcoat
Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 9:51 am
by Lo6a4evskiy
Accessories should be rewritten to allow for multiple. Inability to award medals to officers is a pain. Or to award multiple medals.
Re: Trenchcoat labcoat
Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 3:19 pm
by Reimoo
https://github.com/tgstation/-tg-station/pull/5131
Comparing Neinhaus's sprites with the old ones and you can see there is a clear improvement. The length just needed to be shortened.
Re: Trenchcoat labcoat
Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 6:03 pm
by cedarbridge
The kinda harsh shading around the edges still makes them look puffy and weird but this is definitely an improvement over the current bathrobes.
Re: Trenchcoat labcoat
Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 7:46 pm
by ColonicAcid
>i never complained about the length
>the bit i did complain about, the way it makes everything under it mysteriously darker for no reason and how outwards and trenchcoaty it looks like hasn't been addressed
quality feedback.
Re: Trenchcoat labcoat
Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 2:53 am
by ThatSlyFox
Alex Crimson wrote:
As for the in-game lab coats. Why not just have the ability to toggle them between short/long versions? Then people can wear them however they like.
Re: Trenchcoat labcoat
Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 4:59 am
by miggles
no, there really isnt
the new labcoats are dark and have way too many unnecessary shades. there's too much attempt for detail in such a tiny sprite that it looks like a mess. the old sprite was both simple and good looking, the new one makes me not want to work in science so i dont have to look at them.
