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Is magical future stuff not the memo anymore?

PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2020 12:53 am
by Shadowflame909
General question to coders, maintainers, mappers, whoever else is lurking here.

So far, I've been here long enough to experience a shift from the game design.

It's become less of a wacky shift with magic, revival, and breaking the limits of a mentally stable person.

I mean look at this:
-Fat nerds cant eat monkeys anymore.
-Nuka Cola no longer gives you hyperspeed
-Cloning gone
-Xenobio's OP gold slime stuff is gutted and replaced
-Gangs is gone
-Drones are gone.
-You gotta pay for stuff now

Now, I'm not saying all of this is mutually exclusive. As all of these are definitively made by different people with different visions.

What I am asking though, is the future memo to add an underlying shady vibe to nanotransen?

It's certainly felt more like "Bare-Minimum scraps given to a bunch of clones" lately. Instead of "Pinnacle of Technology dream station that goes wrong"

I guess I'm also saying is I miss OP stuff.

Thoughts on this? Do I have a point? Am I just a zoomer who needs to go to hippie for my "lolz fun"?

Edit: Also remember when robotics had Iron-Man style flight suits? That was cool.

Re: Is magical future stuff not the memo anymore?

PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2020 12:58 am
by Anonmare
I miss the retro-future stuff

Re: Is magical future stuff not the memo anymore?

PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2020 1:34 am
by Super Aggro Crag
soon it will be like CDDA and we'll have to micromanage our skin moisture or get chapped lips and get a mood debuff that makes you unable to walk without weeping

Re: Is magical future stuff not the memo anymore?

PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2020 2:40 am
by PKPenguin321
Anonmare wrote:I miss the retro-future stuff

Im still sad about https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/pull/42855

Re: Is magical future stuff not the memo anymore?

PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2020 3:13 am
by Farquaar
PKPenguin321 wrote:
Anonmare wrote:I miss the retro-future stuff

Im still sad about https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/pull/42855

This brings a tear to my eye as well.

Also, I’m sad about what jumpskirts did to the game’s aesthetic. Went from Star Trek to anime really quickly.

Re: Is magical future stuff not the memo anymore?

PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2020 3:18 am
by NoxVS
Farquaar wrote:
PKPenguin321 wrote:
Anonmare wrote:I miss the retro-future stuff

Im still sad about https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/pull/42855

This brings a tear to my eye as well.

Also, I’m sad about what jumpskirts did to the game’s aesthetic. Went from Star Trek to anime really quickly.

>Went
laughs in catgirl

Re: Is magical future stuff not the memo anymore?

PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2020 6:59 am
by cacogen
i agree that there's been a trend away from the goon end of the spectrum towards the bay one. neither extreme is good. but there's also the constant ebb and flow of new content followed by nerfs

>Fat nerds cant eat monkeys anymore.
this was part of a dumb vore panic and shouldn't have happened

>Nuka Cola no longer gives you hyperspeed
this was part of wesoda's thing to nerf things that make you go fast. pink stabilised is now not fun. makes sense for balance

>Cloning gone
the silent cartographers' plot to turn us into bay. when razharas made machines buildable he stealthnerfed cloning. paprika introduced the defib because it was agonising. we'll end up with stopgap measures to compensate for this too

>Xenobio's OP gold slime stuff is gutted and replaced
all i've seen is that cobby removed the resurrection bolt from magicarp. makes sense in the context of the medical changes

>Gangs is gone
wasn't around for that, they also gimped clock cult and then cut it
why

>Drones are gone
some people abused them so they removed them from the main station. dumb

>You gotta pay for stuff now
currency with leverage has always appealed to me. it means you can pay people to do things and buy cool shit irrespective of access. but everyone that isn't an assistant still gets way too much to lock the valuables behind it (at a reasonable price)

Re: Is magical future stuff not the memo anymore?

PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2020 7:05 am
by Shadowflame909
>Xenobio's OP gold slime stuff is gutted and replaced
all i've seen is that cobby removed the resurrection bolt from magicarp. makes sense in the context of the medical changes



We used to have weeping angels, Changeling babies, and magicarps with bolt of death

Re: Is magical future stuff not the memo anymore?

PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2020 7:15 am
by cacogen
Oh, I see. I was gone for awhile

Re: Is magical future stuff not the memo anymore?

PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2020 7:16 am
by oranges
you guys are the literal definition of ss13 boomers

Re: Is magical future stuff not the memo anymore?

PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2020 7:17 am
by cacogen
what is the compulsion to redo everything from the ground up, while simultaneously nerfing everything into the ground

Re: Is magical future stuff not the memo anymore?

PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2020 7:18 am
by OFQ
So like, when the first season of 2020 pro league starts?

Re: Is magical future stuff not the memo anymore?

PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2020 7:21 am
by oranges
cacogen wrote:what is the compulsion to redo everything from the ground up, while simultaneously nerfing everything into the ground

https://www.thedailypositive.com/12-rea ... ce-change/

Re: Is magical future stuff not the memo anymore?

PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2020 7:22 am
by OFQ
oranges wrote:
cacogen wrote:what is the compulsion to redo everything from the ground up, while simultaneously nerfing everything into the ground

https://www.thedailypositive.com/12-rea ... ce-change/


Ha! I expected the link to Communist manifesto.

Re: Is magical future stuff not the memo anymore?

PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2020 7:22 am
by oranges
OFQ wrote:
oranges wrote:
cacogen wrote:what is the compulsion to redo everything from the ground up, while simultaneously nerfing everything into the ground

https://www.thedailypositive.com/12-rea ... ce-change/


Ha! I expected the link to Communist manifesto.

https://www.oranges.net.nz/~oranges/new_changelog.html

Re: Is magical future stuff not the memo anymore?

PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2020 7:37 am
by cacogen
if you want to leave an HG-style hole in the server i think you made your mark already

Re: Is magical future stuff not the memo anymore?

PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2020 8:05 am
by oranges
cacogen wrote:if you want to leave an HG-style hole in the server i think you made your mark already

Image

Re: Is magical future stuff not the memo anymore?

PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2020 8:16 am
by NoxVS
Shadowflame909 wrote:
>Xenobio's OP gold slime stuff is gutted and replaced
all i've seen is that cobby removed the resurrection bolt from magicarp. makes sense in the context of the medical changes



We used to have weeping angels, Changeling babies, and magicarps with bolt of death

"what do you mean OP antag content shouldnt be available to a single job, ORANGE MAN BAD"

Re: Is magical future stuff not the memo anymore?

PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2020 8:17 am
by Super Aggro Crag
Farquaar wrote:
PKPenguin321 wrote:
Anonmare wrote:I miss the retro-future stuff

Im still sad about https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/pull/42855

This brings a tear to my eye as well.

Also, I’m sad about what jumpskirts did to the game’s aesthetic. Went from Star Trek to anime really quickly.
there were skirt uniforms on trek. Hell, men wore them in early episodes of TNG.

Re: Is magical future stuff not the memo anymore?

PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2020 8:23 am
by cacogen
NoxVS wrote:ORANGE MAN BAD

i was talking about this stuff

Re: Is magical future stuff not the memo anymore?

PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2020 8:26 am
by oranges
Super Aggro Crag wrote:
Farquaar wrote:
PKPenguin321 wrote:
Anonmare wrote:I miss the retro-future stuff

Im still sad about https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/pull/42855

This brings a tear to my eye as well.

Also, I’m sad about what jumpskirts did to the game’s aesthetic. Went from Star Trek to anime really quickly.
there were skirt uniforms on trek. Hell, men wore them in early episodes of TNG.

Farquaar is sadly brain damaged.

Re: Is magical future stuff not the memo anymore?

PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2020 2:20 pm
by Farquaar
Super Aggro Crag wrote:
Farquaar wrote:
PKPenguin321 wrote:
Anonmare wrote:I miss the retro-future stuff

Im still sad about https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/pull/42855

This brings a tear to my eye as well.

Also, I’m sad about what jumpskirts did to the game’s aesthetic. Went from Star Trek to anime really quickly.
there were skirt uniforms on trek. Hell, men wore them in early episodes of TNG.

They got rid of them after the first couple of episodes because they looked stupid. And this is coming from someone who didn’t mind clean-shaven Riker.

oranges wrote:Farquaar is sadly brain damaged.

What’s your ideal aesthetic for SS13?

Re: Is magical future stuff not the memo anymore?

PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2020 4:40 pm
by Super Aggro Crag
Isnt it weird how oranges can make personal attacks on people in the coding feedback forum but anyone else would get put on post approval for calling people a broke brain retardanaut?

Re: Is magical future stuff not the memo anymore?

PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2020 4:44 pm
by OFQ
Calling people "dent skulls" is RP and should be fine

Re: Is magical future stuff not the memo anymore?

PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2020 5:29 pm
by Shadowflame909
NoxVS wrote:"what do you mean OP antag content shouldnt be available to a single job, ORANGE MAN BAD"


"Crewmembers getting OP end-game content? ONLY ANTAGS ARE ALLOWED TO BE STRONG SHADOWFLAME!1!!!! EVERY CREW ITEM MUST COME WITH A DOWNSIDE"

Re: Is magical future stuff not the memo anymore?

PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2020 6:20 pm
by oranges
Super Aggro Crag wrote:Isnt it weird how oranges can make personal attacks on people in the coding feedback forum but anyone else would get put on post approval for calling people a broke brain retardanaut?

do you want to end up on post approval?

Re: Is magical future stuff not the memo anymore?

PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2020 6:21 pm
by oranges
Farquaar wrote:
Super Aggro Crag wrote:
Farquaar wrote:
PKPenguin321 wrote:
Anonmare wrote:I miss the retro-future stuff

Im still sad about https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/pull/42855

This brings a tear to my eye as well.

Also, I’m sad about what jumpskirts did to the game’s aesthetic. Went from Star Trek to anime really quickly.
there were skirt uniforms on trek. Hell, men wore them in early episodes of TNG.

They got rid of them after the first couple of episodes because they looked stupid. And this is coming from someone who didn’t mind clean-shaven Riker.

oranges wrote:Farquaar is sadly brain damaged.

What’s your ideal aesthetic for SS13?

Synthwave and Wes Anderson

Re: Is magical future stuff not the memo anymore?

PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2020 6:42 pm
by Super Aggro Crag
oranges wrote:
Super Aggro Crag wrote:Isnt it weird how oranges can make personal attacks on people in the coding feedback forum but anyone else would get put on post approval for calling people a broke brain retardanaut?

do you want to end up on post approval?

are you threatening me?

Re: Is magical future stuff not the memo anymore?

PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2020 6:55 pm
by oranges
yes

Re: Is magical future stuff not the memo anymore?

PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2020 8:01 pm
by Super Aggro Crag
that's harassment buddy

Re: Is magical future stuff not the memo anymore?

PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2020 8:16 pm
by Cobby
you can have future stuff that is mindful of the game balance.

Re: Is magical future stuff not the memo anymore?

PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2020 8:46 pm
by Qbopper
Farquaar wrote:
PKPenguin321 wrote:
Anonmare wrote:I miss the retro-future stuff

Im still sad about https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/pull/42855

This brings a tear to my eye as well.

Also, I’m sad about what jumpskirts did to the game’s aesthetic. Went from Star Trek to anime really quickly.


extremely fucking dumb post

Re: Is magical future stuff not the memo anymore?

PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2020 10:32 pm
by Farquaar
Qbopper wrote:
Farquaar wrote:This brings a tear to my eye as well.

Also, I’m sad about what jumpskirts did to the game’s aesthetic. Went from Star Trek to anime really quickly.


extremely fucking dumb post

You're free to disagree with me, but at least be constructive.

oranges wrote:
Farquaar wrote:What’s your ideal aesthetic for SS13?

Synthwave and Wes Anderson

At risk of missing obvious sarcasm, could you elaborate?

Re: Is magical future stuff not the memo anymore?

PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2020 10:35 pm
by Shadowflame909
Cobby wrote:you can have future stuff that is mindful of the game balance.


As the villain of the incredibles said. If everyone is super. No one is.

We gotta give the janitor a cleaning grenade launcher now now now now

Re: Is magical future stuff not the memo anymore?

PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2020 10:36 pm
by bandit
if anything the dumb meme-y magical shit came after the futuristic space station run by shady corporation shit

get your fantasy out of my sci-fi

Re: Is magical future stuff not the memo anymore?

PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2020 11:02 pm
by Shadowflame909
bandit wrote:if anything the dumb meme-y magical shit came after the futuristic space station run by shady corporation shit

get your fantasy out of my sci-fi


There's no point in simulating the dystopian future we're currently hurling towards

We gotta be happier then that

Re: Is magical future stuff not the memo anymore?

PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2020 11:56 pm
by oranges
Farquaar wrote:
Qbopper wrote:
Farquaar wrote:This brings a tear to my eye as well.

Also, I’m sad about what jumpskirts did to the game’s aesthetic. Went from Star Trek to anime really quickly.


extremely fucking dumb post

You're free to disagree with me, but at least be constructive.

oranges wrote:
Farquaar wrote:What’s your ideal aesthetic for SS13?

Synthwave and Wes Anderson

At risk of missing obvious sarcasm, could you elaborate?




if you want to see them blended to perfection, go watch thor ragnarok (specifically on sakaar)

Re: Is magical future stuff not the memo anymore?

PostPosted: Sun Feb 02, 2020 2:34 am
by cacogen
oh he wasn't joking

Re: Is magical future stuff not the memo anymore?

