Pirates Cargo Pad.

[Shadowflame909]

If you wanna know if this is Im Dead. Yes, it is. But I think this is a really lame I'm Dead, that shouldn't happen. Otherwise I wouldn't be trying to incite a thread over this.

>We kill pirates.

>Person presses the cargo pad im standing on.

>Never see it used, so dont think much of it.

>IT LITERALLY DELETES ME AND ALL THE GEAR I'VE BEEN WORKING FOR THE ENTIRE ROUND

That is the worst feeling, all your effort gone without a satisfying conclusion. Just DELETED.

Why do the pirates even have an objective to literally DELETE crew.


The farthest we should go is gibbing. Deleting people is literally saved for an admin only antag, that's there to remove adolf hitler. An antag that got removed from rotation because deleting is unfun, and does not make for good gameplay.


Another antagonist has a hostage button. But instead of deleting crew, it sends them to the space ninja den.

Would you be down for this Delete button actually turning into a real transfer button, that doesn't delete people?

[confused rock]

no because the cremator exists

[Shadowflame909]

That leaves ash at least.

u know what you can do with ash?

Well not a whole lot, but the evidence is there.

[confused rock]

space cleaner
xeno vore
chasms
literally leave it in a locked personal locker in dorms and nobody will ever find it

[4dplanner]

Because what everyone says after being sent to ninja jail is "wow, what an interesting mechanic".

[Daxxed]

Raiding pirates and not destroying their means of getting credits smh.
Played yourself

[Shadowflame909]

space cleaner

>You can delete someone with space cleaner.

I think you accidentally Revealed a secret mechanic.

Because what everyone says after being sent to ninja jail is "wow, what an interesting mechanic".

At least it's better than being instant deleted.

Also if you were an antagonist, it automatically checks off "Escaping alive" so it's not bad at all.

Also to address the rest of rocks argument

>Chasms.

Lavaland only. In exchange for all those rewards, one of the risks is deletion. I think it's fair when more then a handful of the items on Lavaland will literally grant antag status.

>Xenomorphs.

A round-ender on the same level as the singularity. They're meant to be better than everything.

Also, it has another feature, to vent-crawl with your target.

I also think canonically, since Xenomorphs are supposed to be the most superior genetic predator. Then them having gibbers for stomachs, would, in fact, make them a sentient weakness to Lings.

[terranaut]

space cleaner

wait, what

[teepeepee]

I think he meant you can just clean away the ashes from the cremator to answer his "at least it leaves evidence" argument

[cedarbridge]

Because what everyone says after being sent to ninja jail is "wow, what an interesting mechanic".

At least it's better than being instant deleted.

How?

[confused rock]

I think getting bones by space pirates is also a round ender

Why am I arguing with shadowflame he’s just like me he’ll do anything under the sun to avoid losing the argument even if he contradicts himself in the process

[Dr_bee]

seems more like an coding oversight than an actual mechanic. I mean the cargo shuttle doesnt allow organics on it, why should a pirate cargo pad? It is supposed to send things to the pirate's base, not murder them.

[cedarbridge]

seems more like an coding oversight than an actual mechanic. I mean the cargo shuttle doesnt allow organics on it, why should a pirate cargo pad? It is supposed to send things to the pirate's base, not murder them.

Its really the first time I've heard of a body being deleted by the pad anyway. The normal function is you put a corpse on it and it rips all of the sellable loot off the body.

[Shadowflame909]

Yeah ok. Agree to disagree. My bias comes from the fact that I think the space net is the best tool in the Ninja's set, and I also think deletion with no tell tale signs is horrible as an objective.


Apparently when I asked about it Dr. Bee. The people they take as hostages (Delete) gets added to the pirates round end total.

They get a delete button and are encouraged to use it.

