/tg/Station 13

I see no practical purpose for this item. It fills the belt slot, adding nothing of value, making you need to click more to get your revolver out.

So, it's for fashion and style? I can get behind that, I was the proponent of giving Detective his own waistcoat after all. But it doesn't work too. If you wear coat, the holster is carried over the coat (holster sprite is drawn on the coat), which looks stupid and impractical. And if it would be hidden under coat, it would make the item even less relevant.

So, let's wear it without coat. Just on shirt, or on shirt with waistcoat. It looks neat, I like it. But you sacrifice the protection of the coat for purely visual benefit, and lack of armor slot.

So my idea to make holster better is moving it to exosuit slot. That would give two additional slots, one in holster, for gun, and one in armor slot; for speedloader or flashlight or cuffs or anything. More space (and more style) for less protection. Fair tradeoff, since detective is meant to be investigator primarily.

I would roll like this.

I always thought the detective's gun coud be put in the suit slot anyway.

It can be put in suit slot, that's how I carry it. But when shoulder holster is added, we might as well improve it, right?

If you're forced to wear the holster in the exosuit slot instead of the coat that the gun fits on, anyway, no one will use the holster.

I still say, make it a clip-on, Bay-style.

Just let it use the belt slot in addition to the suit slot.

This is really just more evidence that belts should not be outside suits because of how retarded it looks

Are you talking only about sprite visibility, or hiding them all the way under jumpsuit, like exosuit does?

I agree with Pap on this one, it doesn't make much sense anyways and looks pretty dumb. The problem with allowing it to clip to the jumpsuit like bay does is that it is the only item that can add storage to your jumpsuit and is therefore pretty snowflakey, likely from a code standpoint as well.

paprika wrote:This is really just more evidence that belts should not be outside suits because of how retarded it looks

The problem comes when you have belts that have a reason to be outside of or over a given suit. Engineering rig suits would need the belt outside of the suit because there's no reasonable way to expect an engineer to get to the tools otherwise, for example.

Who really cares when it looks better anyway?

Technically hardsuits hide your belt slot anyway. Try to strip the belt off someone who is wearing a hardsuit -- IIRC you can't. No reason for it to be outside of the hardsuit. Yes, you can still access your tools even if it's inside your hardsuit, but like, who cares about things like that when it looks more visually appealing and less mindfuck since you can't strip a belt off of someone with a hardsuit?

At the very least this a couple of slots added to it for carrying small items like speedloaders, cigs, and zippo, maybe even pepper spray.

Just make it a holster with a belt