PostPosted: Sun Feb 02, 2020 4:04 am
by PKPenguin321
oranges wrote:
Super Aggro Crag wrote:Isnt it weird how oranges can make personal attacks on people in the coding feedback forum but anyone else would get put on post approval for calling people a broke brain retardanaut?

do you want to end up on post approval?

i know this is bants but im p sure this is mod abuse so dont

Re: Is magical future stuff not the memo anymore?

PostPosted: Sun Feb 02, 2020 4:56 am
by OFQ
Are you threatening him :?

Re: Is magical future stuff not the memo anymore?

PostPosted: Sun Feb 02, 2020 5:56 am
by oranges
PKPenguin321 wrote:
oranges wrote:
Super Aggro Crag wrote:Isnt it weird how oranges can make personal attacks on people in the coding feedback forum but anyone else would get put on post approval for calling people a broke brain retardanaut?

do you want to end up on post approval?

i know this is bants but im p sure this is mod abuse so dont

what are you gonna do bitch ass? This is my kingdom

Re: Is magical future stuff not the memo anymore?

PostPosted: Sun Feb 02, 2020 6:02 am
by cacogen
the moonrise kingdom

Re: Is magical future stuff not the memo anymore?

PostPosted: Sun Feb 02, 2020 6:02 am
by PKPenguin321
oranges wrote:
PKPenguin321 wrote:
oranges wrote:
Super Aggro Crag wrote:Isnt it weird how oranges can make personal attacks on people in the coding feedback forum but anyone else would get put on post approval for calling people a broke brain retardanaut?

do you want to end up on post approval?

i know this is bants but im p sure this is mod abuse so dont

what are you gonna do bitch ass? This is my kingdom

probably perma forum ban you until mso gets here considering im global

Re: Is magical future stuff not the memo anymore?

PostPosted: Sun Feb 02, 2020 6:36 am
by Qbopper
Farquaar wrote:
Qbopper wrote:
Farquaar wrote:This brings a tear to my eye as well.

Also, I’m sad about what jumpskirts did to the game’s aesthetic. Went from Star Trek to anime really quickly.


extremely fucking dumb post

You're free to disagree with me, but at least be constructive.


it's hard to be constructive when your opinion is literally "this piece of clothing makes the game's aesthetic go from star trek to literal anime"

how the fuck can anyone take this take seriously

Re: Is magical future stuff not the memo anymore?

PostPosted: Sun Feb 02, 2020 6:43 am
by OFQ

Re: Is magical future stuff not the memo anymore?

PostPosted: Sun Feb 02, 2020 9:55 am
by Farquaar
Qbopper wrote:
Farquaar wrote:
Qbopper wrote:
Farquaar wrote:This brings a tear to my eye as well.

Also, I’m sad about what jumpskirts did to the game’s aesthetic. Went from Star Trek to anime really quickly.


extremely fucking dumb post

You're free to disagree with me, but at least be constructive.


it's hard to be constructive when your opinion is literally "this piece of clothing makes the game's aesthetic go from star trek to literal anime"

how the fuck can anyone take this take seriously

It's bizarre that you can't comprehend why somebody might disagree with you on whether skirted sailor outfits should be standard uniforms in SS13.

Re: Is magical future stuff not the memo anymore?

PostPosted: Sun Feb 02, 2020 11:02 am
by cacogen
do not argue about jumpskirts - oscar wilde

Re: Is magical future stuff not the memo anymore?

PostPosted: Sun Feb 02, 2020 4:00 pm
by confused rock
Ahh yes, the horrible gutting of the magical future stuff known as "gangsters" and "not needing money"
Lavaland is the most bullshit magical future shit ever and look at that, we keep getting it.

Re: Is magical future stuff not the memo anymore?

PostPosted: Sun Feb 02, 2020 5:23 pm
by Super Aggro Crag
Farquaar wrote:
Qbopper wrote:
Farquaar wrote:
Qbopper wrote:
Farquaar wrote:This brings a tear to my eye as well.

Also, I’m sad about what jumpskirts did to the game’s aesthetic. Went from Star Trek to anime really quickly.


extremely fucking dumb post

You're free to disagree with me, but at least be constructive.


it's hard to be constructive when your opinion is literally "this piece of clothing makes the game's aesthetic go from star trek to literal anime"

how the fuck can anyone take this take seriously

It's bizarre that you can't comprehend why somebody might disagree with you on whether skirted sailor outfits should be standard uniforms in SS13.

they wore skirts in star trek

Re: Is magical future stuff not the memo anymore?

PostPosted: Sun Feb 02, 2020 5:56 pm
by Farquaar
Super Aggro Crag wrote:they wore skirts in star trek

1. They were dresses/minidresses, not skirts
2. They got rid of them because they looked stupid, and the actresses were clearly uncomfortable wearing them.