[py01]

Selling people was an intended mechanic, you get a 1000 credit bonus for "selling a hostage"

[Tlaltecuhtli]

being killed by pirates isnt that easy and dying is part of the game

[Shadowflame909]

I didn't get killed by a pirate. I got deleted accidentally because no one knew pirates have a delete pad.

The "hostage" objective is nearly the same as the space Ninja's. Except you actually get sent somewhere

[imsxz]

pirate pad only deletes people if they're alive.

to get permakilled while alive you either need to 1) be as dumb as shadowflame or 2) be subdued by pirates and good as dead anyways, at which point they can behead you and space the brain or whatever.

[Yakumo_Chen]

Ninja space net isn't even that good, you can break it yourself so the only people it gets are those dumb enough to not bash out or those who are good as dead anyhow

[Shadowflame909]

Ninja space net isn't even that good, you can break it yourself so the only people it gets are those dumb enough to not bash out or those who are good as dead anyhow

Stun Gloves.

[confused rock]

Considering that shadowflame is likely the only person to die to this in the history of ever I think this will take more time to fix than time will be lost due to accidents from this pad anyways

[Shadowflame909]

If you want something to fix that no one is worrying about.

Clown Shuttles chasms are broken

Revenant can be damaged while Intangible

Morph's keep the massive speed debuff now even while transformed.

Side antags are fucked

[Qbmax32]

sounds like ur just bad kiddo

[Cobby]

This is just a reflavored chasms argument, after the first time you know it deletes you so don't stand on it ever again.

[Shadowflame909]

That is an option. I just think that if we have a map to send hostages. Why not use it more?

[cedarbridge]

That is an option. I just think that if we have a map to send hostages. Why not use it more?

Because one lame suicide den is enough.

[Shadowflame909]

Well if so many pepol are against it. Then there's no reason to argue.

[BeeSting12]

Because what everyone says after being sent to ninja jail is "wow, what an interesting mechanic".

At least it's better than being instant deleted.

At least instant deletion saves me the effort of typing in suicide enter.

[Shadowflame909]

>When you turn out to be the only one who actually likes the space ninja den.

-Muh chill botany and Chef experience + VR and sword fights?


also Free "escape alive" objective complete!?!?

[MisterPerson]

also Free "escape alive" objective complete!?!?

I'd rather hang out in deadchat than sit around for 10-20 minutes just so some text becomes green instead of red.

[Shadowflame909]

>dont like vr.

>don't like being a bartender to everyone else who becomes a hostage

>Don't like doing botany in the ninja den

>Don't like a "free" escape alive, with less risk of dying. Unless a traitor gets taken hostage and feels like murderboning in the ninja den.

I think its fun, but it seems like everyone else disagrees.

We'll see how the populous feels when "Wizard VR" becomes a thing.

[skoglol]

It also deletes pirates

[Daxxed]

Feature, for when those last credits are really needed to greentext

[Yakumo_Chen]

Ninja space net isn't even that good, you can break it yourself so the only people it gets are those dumb enough to not bash out or those who are good as dead anyhow

Stun Gloves.

I direct you to the second half of my post

[oranges]

[Ispiria]

I'm going to suggest maybe a lore-related reason for teleporting people to the ninja den instead of just deleting them? Maybe not the best reason but better than nothing.

The purpose of the pirate pad working on live people is that the pirates, a faction of independents making money through theft and kidnap, are kidnapping crewmen and ransoming them back to their respective employers. That being the case, the people kidnapped would be kept alive until such time as the random is paid, yes?

An antagonist with a "escape on the shuttle" objective would obviously fail if they were imprisoned in pirate jail, but for example a wizard or survivalist, anyone with a "survive until the end" objective ought to still get their green, since they are in fact alive, but imprisoned.

Also and this is more just a meme, but pirates and ninjas! They're already two of the most awesome historical archetypes, may as well share a prison.

[cedarbridge]

Also and this is more just a meme, but pirates and ninjas! They're already two of the most awesome historical archetypes, may as well share a prison.

Yeah, but in opposition.